Kreidler: Overstepping their bounds?

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Mark Kreidler: Overstepping their bounds?
Maloofs upsetting balance that made Kings great
By Mark Kreidler -- Bee Columnist
Published 2:15 am PST Sunday, January 29, 2006

For the longest time, what the Maloof brothers brought to the Kings was an almost exquisite understanding of the difference between having money and having wisdom. It was an understanding that brokered a franchise revival.

Things hummed along, actually. Geoff Petrie and his basketball advisers handled the acquisition of talent. Rick Adelman put the talent to use in a system designed to accommodate specific types of athletes. The players themselves were more or less left to their own devices, allowed wide latitude as individuals and eccentrics.

And Joe and Gavin Maloof did what they do best: They brought their enthusiasm, their business savvy and their bank account. They front-loaded their investment in salary and upgrades to the physical plant at and around Arco Arena. They showed up constantly. They cheer-led. They radiated positive vibes.

Significantly, the Maloofs also seemed instinctively to understand what not to do. They didn't pretend to possess some vast and intricate basketball knowledge. They weren't Mark Cuban in Dallas. They gave Petrie a wide berth to do his thing, and supported him with virtually no conditions. Most important, they never allowed any voice but Petrie's on hoops matters.
It was, upon reflection, a golden era in the franchise's history.

And, increasingly, it appears to be over.

The Maloofs' gaffe on ESPNews last week, in which they all but announced the Ron Artest trade before speaking with either Artest or Peja Stojakovic, capped a year in which the brothers (and, by extension, the family) have become more actively involved - seldom to the good - in the areas of the Kings' operations they once avoided.

Twice now, that involvement has led directly to embarrassment, first when the Maloofs allowed the Kings to be played for fools in the Phil Jackson coaching escapade and then again when the Artest deal blew up, leaving hurt feelings and ill will scattered in the aftermath.

Stojakovic mostly took the high road about not being contacted by Kings management while the deal was going down, but in a couple of interviews, notably one with ESPN.com, he made it clear he didn't appreciate being treated like chattel after more than seven years of organizational service. He was dead right about that. It was, for lack of a better word, unprofessional.

The Kings came off looking disorganized and desperate, almost the film negative of the careful, considered (and usually successful) image Petrie spent years cultivating. It wasn't what the Maloofs intended. But that's the downside of going where you don't belong.

The most difficult thing in sports, for most front-office executives, is figuring out how to gently keep ownership at arm's length on personnel decisions. The list of owners who actually have a deep enough knowledge of the sport and its dynamics to have a positive effect on personnel, at this point, is pretty much restricted to Cuban - and he's a freak, in the sense that he actually spends the majority of his time being an NBA owner.

The Maloofs have gone the other way in recent years. They've added a recording company and a film/television production company to their résumés, in addition to their growing beer and liquor distributorships and their Las Vegas hotel and casino.

They've almost got more pies than they have fingers to stick in them.

At the same time, though, they've become selectively more involved in certain Kings matters. Or, to put it another way, they come blasting through the door when it's least expected - and, so far, least helpful.
Whether this has put a strain on their relationship with Petrie is an open question. Those close to the executive say Petrie genuinely likes both brothers and is inclined to give them a pass on any mistakes of "enthusiasm," and there is no question that their time together with the Kings has produced more radiant moments than clunkers.

On the other hand, the Artest deal was troublesome if it signaled a new level of upfront involvement by the Maloofs, an attempt by them to essentially reconfigure the roster themselves. That's a path to ruin that is already strewn with the carcasses of failed sports owners past, no matter how fanatical any of them considered themselves when it came to their teams.

"Our working relationship has been great on all this kind of thing," Petrie said last week on the day the Artest trade finally came through. "We work together.

"We haven't ever done anything (like this) when there wasn't a true consensus at the end. It has always been a very collective process, and this one wasn't any different."

For their part, the Maloofs spent much of Wednesday reasserting Petrie's authority as the general manager after undermining that very authority with their TV appearance Tuesday. The brothers may have turned down some national interviews, but judging by their appearances on ESPN (twice), Fox Sports and TNT, in addition to their pregame session with the mass media in New York, you'd be hard-pressed to say which.

Generally, Joe and Gavin want it known that Geoff is the basketball guy. Problem is, they've twice now made Petrie look like a person along for the ride.

The Phil Jackson episode was so odd that it probably deserves its own asterisk. The Kings' season had just ended with a disappointing first-round playoff loss to Seattle, and Petrie had just undergone an angioplasty procedure and was laid up in the hospital when all the action occurred.

But it's still instructive. The Maloofs contacted Jackson's agent mostly after listening to people whisper in their ear that Jackson would seriously consider coming to Sacramento (one of the brothers' charms is also one of their potential pitfalls: they earnestly solicit advice from all over, and much of it isn't worth the time it takes to repeat). They didn't wait to speak to Petrie. They pounded ahead.

Veteran sports logic suggests that any agent playing the field for his client is going to make such a contact public, and, sure enough, the Maloof connection became known almost immediately. It didn't help that the Maloofs, with Petrie unavailable to them, went to a newspaper writer to secure the agent's phone number. Did they think they had a secret?

The story broke, yet even after it did, the Maloofs failed to contact Adelman, an ordinary courtesy. Adelman was left twisting in the wind, a horrible public image for the coach who had just taken the franchise to its fifth consecutive 50-victory season.

And, in the end, it was a shell game. Jackson never considered Sacramento a destination. He wrote an entire chapter's epilogue to his book "The Last Season" in which he discussed his decision to return to coaching the Lakers, and he mentioned only the New York Knicks as a serious other contender for his services.

Petrie shrugged off the Jackson debacle as unique, and he reminded anyone who asked him that the owners have every right to inquire about a potential coach. But the Artest deal also seems to have the Maloofs' fingerprints on it.

Donnie Walsh, the Pacers' top basketball executive, suggested this in an ESPN interview, saying Petrie had told him the Maloofs "were big fans of Artest" and wanted to explore a trade.

Petrie, while discussing the anatomy of the deal only in the vaguest of terms, did allow that the Maloofs' involvement "doesn't always happen as early as it did" in this case. And even if it's impossible to believe Petrie would make a trade he didn't want (and while acknowledging that dealing Stojakovic makes sense on any number of levels), there is no question that the impetus on Artest did not come from Petrie. That was a Maloof production.

It is also, historically speaking, a descending elevator. The book on heavily involved owners who actually do good on behalf of active rosters is remarkably slender.

Petrie knows that. He also knows, as the Maloofs know, that the best years of their Kings' tenure came with Petrie controlling virtually all of the basketball decisions and Joe and Gavin minding the bigger picture - their overall salary commitment, infrastructure, marketing and promotions, fan satisfaction.

Of course, that was then, when every move seemed to work and winning seasons followed one after the other. Now the water has gone choppier, and the Maloofs have people whispering in their ears louder than ever before. To whom they ultimately listen is the question.

Whether the Artest-Stojakovic trade proves out one way or the other, the overt involvement of the Kings' owners in it opens a new chapter in their relationship with the basketball executive who made their money and passion amount to wins and attention. It may be Geoff Petrie's greatest challenge yet: trying to persuade his owners, in a time of franchise transition, that the old way is still the right one.

About the writer: Reach Mark Kreidler at (916) 321-1149 or mkreidler@sacbee.com
 
And, still again, Kreidler takes the time to get the facts and then presents them to us for our review and discussion.

I honestly thought it was just the off-again part of the trade that Peja hadn't known about. I apologize to those who tried to point out otherwise if I came across too strongly.

This article is one that really needs to be read and read again ... and given some time to digest.

Personally, I'm not sure I like the idea of the Maloofs becoming more hands on if it means such a lack of respect and decency to our own players and coaches.
 
Kreidler is awesome, but there is so much innuendo and speculation in this article I had a hard time taking anything from it. Kreidler thinks he sees the Maloofs fingerprints on the deal, but he doesn't really have any proof. Petrie has gone on record saying basically that they wouldn't have done this if everyone wasn't in agreement.
 
The Maloofs make mistakes. Most people do. They are very ordinary in that respect. Wealth does not make an individual wise or perfect. I choose to let it go and move on. I only wish that Adelman would be convinced to stay with huge allotments of cash. I am certain that he is as good as gone. I shall give up on the Maloofs if they move the Kings to Las Vegas.
 
Adelman deserves better treatment, but this is professional sports. He should have a thicker skin. And I don't understand the implications of Adelman "twisting in the wind": does that make it understandable if he coaches poorly? Players are told to honor their contracts when they complain about poor treatment. (On the other hand, given the players' ginormous salaries, there is a tendency for coaches not to get a lot of respect, so it's nice that they get it from somewhere.)

The Artest and Adelman situations are different. The trade was mishandled, but let's see how it goes. Peja's hurt feelings are moot, given that, like Adelman, I assume he was going to leave anyway.

Mark Cuban does hire people to do the basketball thinking for him. He puts himself out there too much, but his blog is amusing, and if I had that kind of money, I would be everywhere.
 
nbrans said:
Kreidler is awesome, but there is so much innuendo and speculation in this article I had a hard time taking anything from it. Kreidler thinks he sees the Maloofs fingerprints on the deal, but he doesn't really have any proof. Petrie has gone on record saying basically that they wouldn't have done this if everyone wasn't in agreement.

Just because he doesn't lay it out in black and white, as in "I know this happened because...", I wouldn't be too quick to assume he doesn't have any proof.

Kreidler rarely writes anything without a very strong basis in fact, unlike some other columnists we might name...
 
VF21 said:
Just because he doesn't lay it out in black and white, as in "I know this happened because...", I wouldn't be too quick to assume he doesn't have any proof.

Kreidler rarely writes anything without a very strong basis in fact, unlike some other columnists we might name...

I think Kriedler is the best writer on the Bee, but I would want to see proof even from him instead of just assuming he knows exactly how everything went down.
 
That's your choice, Team Dime. I respect Kreidler's integrity and know his reputation well enough to know he's not the type to simply grab things out of the air.

He writes his columns with the full knowledge that some will believe him and others won't. But he is under NO obligation to cite source every single thing he writes. No journalist is and especially not columnists.

Would you have preferred the vague, innocuous "sources close to the organization" comment? Would that have given you more reason to believe?

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Peace.
 
VF21 said:
That's your choice, Team Dime. I respect Kreidler's integrity and know his reputation well enough to know he's not the type to simply grab things out of the air.

He writes his columns with the full knowledge that some will believe him and others won't. But he is under NO obligation to cite source every single thing he writes. No journalist is and especially not columnists.

Would you have preferred the vague, innocuous "sources close to the organization" comment? Would that have given you more reason to believe?

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Peace.

He's a very good writer, alot better that some other writer for the Bee (name rhymes with Poison). All I'm saying is, yea, he doesn't have to cite all his sources, but the less he does it, the more people are going to question what he says. That's just human nature. He probably wouldn't make stuff up out of thin air, but perhaps he heard bits and pieces of the story and created his interpretation of what happened based on it.
 
Columnists do not cite sources. If they say anything, it's unnamed.

And I'm just a little curious...what parts of this story exactly are you finding hard to believe? I've read it three times now and I see some pretty good journalism with very little personal bias.

Care to point out what I'm missing?
 
I like Kreidler but I'm not so sure I agree with everything in this article. For one thing the Maloofs had clearly sent the signal at least 3 seasons ago that they were in a cost cutting mode which dictated what Petrie was and wasn't able to do. We went from one of the deepest teams in the league to a team with a great starting five (on paper) and one of the worst benches (on the court where it counts.)

I also disagree with his statement that Cuban is the only owner competent enough to make basketball decisions.

I'll certainly accept that the Maloofs may have made a few PR blunders in the past year but I do think that both pursuing Jackson and the Artest deal are sound basketball moves.
 
The old way? The "old" had us moving fast to the lotto. We need(ed) defense. Petrie, or whoever put this team together before this season obviously wasn't thinking "defense".
 
I've met Kreidler on several occasions, and can't really say I've thought much of his opinion in the past(something I told him to his face). But this past year he has really been writing good, well thought out pieces. I'm not one of those people that needs to see black and white proof of every thing that happens for me to form my opinions(especially since a lot goes on behind the scenes with this team). I've watched the Kings for many years now and haven't missed a single minute of any game in over 6 years. I have read, listened to, or watched as much as I could on this team during that time. I form my opinions based on facts, but to me at least it's obvious to see the Maloofs are taking a more active role, the Phil Jackson thing was obvious, as Petrie was in the hospital at the time, but these latest flubs just aren't calculated, or quiet... the way Petrie does business. Petrie may very well have wanted this trade, especially considering how the Webber trade was working out... but I'm sure he cringed as he watched the Maloofs on National TV, giggling and hinting at what was to occur before the deal was even done yet(I know I did). The Maloofs aren't helping this team any with their antics, I think that is the whole point of Kreidlers piece... and he's right.
 
--Found this quote from the Indy Star.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/SPORTS04/601290459/1088


--Looks like Gavin is on record saying it was the Maloofs that instigated the trade at least.
--This is is a small excerpt from a longer article.

"We had been going back and forth," Gavin recalled before Friday's game in Boston, where Artest made his debut with the Kings. "George finally said, 'Let's take a chance.' I got on the phone and talked to Joe and we decided to call (general manager Geoff Petrie) and get this trade done."

--That's a direct quote folks.
 
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KP said:
--Found this quote from the Indy Star.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/SPORTS04/601290459/1088


--Looks like Gavin is on record saying it was the Maloofs that instigated the trade at least.
--This is is a small excerpt from a longer article.

"We had been going back and forth," Gavin recalled before Friday's game in Boston, where Artest made his debut with the Kings. "George finally said, 'Let's take a chance.' I got on the phone and talked to Joe and we decided to call (general manager Geoff Petrie) and get this trade done."

--That's a direct quote folks.
Its their chance to take. At least they are showing that they are not giving up and will do ANYTHING to win.
 
SacTownKid said:
Its their chance to take. At least they are showing that they are not giving up and will do ANYTHING to win.
I completely agree with you STK^. It's just the proof that their fingerprints are all over this deal, straight from Gavins mouth.
 
KP said:
I completely agree with you STK^. It's just the proof that their fingerprints are all over this deal, straight from Gavins mouth.
Did you see the preview for that new Ahmad Rashad show? You're right, they were the ones calling all the shots. No doubt.
 
The Maloofs are meddling? Good. At least someone in the front office wants to win then, instead of simply prove that their "system" works. Kreidler's last article hinted, and this one confirms, that Petrie screwed the pooch on this season's team. I have no idea why Petrie thought Peja/Miller/Bibby was going to work, and I will never understand what made him think Peja had the character to be a leader. But he thought both those things, was shown clear evidence to the contrary, and it still took the Maloofs interceding to initiate the Artest deal. Barring a trade for a big man before 23 Feb, I have lost all confidence in Petrie. I think Kreidler is softening us up for the real shocker that's coming at the end of the season: both Adelman AND Petrie will be departing.
 
Before we turn this into an all our Maloof vs. Petrie debacle lets also remember that its a team effort. I don't think we can read anything into Petrie or Adelman being fired. As far as I know Geoff Petrie is going to be the Kings GM for awhile.
 
If it's my money being spent and all I have to show for 7-8 years of effort is one trip to the Western Conference Finals you bet I become involved...but as low profile as possible. Now, Geoff is total stealth when it come to player acquisitions as we all know and, overall, you can't fault that approach. But the Maloofs like being high profile, yet for the most part know when to be quiet. The media attention to this transaction was beyond intense and, from the time we became involved, all of the rumours were coming out of Indy via Peter Vescey and his inside contacts. The quote above about Gavin calling his brothers and saying "let's do it" as I recall was after they were intially turned down by Ron's agent and the whole world knew about it already.
 
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