Letter to the Kings

How does this comment make a lick of sense?

You think the only time Ainge can see the Kings play is when they are in Boston? Have you heard of television?

Do I think that? No. But I wasn't the one playing basketball in Boston last night.
Have I heard of television? Yes. Coincidentally, I was watching basketball on it last night.

As for the first question, I'll chalk that up as a lack of effort on your part. Seemingly a lot of that going around last night.
 
Do I think that? No. But I wasn't the one playing basketball in Boston last night.
Have I heard of television? Yes. Coincidentally, I was watching basketball on it last night.

As for the first question, I'll chalk that up as a lack of effort on your part. Seemingly a lot of that going around last night.
I think we misunderstand each other. I wasn't talking about the conspiracy part, but the part about last night hurting the rondo trade chances. I don't see how that makes sense.
 
oh lord.. It wasn't THAT BAD. And in terms of scoring we have "a big three". Just need some effort at the other end.
 
oh lord.. It wasn't THAT BAD. And in terms of scoring we have "a big three". Just need some effort at the other end.
As slim said there is not really a big 3 but for arguments sake lets say that there is.

If you leave the bulk of scoring to same 3 players as soon as one of the misses the game, you are up a crap creek without a canoe. Injuries happen, illnesses happen, suspensions happen. There certainly needs to be some offensive hierarchy but we are over reliant on 3 players. The best way to go forward is a certainly have you 2 players that average 20ppg or more and have the rest of the load spread a bit more evenly.

They beauty of the Kings team from the golden era was that they had 2 player who averaged 20+ppg, then the rest of guys who could score but didn't need to so they concentrated on other things. That team had 6 players who averaged double figure scoring. If one of the 20ppg scorers were out injured, there were plenty of other who could step up and make up the gap.

Being over-relaint on 2-3 players is a recepie for a disaster unless your big 3 are hall of fame talents which our's are clearly not outside of Cousins who if he continues his current rate of improvement will get there.
 
Well, if that's the way you see it, the only thing that I can say in response to that is... we clearly don't have the same working definition of a "Big Three."
 
Maybe a few on the team has heard a leak in a big deal going down and has the core in a funk. bajaden and I watched Cavs game and it, with the previous two roadies, we think it shows a team in a funk. A funk of the core group has to have a reason, a cause, something to start it. Less than 9 days to trade deadline. But something is wrong and not just Cuz, but IT, MT, JT and others. At least from what we saw tonight and last couple games on road. After 2 min of tonights game I commented "If they continue to play with this attitude, they will lose by 15 to the lowly Cavs." Almost hit it on the nose it was that blatant what they were and were not doing. JT ZERO points, MT only 9 shots and he made 3 3's. and on and on.
 
^ Yea something is definitely going on behind the scenes to make this team look so disjointed on the floor in these last 3 games
 
I doubt it some leaked deal! I think DMC is still feeling the effects of that ankle and he is sooking for not making the all-star team. Its all part of growing up. I hope it is a big trade that brings a quality PG or a shot blocker back. I very much doubt Cousins is on trade block so anyone that meshes with him would be nice.

I just think the team is in a funk for a number of reasons:
- DMC sooking for not making the all-star team
- IT finding it hard to fit into the role that is just not natural to him
- Gay having the flu then going into a shooting funk
- Offensive minded players foregoing touches so that "big 3" put up all the shots
- Offensive minded players asked to focus on defense which is just not natural to them and its starting to take its toll

Basically, Malone is trying to hold things together with a sticky tape and some chewing gum on a team made up of pieces that don't fit. In other words, we have a lot of square pegs that do not fit into the round holes.
 
We can all have an opinion on what's going on with DMC and perhaps by extension, Rudy. Let us discuss the subject of tanking. I do not want a team to be told to try to lose. It goes against everything a team and a coach should do. It guarantees nothing except that the probability of getting a great player improves the worse you play.

I cannot believe DMC would tank but what I saw yesterday was very odd and in the game thread I commented several times that "something's up." DMC took one shot in two quarters. I absolutely do not think the Cleveland bigs shut down DMC. There are very few teams that could do that to DMC and Cleveland isn't one of them. Someone noted, as did I, that he turned down an open 14 footer to try a more difficult shot which he missed.

In the 4th quarter DMC cranked up his energy and scored 10 points. He looked like the Boogie we have known and loved. It was like to show that no one could REALLY shut him down. He played hard after the game was already lost.

I know this sounds absurd to the people that generally think the way I do but I think Cuz was tanking. The game before he appeared lethargic, as if he had the flu and some of us went with that theory. Maybe he was already tanking.

Let us assume Cuz was tanking along with Rudy, perhaps, but I wasn't as focused on Rudy. The question comes up as to who ordered the tank. I didn't watch Malone after the game as his demeanor would have given a clue. I am suspecting that the tank is a Rudy/Cuz deal and maybe even without Malone's OK. If it is this latter, I think it is awful.

I don't get it (scratching head). I really don't and just want to throw this out.

Let me add, I am absolutely against tanking if it means less effort by a coach or the players. A proper tank would be to put together a team that can't win and have them bust their ass. Why aren't we playing Landry? Maybe he is too good. I doubt that but it's another question that is floating through people's confused minds.

There is no team with Cuz, Rudy, and IT that should lose like they are. Throw in JT, Thornton, and Landry and you have a team that should win quite often, whatever that meant. :)

Before anyone goes ballistic on me arguing in either direction, give it a thought.

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I also have a theory that there is a tremendous amount of dissension in the locker room that mirrors the dissension on this forum. I half way supported IT on one play and almost got my head bitten off. Quite honestly I was shocked as I thought I had more respect than that. But, it shows the strength of the anger swirling around the subject of IT. I absolutely will reject any idea that just because we are angry that the team is immune from having the same feelings for any reason. They are human and they see what we see. In fact, they are effected in a more direct way.

That kind of dissension could show itself in many ways. I watched Cuz and IT and although I have seen Cuz very angry at IT, I have also seen Cuz be supportive of IT. This dissension could be over IT's style or as petty as "who's the leader?" In the thread I quoted Lincoln from 1858 and I don't think my random thought was understood: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." Now Lincoln was discussing something more important than a basketball team but it was a wise statement.

In any case, I don't want to watch this crap. Let's fast forward to the end of the season.
 
I don't think Cousins or Gay is tanking. I think their human and just like at work some times it is hard to go full throttle. The uncertainty and the losing has to be getting at them along with the rest. Pessimism can be as contagious as the flu.

The part about the house divided comes before Lincoln, it's in scripture. Just not that exact quote. There's truth behind it. It's quite possible, when things aren't going good and the losses are piling up, fractures are bound to happen.
 
I don't think Cousins or Gay is tanking. I think their human and just like at work some times it is hard to go full throttle. The uncertainty and the losing has to be getting at them along with the rest. Pessimism can be as contagious as the flu.

The part about the house divided comes before Lincoln, it's in scripture. Just not that exact quote. There's truth behind it. It's quite possible, when things aren't going good and the losses are piling up, fractures are bound to happen.

I trust the written words of Lincoln.
 
Fair enough.

I don't think Lincoln pulled that idea out of his rear. He had major power behind it that an occasional person who could read might remember. When I Googled I only came up with Lincoln and that was adequate.

I am so fed up with this team I could scream. It has led to people in the forum sniping at each other, as if that will ever change, but more than usual. I am sooooo tired of backing a loser. I expected so much more with this mythical Big Three. Cuz is great and has improved in all ways better than expected. Rudy is better than advertised. Make what you wish of IT but he can score. Ben's pick was met with a group orgasm by the Kings' war room, Thornton got a nice big check, Malone got his Landry, Acy has a role that he is playing. That should be enough to win at a higher rate than we are winning. Sure, sure, they haven't been together long but Toronto sure isn't having that problem.

Rookie owner, rookie coach, rookie GM and here we are. Maybe we are where we should be but I really doubt that. We are 4th from the bottom. I see a lot of explanations and in the end, we need to win or they will temporarily lose me. If that makes me a bad fan, so be it.
 
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You have 24 hours in a day, seven days in a week, 52 weeks in a year and once you spend a second of it you can never get it back. Me, I am still hoping and I wonder where my daughter gets her stubbornness from. At least she didn't get her smarts from me:(.
 
You have 24 hours in a day, seven days in a week, 52 weeks in a year and once you spend a second of it you can never get it back. Me, I am still hoping and I wonder where my daughter gets her stubbornness from. At least she didn't get her smarts from me:(.

We all have our parenting burdens or are victims of such. :)
 
We can all have an opinion on what's going on with DMC and perhaps by extension, Rudy. Let us discuss the subject of tanking. I do not want a team to be told to try to lose. It goes against everything a team and a coach should do. It guarantees nothing except that the probability of getting a great player improves the worse you play.

I cannot believe DMC would tank but what I saw yesterday was very odd and in the game thread I commented several times that "something's up." DMC took one shot in two quarters. I absolutely do not think the Cleveland bigs shut down DMC. There are very few teams that could do that to DMC and Cleveland isn't one of them. Someone noted, as did I, that he turned down an open 14 footer to try a more difficult shot which he missed.

In the 4th quarter DMC cranked up his energy and scored 10 points. He looked like the Boogie we have known and loved. It was like to show that no one could REALLY shut him down. He played hard after the game was already lost.

I know this sounds absurd to the people that generally think the way I do but I think Cuz was tanking. The game before he appeared lethargic, as if he had the flu and some of us went with that theory. Maybe he was already tanking.

Let us assume Cuz was tanking along with Rudy, perhaps, but I wasn't as focused on Rudy. The question comes up as to who ordered the tank. I didn't watch Malone after the game as his demeanor would have given a clue. I am suspecting that the tank is a Rudy/Cuz deal and maybe even without Malone's OK. If it is this latter, I think it is awful.

I don't get it (scratching head). I really don't and just want to throw this out.

Let me add, I am absolutely against tanking if it means less effort by a coach or the players. A proper tank would be to put together a team that can't win and have them bust their ass. Why aren't we playing Landry? Maybe he is too good. I doubt that but it's another question that is floating through people's confused minds.

There is no team with Cuz, Rudy, and IT that should lose like they are. Throw in JT, Thornton, and Landry and you have a team that should win quite often, whatever that meant. :)

Before anyone goes ballistic on me arguing in either direction, give it a thought.

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I also have a theory that there is a tremendous amount of dissension in the locker room that mirrors the dissension on this forum. I half way supported IT on one play and almost got my head bitten off. Quite honestly I was shocked as I thought I had more respect than that. But, it shows the strength of the anger swirling around the subject of IT. I absolutely will reject any idea that just because we are angry that the team is immune from having the same feelings for any reason. They are human and they see what we see. In fact, they are effected in a more direct way.

That kind of dissension could show itself in many ways. I watched Cuz and IT and although I have seen Cuz very angry at IT, I have also seen Cuz be supportive of IT. This dissension could be over IT's style or as petty as "who's the leader?" In the thread I quoted Lincoln from 1858 and I don't think my random thought was understood: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." Now Lincoln was discussing something more important than a basketball team but it was a wise statement.

In any case, I don't want to watch this crap. Let's fast forward to the end of the season.
I've got no doubt that Cousins has gone into the sooky sooky la la mode since he got snubbed as a AS reserve. He has not been the same player since. Gay had the flu and might still be a bit flat after that, or he just might be in a bit of a funk....happens to everyone, even the best of them.

Malone's HUGE challenge is getting to DMC to toughen the **** up, be a pro and show them that they made a mistake not picking him. That is the way you want him to respond.

No doubt the chemistry is not great and needs improving, whether by trade or another players only meeting which I am not in favor of, simply because its a band aid solution to a bigger problem. Don't treat the symptom, treat the cause! :)
 
I've got no doubt that Cousins has gone into the sooky sooky la la mode since he got snubbed as a AS reserve. He has not been the same player since. Gay had the flu and might still be a bit flat after that, or he just might be in a bit of a funk....happens to everyone, even the best of them.

Malone's HUGE challenge is getting to DMC to toughen the **** up, be a pro and show them that they made a mistake not picking him. That is the way you want him to respond.

No doubt the chemistry is not great and needs improving, whether by trade or another players only meeting which I am not in favor of, simply because its a band aid solution to a bigger problem. Don't treat the symptom, treat the cause! :)

Sooky sooky la la mode???? Did the forum censor something? ;) Is this some European thing? To be honest, at first I thought you said "a la mode" until I typed this. Damn my vision is failing me. Freaking cataracts.
 
Sooky sooky la la mode???? Did the forum censor something? ;) Is this some European thing? To be honest, at first I thought you said "a la mode" until I typed this. Damn my vision is failing me. Freaking cataracts.
Its an Aussie term when someone spits the dummy (another aussie term) and starts feeling sorry for themselves and wants other to feel sorry for him. Its the body language that he has displayed since the snub. Its all part of maturity and growing up.

Even LeBron James went through that growing up process.
 
Its an Aussie term when someone spits the dummy (another aussie term) and starts feeling sorry for themselves and wants other to feel sorry for him. Its the body language that he has displayed since the snub. Its all part of maturity and growing up.

Even LeBron James went through that growing up process.
If it were about team first the All-Star snub would not bother anyone, Cousins has to go back to putting in some hard yakka (yes another aussie term).
 
If it were about team first the All-Star snub would not bother anyone, Cousins has to go back to putting in some hard yakka (yes another aussie term).
Absolutely nothing wrong with having personal goals. He clearly wants to be an all-star and he has every right to feel snubbed but the response to it has not been great. All part of growing up.

I am pretty sure that winning is very important to Cousins. If it wasn't he wouldn't be the intense and fiesty beast that he is on the court. He wouldn't be yapping at Thornton when he makes the same mistake twice in a row. He is an intense and highly competitive kid. No different to what KG was when he entered the league. He punched his own team mate Anthony Peeler.

I certainly don't want Cousins to lose that, nor do I want him not to have personal goals. I want him to have those and set them pretty high. His reaction to the snub is immature but its all part of growing up. I am pretty sure my reaction to not having it my way was different at 16 to what it was at 23 to what it was at 30. People grow up and mature. DeMarcus is no different. Its just that his growing pains are out there for the public to see.
 
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