Lakers Acquire Steve Nash

[UK_King]

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https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/220675288399491072

 

[matthew76]

&$%^ those *&$*#@%$^. I hate this. I really do.

 

[Tetsujin]

I dunno. The make up of that Lakers team makes me think that they are due for a massive flame-out next year. Both Kobe and Nash are ball dominant guys. Plus 4/5 of that starting line-up is in the decline phase of their careers.

 

[Heuge]

F f f f f f

 

[one]

It's great that Steve Nash is old school and would be extremely difficult for him, to put on a Fakers jersey. Especially after all the playoff battles,etc. Um yeah ok, I will be waiting to see if there is any Nash bashing like my boy Lebron. Unfortunately our society dosen't work that way. He will get a pass as will Dwight when he goes to L.A. next week for Steve Blake smh lol....

 

[kingjatt]

I dunno. The make up of that Lakers team makes me think that they are due for a massive flame-out next year. Both Kobe and Nash are ball dominant guys. Plus 4/5 of that starting line-up is in the decline phase of their careers.

apparently it was kobe who heavily recruited nash and made the final pitch to him that swayed him to LA, there are talks on twitter that nash is trying to bring his buddy grant hill along to LA as well, they were fine defensively this year, they even held OKC relatively in check in the playoffs it was the offense that stalled out on them and thats where nash makes his mark.

 

[kingjatt]

It's great that Steve Nash is old school and would be extremely difficult for him, to put on a Fakers jersey. Especially after all the playoff battles,etc. Um yeah ok, I will be waiting to see if there is any Nash bashing like my boy Lebron. Unfortunately our society dosen't work that way. He will get a pass as will Dwight when he goes to L.A. next week for Steve Blake smh lol....

its surprising especially since he himself said he couldn't see himself in a lakers uniform. he wont get bashed like lebron, totally different situations, nash is good but definitely not the best player in bball like lebron is/was in his prime joining 2 other young studs on 6 year deals in their prime. plus he doesnt have a self proclaimed nickname like "the king" or "the chosen one" tattooed on himself which tends to rub people the wrong way.

oh and dwight is helping nash out with his prima dona act going on simultaneously.

 

[butteredbiscuit]

apparently it was kobe who heavily recruited nash and made the final pitch to him that swayed him to LA, there are talks on twitter that nash is trying to bring his buddy grant hill along to LA as well, they were fine defensively this year, they even held OKC relatively in check in the playoffs it was the offense that stalled out on them and thats where nash makes his mark.

Michael Scotto ‏@MikeAScotto

Rumor: Lakers to offer Andrew Bynum, Metta World Peace, & Steve Blake for Dwight Howard & Jason Richardson. Deal hinges on Dwight extension.

 

[one]

good point. I was trying to b silly but honestly I wonder what this will do for the 35+ NBA fan that just wants to see guys earn theirs the old fashion way. Maybe this will be the last straw, but I'm sure they will be there in November along with myself watching with some disgust and excitement. Nash is the golden boy and I bet it's going to suck for Suns fans as he will be killing em softly along with every other team in the west besides OKC when Dwight arrives shortly.

 

[Heuge]

It's great that Steve Nash is old school and would be extremely difficult for him, to put on a Fakers jersey. Especially after all the playoff battles,etc. Um yeah ok, I will be waiting to see if there is any Nash bashing like my boy Lebron. Unfortunately our society dosen't work that way. He will get a pass as will Dwight when he goes to L.A. next week for Steve Blake smh lol....

I'll start bashing when Nash does a half hour special rubbing his decision in the noses of his fan base. Well, who am I kidding, Ill start bashing Nash the moment he puts on the evil uniform.

 

[spudfan]

I'll start bashing when Nash does a half hour special rubbing his decision in the noses of his fan base. Well, who am I kidding, Ill start bashing Nash the moment he puts on the evil uniform.

I am so conflicted. I like Nash but can't stand the Lakers. WHAT DO I DO!

 

[King Baller]

Beat the lakers!!!!

 

[Return To Glory]

So when's Dwight arriving in LA?

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't know why people are so worried about this. Nash is old enough he can fall off the cliff at any point now. Kobe is already in decline, and Pau looked to be as well. Could it work? Sure. But there are all kinds of ways they still come up short. Rem the Kobe/Shaq/Mailman/Payton crew? This is no guarantee.

More surprising that Nash, after all the years of saying it didn't matter to the point he was just gong to stay put and wind down, all of a sudden pulled off one of the two ultimate ringchasing with no pride (Miami=other) moves.

 

[VF21]

The Clippers score Lamar Odom. The Lakers turn around and get Steve Nash. So much for the Clippers being the best team in Staples.

My hatred of the Lakers is bottomless...and endless...and eternal.

 

[Heuge]

I am so conflicted. I like Nash but can't stand the Lakers. WHAT DO I DO!

Dumb question. IMHO.

 

[Section 101]

Michael Scotto ‏@MikeAScotto

Rumor: Lakers to offer Andrew Bynum, Metta World Peace, & Steve Blake for Dwight Howard & Jason Richardson. Deal hinges on Dwight extension.

www.cbafaq.com

91. Can a player be given an extension and traded at the same time?
Similar to a sign-and-trade arrangement (see question number 88), a team may sign an eligible player to an extension (see question number 58) and immediately trade him to another team. Such an "extend-and-trade" is limited to three seasons, which include any seasons remaining on the player's current contract1. The salary in the first season of the extension can have a 4.5% raise over the last season of the existing contract, and subsequent raises are limited to 4.5% of the salary in the first season of the extension.

A player cannot be traded in an extend-and-trade after the season (for example, on draft day) in the last season of his contract, or in any season that might be the last season due to an option or ETO.

Since an extend-and-trade has greater limits than a regular extension (three seasons and 4.5% raises vs. four seasons and 7.5% raises), the rules prevent teams from circumventing these limits by extending and trading the player in separate transactions. If a team extends a player beyond the limits of an extend-and-trade (for example, if they sign a player to a four-year extension), they can't trade the player for six months. Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade.

Extend-and-trade transactions are rare. To date they have only been used for Kevin Garnett (traded from Minnesota to Boston in 2007) and Carmelo Anthony (traded from Denver to New York in 2011).


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1 The current season counts as one full year, even if the extension is signed as late as June 30. So if a contract is extended on June 30 with one full season remaining, only one new season can be added to the contract with an extend-and-trade.

 

[kingsnation]

I don't know why people are so worried about this. Nash is old enough he can fall off the cliff at any point now. Kobe is already in decline, and Pau looked to be as well. Could it work? Sure. But there are all kinds of ways they still come up short. Rem the Kobe/Shaq/Mailman/Payton crew? This is no guarantee.

More surprising that Nash, after all the years of saying it didn't matter to the point he was just gong to stay put and wind down, all of a sudden pulled off one of the two ultimate ringchasing with no pride (Miami=other) moves.

Agreed. Even with Nash, I don't see LA getting past the 2nd round.

 

[Gary]

I can see Kobe turn into a "sit back and rain 3s" type of guy now for some reason. Kinda what Quentin Richardson did when he played with Nash. So Look for Kobe to shoot about 100-200 more 3pt shots than his previous high.

I don't think this really helps the Lakers. You get a guy like Kobe who's used to controlling the offense and then putting in a PG that's used to doing the same thing, I can't see it working any more than when Sessions was starting.

Personally if they had a guy like Batum with Nash, Pau, Bynum, and Barnes as their starting lineup I see it doing just as well as a lineup with Kobe as the SF/SG. Don't get me wrong though, Kobe is better than anyone they could put at SG/SF but in this situation I don't think he's the best fit, and someone that could rain threes who does not need the ball is probably a better fit i.e. Batum/Barnes.

That being said I still think the Lakers will win 55-60 games.

 

[kennadog]

I was kind of rooting for Toronto to get Nash. It would have been nice, I think, for the Canadian team to get a Canadian player. Oh well.

 

[Mass]

3 years deal for Nash is way too much. I mean, he is a great player, but he's 38. And I'm not so sure he will work in the Lakers with Kobe. I don't know, I hope this move is a complete failure for them. I really hope so.

 

[Lockehead]

They're both highly ball dominant guards, but they also possess a very high BBIQ. With their offensive capabilities - 3 point shots, mid range, putting the ball on the floor etc - they might be able to work together on that end of the floor.

 

[Tetsujin]

I can see Kobe turn into a "sit back and rain 3s" type of guy now for some reason. Kinda what Quentin Richardson did when he played with Nash. So Look for Kobe to shoot about 100-200 more 3pt shots than his previous high.

I don't think this really helps the Lakers. You get a guy like Kobe who's used to controlling the offense and then putting in a PG that's used to doing the same thing, I can't see it working any more than when Sessions was starting.

Personally if they had a guy like Batum with Nash, Pau, Bynum, and Barnes as their starting lineup I see it doing just as well as a lineup with Kobe as the SF/SG. Don't get me wrong though, Kobe is better than anyone they could put at SG/SF but in this situation I don't think he's the best fit, and someone that could rain threes who does not need the ball is probably a better fit i.e. Batum/Barnes.

That being said I still think the Lakers will win 55-60 games.

If that's the case the rest of the NBA has nothing to fear. Kobe isn't that great from the perimeter.

 

[mac]

It's great that Steve Nash is old school and would be extremely difficult for him, to put on a Fakers jersey. Especially after all the playoff battles,etc. Um yeah ok, I will be waiting to see if there is any Nash bashing like my boy Lebron. Unfortunately our society dosen't work that way. He will get a pass as will Dwight when he goes to L.A. next week for Steve Blake smh lol....

Let's see ...

Nash - 38 years old, definitely past his prime
Lebron - 25 years old, just entering prime?

Nash - Never made it to NBA finals, left after his team did not make playoffs for 2 consecutive years. Joins other ageing stars to chase 1 or 2 rings tops (I seriously doubt he will be of much help when he's 41).
Lebron - Made it to NBA finals pretty much on his own, left after his team was the top team in the East for 2 consecutive years, joining 2 other stars entering their prime to attempt to establish a dynasty

Nash - Sold his owner and GM on the idea, ensuring both parties parted ways on good terms. Also left PHX after it was known to the whole world that Nash would like to play for a contender (as all vets do) and the Suns would like to rebuild and get younger.
James - Didn't let his team know he was going to leave, letting them and the entire Cleveland fanbase find out on a 1 hour TV special, breaking their hearts as they all were begging for him to stay.

I don't know about you but I can't really bash a 38 year old 2 time-MVP who's never made the finals for chasing after a ring or two the "easy" way.

 

[mac]

I can see Kobe turn into a "sit back and rain 3s" type of guy now for some reason. Kinda what Quentin Richardson did when he played with Nash. So Look for Kobe to shoot about 100-200 more 3pt shots than his previous high.

I don't think this really helps the Lakers. You get a guy like Kobe who's used to controlling the offense and then putting in a PG that's used to doing the same thing, I can't see it working any more than when Sessions was starting.

Personally if they had a guy like Batum with Nash, Pau, Bynum, and Barnes as their starting lineup I see it doing just as well as a lineup with Kobe as the SF/SG. Don't get me wrong though, Kobe is better than anyone they could put at SG/SF but in this situation I don't think he's the best fit, and someone that could rain threes who does not need the ball is probably a better fit i.e. Batum/Barnes.

That being said I still think the Lakers will win 55-60 games.

His shooting alone will help the Lakers a lot. Ramon Sessions singlehandedly screwed them over with his inability to hit or even attempt an outside shot during the playoffs. His playmaking ability will also take a lot of the pressure off of Kobe, who won't have to work so hard for his own shots and to create shots for others. Defensively they are probably even worse off than they were with Fisher, but frmo what I saw last playoffs it was their inability to score that really killed them against OKC.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I'm happy for Nash that it seems he's finally trying to go after a championship. I admire his loyalty to Phoenix, but it's time he actually tries to go for the gold. And this isn't like going to Miami, getting the Lakers to the finals is still going to be a challenge.

 

[Kings Faithful]

I don't know how this is going to work out for the Lakers... but I do know one thing. Nash is going to freaking KILL us in like he always does...but this time its going to be in a Lakers jersey, making it 10X worse.

 

[UK_King]

I've always loved watching Nash play, shame that has to end. If this leads to Dwight pitching up in LA in what will be, typically, a completely lopsided and brain neutral trade, i will spit feathers.

 

[HndsmCelt]

This would have been terrible news 5 years ago, now watching the Lakers get on the hook for 3 years with a 38 yo PG who will compete with their aging poster boy for ball time makes me smile. Rumor is they will be replacing the Gatoraid next to the bench with Geritol.

 

[The Hammer]

I kind of hate to say it, but Steve Nash was EXACTLY what the Lakers needed. Never mind the dudes age. He takes every vitamin under the sun, and does freaky progressive training strategies to keep his joints strong. Yoga n **** or whatever.

Kobe probably said to him, "you do what you do. you be the distributor, I'll defer to you on the court". As well he should. Nash probably made Kobe promise to play actual basketball. In my opinion, Nash is the smartest player ever to play the game. The problem is he's never had adequate defense behind him, or, honestly, enough quality players around him. I honestly think you're going to see Kobe become a role player, as all players do around Nash. Kobe's role will just be a bit bigger than other players. Make no mistake about it though, this makes the Lakers a whole lot better.

This kinda sucks cause I am, was, a Steve Nash fan. Oh well. This will just make beating the Lakers that much more fun!