Looking ahead to the 2023 Draft

Oliver Nkamhoua with some daggers!

Duke is finished! They went out with a whimper honestly, very sloppy performance for such a high stakes game
Nkamhoua might've just got himself drafted with this game. He's only a consistent jump shot away from being an NBA player. Scored 17 out of Tennessee's last 19 points.. wow.
 
Despite it being close all thru the game this is a tale of 2 halves for Cason Wallace, he played more like a 2nd rd pick in the first half and in this 2nd half he's playing like a lotto pick for sure. Even with all the other stuff going wrong, if he showed up like this in the first half they win this game.

Wallace deserves to play around NBA talent, not this team, which clouds my read on his outlook a bit, I figure around better talent he'll be able to play towards his strengths even more, wanna believe hes gonna be a better NBA player than he was college and hope he lands somewhere interesting. will be keeping tabs on him for sure. He's got heart, hes a fighter, good luck to him.

Tshiebwe is G-League bound and I wish him all the luck there too.

I hope were seeing the end of this "x-fer era" at UK, this is not the path to the championship its the path to mediocrity... Yet again they rely on an older upperclassman xfer SG to shoot 3's, and that player lays brick after brick after brick in the big games. Watching this makes me feel like "we have lost the way" and "how did it come to this?" (though whenever UK gets a good SG they usually end up in the first rd rather quick, so thats part of an explaination... Whatever happened to 'we dont recruit, we reload.'?)

As a UK fan, a fan of Coach Cal's teams in general dating back to the Memphis days, I just dont like losing like this, I much prefer to lose with a team full of talented freshman, its way more graceful, though I know thats not a concern of most fans.. Next years squad will be a breath of fresh air, glad this chapter is over.

3/19 from 3, 16 turnovers... they deserve this loss.. wild they could keep it this close while playing so poorly.

ANTONIO REEVES IS 0/14... LIKE WTF IS THIS crap.. I turned this game off, n I'm glad I did. N I never do that, but it's like I dont wanna win like this and I also dont wanna lose like this, I've been mentally checked out from this team for a while now, pains me to watch this ragtag bunch get all the minutes while Ugonna Onyenso sits on the bench.

Keyonte Johnson didnt even play well.. hope i dont sound bitter cuz thats not my intent, but i do think its worth mentioning.

The Bluebloods continue to fall.. sure does seem like were in the era of 'the newbloods'..

Kind of hilarious to see UK get bodied by a 5'8 PG, good for Marquis Nowell, type of game you tell the grandkids about.
 
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Very interested to see what Mady Sissoko on MSU can do vs Marquette, figures he's gonna give them matchup trouble on both sides of the ball and the glass.

Absolutely cant wait to see St Marys vs UConn and Creighton vs Baylor. Its a great day to be a basketball fan.
 
Despite it being close all thru the game this is a tale of 2 halves for Cason Wallace, he played more like a 2nd rd pick in the first half and in this 2nd half he's playing like a lotto pick for sure. Even with all the other stuff going wrong, if he showed up like this in the first half they win this game.

Wallace deserves to play around NBA talent, not this team, which clouds my read on his outlook a bit, I figure around better talent he'll be able to play towards his strengths even more, wanna believe hes gonna be a better NBA player than he was college and hope he lands somewhere interesting. will be keeping tabs on him for sure. He's got heart, hes a fighter, good luck to him.

Tshiebwe is G-League bound and I wish him all the luck there too.

I hope were seeing the end of this "x-fer era" at UK, this is not the path to the championship its the path to mediocrity... Yet again they rely on an older upperclassman xfer SG to shoot 3's, and that player lays brick after brick after brick in the big games. Watching this makes me feel like "we have lost the way" and "how did it come to this?" (though whenever UK gets a good SG they usually end up in the first rd rather quick, so thats part of an explaination... Whatever happened to 'we dont recruit, we reload.'?)

As a UK fan, a fan of Coach Cal's teams in general dating back to the Memphis days, I just dont like losing like this, I much prefer to lose with a team full of talented freshman, its way more graceful, though I know thats not a concern of most fans.. Next years squad will be a breath of fresh air, glad this chapter is over.

3/19 from 3, 16 turnovers... they deserve this loss.. wild they could keep it this close while playing so poorly.

ANTONIO REEVES IS 0/14... LIKE WTF IS THIS crap.. I turned this game off, n I'm glad I did. N I never do that, but it's like I dont wanna win like this and I also dont wanna lose like this, I've been mentally checked out from this team for a while now, pains me to watch this ragtag bunch get all the minutes while Ugonna Onyenso sits on the bench.

Keyonte Johnson didnt even play well.. hope i dont sound bitter cuz thats not my intent, but i do think its worth mentioning.

The Bluebloods continue to fall.. sure does seem like were in the era of 'the newbloods'..

Kind of hilarious to see UK get bodied by a 5'8 PG, good for Marquis Nowell, type of game you tell the grandkids about.
I love Wallace as a prospect. He plays great defense, shoots well, and can run the point. I think the biggest thing holding him back from being a top pick is that aggressive nature to go take over a game.
 
Coulibaly has shown up in some first round mocks lately. I wonder if he ends up going top 20. Just too much upside there imo to pass up. The competition looks dreadful but he is a smooth operator and has go go gadget arms.
 
Keyonte George had a poor tournament. But unsurprisingly, these games where he looks invisible isn't all that rare. Not the best way to go out. I'm having a hard time of where to put him on my draft board. There were those stretch of games where he looked like a top 5 pick, but when you factor the rest of his games, he looks late lotto/mid-1st rounder.

Scheierman continues to slump with his 3pt shooting. I don't know about that unorthodox shooting motion.. it already dipped his 3pt% by around 11-12% just moving conferences. I feel like he's one of those players who'll instantly become a glue-guy in the NBA OR be out of the league in 2 years. He screams Miami-Heat.

Just checked out ESPN's latest draft order.. wow! Can't believe Givony finally dropped Nick Smith Jr... but all the way to 13! I'm pretty sure he had NSJ in his top 5 while he was injured, so for him to let go the love means he must've got tired of his poor performances too. In his last 3 games, he's: completely shot them-out of the SEC tournament going 6-20. Didn't show up against Illinois in the 1st round of the tournament giving just 6pts 1stl and 2tos.. and now in the 2nd round: 0pts, 1ast, 1reb, and a benching. Despite his poor play, they're in the Sweet 16.


Noah Clowney went from outside the 1st round to #19. He's going to be a fun pick for someone, not sure if it should be us though.

Kris Murray got moved back to #26. I'm not entirely surprised by this. He's an older player and has really struggled with his shot at times this season. The 1st round was no different going just 3-11 from 3pt. When you're trying to project him in the NBA, his best case scenario is probably rookie Keegan.. off-ball role player who can play the 3/4 while hitting 3pt shots at a good clip. 33.5% is a big dip from 38.7% the previous year. I can't believe Kris was considered the better shooter at one point. I think maybe Keegan's shoes were just a bit too big to fill. Would Kris be okay playing back in his brother's shadow? Or would he rather try to make a name for himself out in the league? I would want to consult Keegan about drafting Kris. Would having him on the same team help unlock Keegan's potential? Because if it would.... scrap the entire draft plan, we're drafting Kris. I'm 100% serious about this too. I know they're super close brothers and this was the first time ever that they've played apart.
 
some good points and questions in the above post by 206fan

Whats Keyonte George gonna look like next season, or 2 seasons from now? He'll probably be stronger and more consistent, which really blends well with the game he's got already, which i think all adds up to his value being safe.

Sheierman should be looked at as more of a jack of all trades, with shooting upside, thats where his value lies, he can be trusted to dribble the ball, pass it, make solid decisions quickly, hes not a ball-stopper, those are the things I assume got him moved up from the 70's to the 40s on the espn bigboard. Creighton does have one of the most balanced attacks in the nation, n Sheierman is really like a skilled glue guy for them. I dont think he'll be out of the league in 2 years.

Creighton as a team, you may remember big discrepancies on peoples opinions of how good they were preseason, I for one was in the boat "this is a top10 team" (others were more weary n thought they were more like a ~25th ranked team, and while they didnt look it at some parts of the season, here they are in the Sweet 16 and honestly they should smack Princeton, they present huge matchup difficulties.

if Ryan Nembhard plays like he did today, they can beat anyone.

Yep, there's cause for concern with Nick Smith's recent play(aside from the UK game where he was great), his upside is still real but its looking more and more shaky on how much he can contribute consistently in the NBA soon. If he needs to be a high volume guy or else he's not productive, thats not gonna help his cause and could coincide with the drop.

the sell is with Nick Smith that he's a combo guard, and not a 6'4 SG, but it doesnt always seem like that to me, in the games where his shot isnt falling you dont see him really tring to move the ball (like we often see from Malik Monk), Smith is a bit too much Feast or Famine.

Arkansas making it this far after the Brazille injury and the trouble that followed that in the season is a spectacular triumph and Nick Smith sure did choose the right team to go to. Interested to see if he can shake off the recent struggles n perform in the big games.

I didnt think Noah Clowney played very well vs Maryland.... By FAR my biggest takeaway from that game was Jahvon Quinerly is back!! Jaden Bradley gets 8 minutes off the bench while Javhon Quinerly leads the team in scoring on 4/6 from 3, what an interesting ripple that is for the #1 team in the land. Quinerly's had a lot of bad luck in college it would sure be a sweet redemption arc to see him come up with Aces in this tournamnet, yesterday was a big step in that direction.

No one ever mentions Charles Bediako when talking about Alabama, I hate it, thought he played SOOOOO well yesterday. He's an NBA player for damn sure. I think he's got solid talent and I'm vehement that this player is SO improved not just his game but his frame, he's been hitting the weights hard, good for him.

I have vowed since the preseason to play the role of devils advocate when it comes to drafting kris murray, cuz obviously there will be overwhelming support from the more casual fans. Rather than give some huge assesment on his play I'll wait cuz the topic is going to be a popular one. I do wonder is the team like the Kings the best landing spot for Kris Murray? Do we have minutes for him? Like where do we have 20 minutes off the bench for any position and why do you think itd be a rookie that'd get them? These toil in my mind much more than worrying about some of his peaks and valleys in college. We'll continue to revisit this topic so i'll leave it there. Personally, I'd take Max Lewis over him I think a swingman like that is probably a better choice than another combo forward.
 
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I love Wallace as a prospect. He plays great defense, shoots well, and can run the point. I think the biggest thing holding him back from being a top pick is that aggressive nature to go take over a game.
I'm not sure honestly, maybe your right, but I would point out how the Kings use Davion Mitchell, could he be built to step into a role like that sooner than later, I'd lean towards yes.
 
Coulibaly has shown up in some first round mocks lately. I wonder if he ends up going top 20. Just too much upside there imo to pass up. The competition looks dreadful but he is a smooth operator and has go go gadget arms.
All i know is I will jump up out of my seat and do a dance and probably start yelling and screaming if we can somehow draft that kid with the early 2nd rd pick.
 
So 2 new (i think) names have appeared on the ESPN100 list. One of them I posted about a few weeks ago

6'5" Riley Kugel on Florida... Combo skills, shot creation, hits the 3, interesting player, he came on really strong at the end of the season. He to me seems like possibly a really good fit next to players like Davion on the bench. They have him listed at #76 on the bigboard so I'd definitely throw his name into the list of possible late 2nd rd picks.. IMO he seems like the type who could really impress someteam in private workouts n leapfrog up boards.

6'8" 186lb(he's very strong, n his frame is built for much more weight if he wants to add it, dont read too much into this #) Eli John Ndiaye is a new name on that list for sure, coming in at #99. Appears to be a Pure PF, whatever that is these days, or i guess the way they say it is "he's got a defined role"


He won the MVP of this tournament from the highlights last summer and completely dominated in the final making the MVP discussion not much of a discussion. They are some mighty fine highlights if i do say so myself.. Looks agile, athletic, long armed and strong to me.. and if he hits his 3's like he did in this tournament, its quite easy to see the upside. Born June 26th 2004.

Very interesting, not just because he's a new name, I like what I see. Sure would be fun to see him in the G-League, though he seems like a possible stash candidate as well. I'll keep tabs on him, hope we hear a lot more as we push towards the summer.

passes my initial eye test for sure. Was totally not expecting to see a player who appears to be quite versatile. His wingspan doesnt look enormous to me but above average, I'd say 7'1
 
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HUGE Jump up the ESPN board by UCLA's Amari Bailey, from around the 60's to #43... Here I am posting about another lefty.

this is damn sure a storyline worth keeping an eye on as a Kings fan. He's been excellent of late. Lotta dirt was shoveled on his name, the claim that he's just pretty good at a bunch of stuff and doesnt have a real obvious translatable skill was damning and hung over his head like a black cloud for much of the season, it seems thats passed.

 
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does that look like an offensive foul to you? Thats some bullcrap

I know just a week or 2 ago I said the only offensive foul I'd post in this thread was Sidy Cissoko's poster taken away.. but look at this...
 
All i know is I will jump up out of my seat and do a dance and probably start yelling and screaming if we can somehow draft that kid with the early 2nd rd pick.
I agree with you. He would be a great plug and play player with huge upside. I just feel like a lot of teams look for players who can be #1 options when drafting at the top of the lottery.
 
I agree with you. He would be a great plug and play player with huge upside. I just feel like a lot of teams look for players who can be #1 options when drafting at the top of the lottery.
If the Kings land him in the 30's the TV draft analyst should say "and the rich get richer".. thats how I feel about that possible selection
 
If the Kings land him in the 30's the TV draft analyst should say "and the rich get richer".. thats how I feel about that possible selection
i guess the question is why isn’t he a top 20 pick right now on most boards? He plays the premium position, young, plays defense and has the tools to be a star if everything broke right. On top of all that, you think he can potentially be ready to contribute by the second half of next year.
 
i guess the question is why isn’t he a top 20 pick right now on most boards? He plays the premium position, young, plays defense and has the tools to be a star if everything broke right. On top of all that, you think he can potentially be ready to contribute by the second half of next year.
Well I'm actually fairly confident we'll get clarity on that before the draft occurs.. He figures to be the type that maybe a team could promise him in the first round and he shuts down workouts.. He also could be the type who gets the feedback of he could go in the lottery next year n pulls out.

Same figures to apply for Rayan Rupert
 
21st pick of the 2022 draft 7' Walker Kessler gave our Kings fits tonight. The 27th pick of the 2020 draft 6'11 Udoka Azubuike didnt miss a shot n stuffed the statsheet in 18 minutes. 13th pick of the 2013 draft '7 Kelly Olynyk outplayed our MVP candidate Sabonis.


This was one of those losses that makes me QUITE SURE Dereck Lively II would perform admirably on our team.. and honestly some of these 6'9 centers being discussed I dont think they can cut the mustard on a night like this. n hey maybe Lively picks up a bunch of fouls n cant help much, but that'll be early in his career, what about in year 3 or 4? He might be worth his weight in gold for us.. I believe it..

I swear Lively is a better solution for some of our problems than ppl realize around here... This game is one of the finest examples showing why.. That kid might not even have enough weight to him to deal with some of the problems of tonight, but hes a no-excuses type thru and thru n will try and try and try, which will fit GREAT here.. n once he learns, n bulks up, improves, he could be a monster for us, its such a good gamble given our current status.

Lively is not in the boat with Kel'el Ware where scouts are questioning his passion for basketball.. If you know the story about Lively's parents (father died of cocaine/heroine overdose in 2012, mothers been battling cancer for 8 years) you'd know Dereck is supremely motivated and about this basketball life 110%. We would be VERY lucky to land him far as I'm concerned, and IMO he'd be very lucky to land here too with the foundation we have in place.

glad i've been 'banging the drum' about Lively since preseason basically, look no further than tonights loss to the Jazz as to why he's possibly an excellent fit here.We need someone who can anchor the defense in the paint, if we dont get outscored by 20 points in the paint in this game its WAYYYY more winnable. We only had 6 turnovers tonight and lose but the Jazz blocked 8 of our shots.

Adem Bona on UCLA is an extreme effort, projected top40, run thru a wall for a coach type of hustle player, he's only 6'9 though so Lively is a WAYYYY better fit here. Even though on paper it looks like we need a backup C, so these 6'9 types seem to fit, we need a C thats the size of a starter, They can list Sabonis at 7' all they want, I dont believe that crap, its not true.

Someone show me any sort of actual proof Sabonis is 7', i'll wait.

The smallball we play has and will continue to take us far, a key opponent for us moving forward will continue to be Memphis whos got JJJ and Adams. Another Key opponent has De'Andre Ayton. As of tonight there's like a 40% chance Wembanyama lands in the west, If you think 6'10 Sabonis is gonna shut him down, well I wouldnt put all my eggs in that basket.
 
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Holy moly Rick Pitino gets hired as St. Johns next basketball coach!

I've never been a big Rick Pitino guy honestly, I think he's a bit of a jerk.

Even though its been so many decades that people have forgotten, St. Johns being really good is actually great for college basketball, and when St Johns is really good all of new york city gets behind them and the games have a truly electric atmosphere. He should be able to get some good recruits, there's truly quite a bit of local talent. What a storyline moving forward, very exciting tbh. He'll be handed some pretty damn good upperclassman too, very far from a cupboard being bare type of deal. Though if your watching this tournament, you can see the Big East is quite good and deep, the Johnnies this season destroyed their out of conference schedule and then things went sour quickly in the conference games.
 
btw I sorta jinxed 2 pg's i brought up here, ever since the posts i made about both of them they played kinda stinky

-Aidan Mahaney at St. Marys (who's a freshman n these struggles wont matter much, he's primed for a big sophomore szn)

- Tyler Kolek the 9 point loss to MSU, that final score doesnt really indicate how big of a beatdown that game was, Kolek was sloppy and MSU's guards thorougly outplayed Marquettes which added up to the final discrepancy. There was like an 11 minute stretch where Marquette couldnt score the ball n it was painful to watch, honestly from what I saw in a lot of Marquette games this season that loss seemed out of character, but it happens. Kolek did enough to put his name on the radar.
 
I am curious what do you guys think about Anthony Black? I like his ball handling, athletism and defense, shooting is bad tho. The position is tricky, ideally he maybe able to slot into 1-3 for us depending on the lineup.
 
I am curious what do you guys think about Anthony Black? I like his ball handling, athletism and defense, shooting is bad tho. The position is tricky, ideally he maybe able to slot into 1-3 for us depending on the lineup.
I love Anthony Black. High IQ, good ball handler, passer, and defender. I think his shot will eventually come around. I'm infatuated with his big size and length at PG. Like you, I'm not really sure where he would fit on the team. I think he should be a natural lead guard. Him and Sabonis would be awesome... but then there's Fox.

Unfortunately for us, he's going top 10 in the draft and we won't have a chance at him unless we trade him.
 
I am curious what do you guys think about Anthony Black? I like his ball handling, athletism and defense, shooting is bad tho. The position is tricky, ideally he maybe able to slot into 1-3 for us depending on the lineup.
Anthony Black is a fun player but hes going to go way before us in the draft. He's good defensively, way oversized combo guard, he should be fun to watch in the League surrounded by the right shooters.

Arkansas got destroyed today by UConn. Black and Ricky Council showed up but the rest of the team didnt.

Jordan Walsh with an empty 20 minutes in this game while Alex Karaban goes 5/5 n stuffs the statsheet.

I woulda thought the Mitchell twins woulda been used more to try and slow down Sanogo and Clingan, but I guess that wasnt gonna work either. UConn is a serious threat to win this tournament with Sanogo playing at the level he's been thru 3 games.
 
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Somehow UCLA has this back to a 1 possession game with 45 seconds to go..

Clearly this is one of Drew Timme's very best games in college. Heck of a showing for him.
 
Honestly UConn was by-far the most impressive team I saw in todays games.. Who can stop or even slow down Sanogo?

Gonzaga picking up Malachi Smith from the X-fer pool saved their season.. Its impossible to believe this team could push this far into the tournament just on the strength of Hickman and Sallis' PG play, they've been borderline invisible..
 
Strawther for 3!!! what an amazing ending sequence(aside from this clutch FT shooting:oops:)to this game wow.
A couple thoughts, some playoff team is going to get Strawther as an absolute steal and everyone will wonder why he went as late as he did just like Nembhard.

If a team thinks Amari Bailey can consistently go to his 3pt shot in the NBA, he's a 1st rounder. The talent oozes with him, but he's a safe bet to go back another year if he doesn't get a 1st round promise.

This might be an overreaction, but I want Jaime on the team. He's a winning player despite not taking the W against Gonzaga. He brings an extremely special type of competitive and toughness that most of these prospects don't have. I really don't know how he works out in the NBA, but even at just 10mins a night as a 2-way enforcer, he'd make his presence felt. Really loved watching him at UCLA, I wonder if he comes back for his covid year.
 
A couple thoughts, some playoff team is going to get Strawther as an absolute steal and everyone will wonder why he went as late as he did just like Nembhard.

If a team thinks Amari Bailey can consistently go to his 3pt shot in the NBA, he's a 1st rounder. The talent oozes with him, but he's a safe bet to go back another year if he doesn't get a 1st round promise.

This might be an overreaction, but I want Jaime on the team. He's a winning player despite not taking the W against Gonzaga. He brings an extremely special type of competitive and toughness that most of these prospects don't have. I really don't know how he works out in the NBA, but even at just 10mins a night as a 2-way enforcer, he'd make his presence felt. Really loved watching him at UCLA, I wonder if he comes back for his covid year.
Very good post. Total agreement with Strawther, everyone here seems to like Strawther from what I've read and judging how ESPN has him rated month after month after month at the bottom of the 2nd rd makes a lot of sense, he sure seems like good value. I hope he makes Givony eat crow about that ranking, hope he goes as high as he can.


Amari Bailey is a player I first heard about in 2017, he was an 8th grader who committed to DePaul and then renounced it a year later. (*A Chicago kid committing to a local school.) So i'm a bit biased, you hate to see a player keep his ranking up so high for so many years only for so much of it to be washed away in one season. Plus he's kinda famous for the Drake and his Mom thing, so ya gotta feel a bit for the kid. Less and less im concerned with his offense I think his defense is really more what I question, he'll certainly be in the G-League one way or the other, I always have faith in 6'5(is he really 6'5?) do it all types, at the very least many of them tend to stick around in the league for a while, PJ Dozier on the Kings is sorta one of those guys. Yeah his 3pt shot though, you'd figure thats his ticket to trying to get drafted high, maybe he shoots the lights out for teams in workouts, who knows. Remain unsure where I'd put him in this draft or the next one, will revisit the topic ina few weeks.


I made a lot of posts but surely not many about Jamie Jacquez Jr. I question if he's really a good fit with our roster, he's not really built to run at the NBA level and he's also not exactly some dead eye shooter as the trailer on the break either. Could he be our Joe Ingles? somehow thats how I've looked at it, n I think that might be giving him too much credit.

When I watched UCLA this year I always thought Jaylen Clark was more of our type of player. I could be totally wrong, guess we wont know this year because Jaylen Clark had surgery on that Achilles injury, which is brutal to recover from, seems unfathomable he'll be in this draft. Lots of these players I'd be happy with but honestly Jacquez would be kinda meh to me. However I would say he's a solid pairing with Davion Mitchell, his 3pt shot would have to be fairly reliable in that scenario though. As strange as it might sound I feel like Trey Lyles provides us with some of the stuff ud hope for from a player like Jacquez.
 
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I definitely wouldn't mind Strawther with the 2nd round pick from the Pacers if he's still on the board then. Barnes is far from a guarantee to return, and you really can't have too much quality wing depth anyway.

There are quite a few guys projected in the late first or 2nd round that can help shore up some problem areas for the Kings. Full sized backup C that protects the rim, long defensive wings, maybe even a backup PG/SG.

Dereck Lively, Sidy Cissoko, Julian Phillips, Leonard Miller etc

He had a disappointing game in the Sweet 16 and his overall stats aren't much to look at, but if Jordan Walsh enters the draft I wouldn't mind him with the Kings late 2nd rounder or as an UDFA. I think he's got the potential to be a very defensive player and possibly more if he develops a consistent outside shot.