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Lakers in trade talks to get Garnett
Trade discussions involve sending Odom and Bynum for the Timberwolves star in a possible four-team deal. Bryant is not part of the possible trade.
By Mike Bresnahan, Times Staff Writer
12:00 PM PDT, June 25, 2007


The owners of the Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves have begun talks for a trade that would involve sending Kevin Garnett to the Lakers, league sources said Monday.

A multi-team trade discussion is underway involving the Lakers, Indiana, Minnesota and possibly a fourth team, with the Lakers getting Garnett and the Pacers getting Lamar Odom and teenage center Andrew Bynum from the Lakers. Another minor player will likely be added to make the deal work financially.

Jerry Buss and Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor spoke by phone for 20 minutes Friday. Buss reportedly ended the conversation by suggesting that Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak and Timberwolves vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale would continue the discussion Monday.

Such a move could address the concerns of Kobe Bryant, who has demanded to be traded for more than four weeks.

Bryant met with Kupchak for about an hour Friday, a day after Garnett rejected a trade that would have sent him to Boston.

Bryant did not step down from his desire to be traded. However, Kupchak, Buss and Lakers Coach Phil Jackson met later that day to discuss options based on the assumption they would still have Bryant, The Times has learned.

Garnett, 31, has never formally asked for a trade while signaling his distress in recent years as the Timberwolves fell from top-notch status. The No. 1-seeded team in the Western Conference in 2004, they lost to the Lakers in the West finals and haven't made the playoffs since then.

The Timberwolves finished 33-49 in 2005-06 and 32-50 last season, tied for 12th in the West with Portland.

Garnett can opt out of his contract after next season. He wants an extension, which Buss reportedly told Taylor he was willing to offer. Garnett is due to earn $22 million next season and $23 million in 2008-09, the last year of his contract.

Garnett, a 10-time All-Star, averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 1.7 blocked shots last season while showing few signs of slowing down, other than spending the last five games of the season in Los Angeles — he has a home in Malibu — to rest a sore right quadriceps.

Bynum, 19, started his second NBA season with a flurry, including a memorable game against Minnesota in which he had 20 points,14 rebounds and three blocked shots last November.

But Bynum struggled during the second half of the season and finished with averages of 7.8 points and 5.9 rebounds a game. The Lakers have been criticized by Bryant for not trading Bynum at the February trade deadline in order to get Jason Kidd from New Jersey.

Odom, 27, was acquired three years ago as part of the trade that sent Shaquille O'Neal to Miami.

He averaged 15.9 points, 9.8 rebounds and 4.8 assists last season and missed 26 games because of knee and shoulder injuries. He had a torn labrum in his left shoulder repaired last month and is expected to return in time for training camp in October.

mike.bresnahan@latimes.com
 
More wishfull thinking from La La Land... I jsut do NOT see McHale handing LA the keys to success, and from the Lakers perspective Im not shure how willing they will be to pay luxury tax and infinitum to make it happen. Between the Koblet's sallery and KG's behomoth contract that leaves a about a buck fifty to pay the rest of the team.
 
I think there may be more than just wishful thinking involved this time, Celt. If Garnett has actually been a little more forceful privately with McHale than he has publicly, and McHale KNOWS Garnett is not going to remain with the team after next season, this deal could at least get them something decent in return. And if the Lakers are willing to accept a Garnett extension, the TWolves are in a great position bargaining power-wise to get a lot coming back to them.

I think Jerry Buss would pay the luxury tax without even blinking if it brought Kevin Garnett to the Lakers.

This one scares me a little...
 
WOW Kobe and KG talk about fierce competitors perfect match attitude wise.. That would plavce them right up with the Suns and Spurs in the west
 
It doesnt scare me because we are not contending this year anyway so who cares. Besides with Garnett and Kobe the lakers still would not be up there with Dallas,San Antonio, and Phoenix IMO.
 
It doesnt scare me because we are not contending this year anyway so who cares. Besides with Garnett and Kobe the lakers still would not be up there with Dallas,San Antonio, and Phoenix IMO.

I don't mean only this coming year. And with Garnett and Kobe on the same team, the Lakers would be instant contenders. They could have Bozo the one-legged monkey, Smush Parker and Vlad on the court with them and still command respect from the rest of the league.
 
I think there may be more than just wishful thinking involved this time, Celt. If Garnett has actually been a little more forceful privately with McHale than he has publicly, and McHale KNOWS Garnett is not going to remain with the team after next season, this deal could at least get them something decent in return. And if the Lakers are willing to accept a Garnett extension, the TWolves are in a great position bargaining power-wise to get a lot coming back to them.

I think Jerry Buss would pay the luxury tax without even blinking if it brought Kevin Garnett to the Lakers.

This one scares me a little...
Perhaps, but Garnet and an extension means not only are you condemed to major Lux tax for YEARS to come but you are likely stuck with the aged KG that looms over the hill. Would make the Lakers a force for the next few years but could literlly gut the team in future. Oh well nothing to do bu watch.
 
Would make the Lakers a force for the next few years but could literlly gut the team in future...

And that's why it scares me. I don't think Buss is worried about the long-term future. He's worried about making his superstar happy. And THIS would make Kobe a very happy camper.

Anything can happen in the future. And an aged KG is eventually a huge salary cap relief.
 
The owners of the Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves have begun talks for a trade that would involve sending Kevin Garnett to the Lakers, league sources said Monday.

A multi-team trade discussion is underway involving the Lakers, Indiana, Minnesota and possibly a fourth team, with the Lakers getting Garnett and the Pacers getting Lamar Odom and teenage center Andrew Bynum from the Lakers. Another minor player will likely be added to make the deal work financially.

OK......

So who the heck does Minny get, and who is Indy shipping out to get Odom and Bynum????

Is that just a typo?
 
I don't really understand the deal. What would Minnesota get? Jermaine O'Neal? How would that make sense for them?
 
Here is the deal as reported on on other message boards I have seen:

Lakers would get Kevin Garnett
Pacers would get Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom
Celtics would get Jermaine O'Neal
Wolves would get Al Jefferson,Wally Szcerbiak,Sebastin Telfair,Theo Ratliff, and the 5th pick
 
Here is the deal as reported on on other message boards I have seen:

Lakers would get Kevin Garnett
Pacers would get Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom
Celtics would get Jermaine O'Neal
Wolves would get Al Jefferson,Wally Szcerbiak,Sebastin Telfair,Theo Ratliff, and the 5th pick

Interesting..... Lakers only have to give up Bynum and Odom for KG. But Celtics have to give up half their starting lineup and 5th pick for JO.....
 
that makes no sense.... why not just send odom, bynum and filler to minny for kg? why involve 2 more teams that reall dont improve with the trade?
 
And that's why it scares me. I don't think Buss is worried about the long-term future. He's worried about making his superstar happy. And THIS would make Kobe a very happy camper.

You can make Kobe happy for about five minutes. But like any two year old, he will then find something else to throw a fit about after the five minutes have passed. Such as, "Kevin took my ball and won't give it back. Somebody make him go away."

Bending over backwards to please a two year old is just a bad idea IMHO.
 
You can make Kobe happy for about five minutes. But like any two year old, he will then find something else to throw a fit about after the five minutes have passed. Such as, "Kevin took my ball and won't give it back. Somebody make him go away."

Bending over backwards to please a two year old is just a bad idea IMHO.

Oh I totally and completely agree. But I don't think Jerry Buss does... I think he'll do whatever it takes to try and keep Kobe "happy" for the short term.

I would love to see the Lakers tell Kobe to shut up, honor his contract and play, but they're not gonna do it - at least if current actions are any indication.

EDIT: Maybe one of our resident Laker fans could help us out in trying to figure out where Buss might be coming from? (HINT, Gargy!!!)
 
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You can make Kobe happy for about five minutes. But like any two year old, he will then find something else to throw a fit about after the five minutes have passed. Such as, "Kevin took my ball and won't give it back. Somebody make him go away."

Bending over backwards to please a two year old is just a bad idea IMHO.

kobe isn't that guy when the lakers are winning championships, and garnett is a much more compatible personality to match with kobe than shaq was, so i could imagine very little rift between them that goes outside of the confines of both players simply being highly competitive and highly motivated. when garnett finally loses the step that still makes him great, then we'd probably see kobe get all riled up again. but for the lakers, right now, its a completely acceptable risk. they'd contend for championships again, keep kobe happy during the title run, and have fans pushing and shoving into the seats. the western conference would be scarier than it already is through the consolidation of superstar talent. instead of two mediocre teams, you end up with one great team, and one on the rebuild.
 
More wishfull thinking from La La Land... I jsut do NOT see McHale handing LA the keys to success, and from the Lakers perspective Im not shure how willing they will be to pay luxury tax and infinitum to make it happen. Between the Koblet's sallery and KG's behomoth contract that leaves a about a buck fifty to pay the rest of the team.

Buss has never payed the LT, but he has said many times that he would for the right player(s).

If Taylor has opened the door for negotiations w/ Buss (if in fact that's what happened in their convo), that would theoretically eliminate McHale's default veto and turn him into a car salesman who has to report to his boss on details. If Taylor had never intervened, McHale never would've seriously talked to the Lakers -- he once turned down Eddie Jones for Googs knowing full well Googs was leaving as a FA.

That said, the terrain in a 4-team deal for superstars is full of booby traps and landmines. See it to believe it.
 
Oh I totally and completely agree. But I don't think Jerry Buss does... I think he'll do whatever it takes to try and keep Kobe "happy" for the short term.

I would love to see the Lakers tell Kobe to shut up, honor his contract and play, but they're not gonna do it - at least if current actions are any indication.

EDIT: Maybe one of our resident Laker fans could help us out in trying to figure out where Buss might be coming from? (HINT, Gargy!!!)

You called it right w/ Buss. Figure it this way: when Magic retired, attendance dropped by an average of a couple thousand from 92-95, and they had a nice little team in 95 to boot, which indicates that the LA market is more star-driven than others.

Otoh, when Shaq was traded they didn't falter in home attendance or even in road attendance one bit, not even when they missed the playoffs in 2005. The difference is Kobe. Kobe realizes that and he feels used. No way in hell Buss is going to take a prolonged hit at the turnstyles by trading him, and from a biz perspective, who could blame him? Even if they could get equal value from Chicago (no chance), attendance would predictably start to drop because Ben Gordon and Thabo Sefolosha = yawns in this market.

As to the LT, taking it deeper into the playoffs means extra revenue which could offset some of that hit. I'm not too keen on how playoff revenues are shared between teams, but I understand that getting the WCFs = millions of dollars.
 
Just saw on Sportscenter Ric Bucher says that Kobe's "camp" is saying even if the Lakers trade for Garnett that Kobe still wants out of LA. He doesn't care who they get he wants out of LA.
 
Just saw on Sportscenter Ric Bucher says that Kobe's "camp" is saying even if the Lakers trade for Garnett that Kobe still wants out of LA. He doesn't care who they get he wants out of LA.

Then Kobe is an even bigger fool than I've believed.

He'd better be very careful what he wishes for. There are a lot of things that could be worse than being a member of the LA Lakers.
 
Then Kobe is an even bigger fool than I've believed.

He'd better be very careful what he wishes for. There are a lot of things that could be worse than being a member of the LA Lakers.


At this point I think he's probably too embarrassed by everything he's said and by the way he's acted...:o
 
The reported rumor on ESPN is as so...

Pacers get: Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum
Lakers get: KG
Boston gets: JO
Minny: And get ready for this because it is hilarious...
Al Jefferson, Wally, and a 5th pick... Oh I'm sure Minny is jumping on that one.
 
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The reported rumor on ESPN is as so...

Pacers get: Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum
Lakers get: KG
Boston gets: JO
Minny: And get ready for this because it is hilarious...
Al Jefferson, Wally, and a 5th round pick... Oh I'm sure Minny is jumping on that one.
I'm assuming that's Boston's 5th pick in the first round, not a 5th round pick? Fifth pick isn't too bad.
 
Here is the deal as reported on on other message boards I have seen:

Lakers would get Kevin Garnett
Pacers would get Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom
Celtics would get Jermaine O'Neal
Wolves would get Al Jefferson,Wally Szcerbiak,Sebastin Telfair,Theo Ratliff, and the 5th pick

Why in the World would Boston do this? There has to be another player in the deal for them, most likely from LA or MINN. This seems like a very convenient deal for LA and MINN. I just don't see what Indiana and Boston get.
 

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