Kingsfans At The Movies: Island Movie Thread Poll FINALS

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Finals Rules:
Well this is it, the big kahuna, the grand finale, the penultimate Movie Thread moment: The Finals. Cue inspirational music. And in a slight change from the originally intended rules, I am thinking its the Finals so no more screwing around: vote for ONE movie, your favorite, and let's see how it turns out.


POLL CLOSES FRIDAY, SEP 4th, 12midnight PT
 
***PRESS RELEASE***

Despite not making it past the third week and drawing more interest from America. The Romcom of Doom - The Chance(s) of a Lifetime has drawn appreciation from another source; The Academy.

The Chance(s) of a Lifetime has been nominated for 8 Academy Awards including best picture, best actress and best supporting actor.




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Hrmm... I can't decide; was there enough support to justify a theater release of the second leg of the trilogy? Or straight to DVD? :(
 
Finals Rules:
Well this is it, the big kahuna, the grand finale, the penultimate Movie Thread moment: The Finals. Cue inspirational music. And in a slight change from the originally intended rules, I am thinking its the Finals so no more screwing around: vote for ONE movie, your favorite, and let's see how it turns out.


POLL CLOSES FRIDAY, SEP 4th, 12midnight PT

If I might suggest something?

I don't think the finals should have carry-over votes included. My suggestion would be that you start the films equal...otherwise the tallies are pretty much stacked in favor of the #1 seed already.
 
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Certainly better than The Hunting of the Snark - It's:

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PS. Vote for me and I'll mow your lawn.
 
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See Ender's Game again!

Specially made with 5 separate soundtracks, it's a different, enriching, and vibrant experience each time!

Now playing in IMAX 3D
 
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From the visionary mind of Orson Scott Card, and the graphic novels by Frank Miller comes an exceptional story of an extraordinary child...

Ender’s Game

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Cast:
Elijah Wood -- Ender Wiggin (American)/Achilles de Flandres (Belgian)
Jennifer Connelly -- Valentine Wiggin/Mind Fantasy Game Voice (American)/Formic Queen (Alien)
Christian Bale -- Peter Wiggin (American)/Crazy Tom (British)
Jodie Foster -- Theresa Wiggin (American)/General Pace (Australian)
Sean Penn --John Paul Wiggin (American)/Major Anderson (American)

Sir Ben Kingsley -- Colonel Hyrum Graff (Indian)/Rose de Nose (Israeli)
Dev Patel -- Julian "Bean" Delphiki (Greek)/Bernard (French)
Lucy Liu -- Petra Arkannian (Chinese)/Sister Carlotta (Spanish)
Cliff Curtis -- Alai (Egyptian)/Mazer Rackham (Maori)
John Cho -- Han Tzu (Korean)/Shen (Japanese)
River Phoenix -- Dink Meeker (Dutch)/Stilson (American)
Javier Bardem -- Bonzo Madrid (Spanish)/Carn Carby (Australian)

Robert Zemeckis -- Director
Frank Miller – Writer/Producer


Roger Ebert Reviews Ender’s Game:

"Ender’s Game" is set in a future where humankind experiences large-scale confrontations with an insectoid alien race called Formics (or Buggers). During two separate invasions the Formics nearly wipe out humanity. As a result, the nations of the world enter a shaky alliance to combat the Formics with the formation of an international military unit, the International Fleet (IF). In the futuristic setting, humankind develops interstellar travel, faster-than-light communication (derived from the ansible from Ursula K. Le Guin's works), various new weapons and defense mechanisms, and control over gravity. Earth is governed by three separate bodies, the Hegemony, the Polemarch, and the Strategos, which compete for dominance during the war.

The story of this movie follows two main characters as they struggle with social hazing, and rigorous military training to destroy The “Buggers”. The irony of the film is that the boys defeat the alien race through increasing their understanding of their own tactical strategies and innate human nature. Human nature is looked upon very objectively in the film, as through the eyes of a child, and we're left to witness it's brutality and benevolence. Ender is the true hero of the movie, while Bean is equally heroic, yet often plays second fiddle as he lacks the natural ability to lead, which Ender possesses.

Most of the story focuses around the Battle School, a space station used as a military training complex for children. The IF tests all children on Earth and selects the brightest for the Battle School military training. Students are organized into forty-one man armies and assigned to conduct simulated battles in micro gravity (called "null gravity" in the film). Upon graduation, students move on to either Tactical School, Combat School, Pre-Command School or Command School with three years in Pre-Command. The Battle School forms in response to the need of highly skilled officers for the wars against the Formics, and most of the officers in the IF pass through the school at one time. The battle room scenes are meticulously detailed and action packed, with the use of 3D frequently eliciting oos and ahs from the audience. I was much more impressed with the subtle use of 3D shots in this film, which are truly awe inspiring.

The visuals in this movie are stunning, and a testament to the genius of a filmmaker Robert Zemeckis' skill at integrating effects to create vistas never before seen on film. Where CGI normally detracts from the story, the opposite is true here. This film uses it in subtle, yet brilliant ways to give us insights into the inner workings of these child prodigies. I particularly appreciated the decision to use the graphic user interface blips to show what the characters were thinking about, and how they were rationalizing the madness around them. This intensifies the drama, yet also gives great opportunity to comedic moments in an overall dark film.

The drama is what makes this movie a must see, as it gives great insight into human nature with each character. The film tells the tale through several perspectives simultaneously, letting the audience experience both being the bully, and the bullied. While Ender is the main character of the film, we see his wrinkles and failings as well. The true intentions of each party are understood with remarkable clarity, and not since Schindler’s List have I connected with both the victim and the tormentor so equally well.

Throughout the film, we follow Bean’s character through his personal struggles against the IF administration, who seems bent on breaking Ender down. Bean has to contend with his own struggle to understand Ender's thought processes, and to truly understand human nature to solve his own problems and confront his brutal past. Ender is looked upon more heroically than Bean, as he is governed by empathy, where Bean is governed by survival instinct and cold logic. This gives Ender the natural ability to lead, while further isolating him from the friends and family that he loves.

I was familiar with the book, and I liked it, somewhat, but the movie is far superior on several levels. It has all the fun of an action movie, the epic scope of science fiction, the dialogue of great comedy, and the interpersonal struggles and triumphs of a great drama. This film is a masterpiece that must be seen to be believed.

I give this film the highest rating, and I can’t wait to see it a second, or third time. Ender's Game is not just a summer blockbuster, but a genre all of its own; a true pioneer of a film many years ahead of it's time.

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More About The Film:
Following his blockbuster successes 300 and Sin City, writer/producer Frank Miller penned a graphic novel series based on the science fiction cult classic novel Ender’s Game. The graphic novels merged two books, Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow, to tell a more complete, and psychologically introspective story from several perspectives simultaneously. This series became the backbone for a screenplay, also written by Miller, that was purchased for production by Robert Zemeckis.

These two filmmaking icons collaborated in the production of this film, creating epic shots, never seen before in the history of cinema, and creating an award winning human drama.

Robert Zemeckis chose to cast characters for dual roles to further the theme of Ender's isolation in the film. Ender's friends and enemies are the tools that he uses to train his body and mind in his quest to defend himself, and in so doing, defend mankind.

The visual effects for the movie evolved from the blue screen processes of 300 and Sin City, and merged with the performance capture technology innovated by Robert Zemeckis in The Polar Express and Beowulf. This allowed the filmmakers to tell a graphic, adult story involving children while utilizing adults as actors rather than kids. The actors each wore hundreds of computer sensing patches to mimic their facial and bodily movements precisely, and performed with wire props in front of a blue screen. Their performances were captured digitally in 3D, and overlaid with CGI to make the characters into children. As the movie advances, the characters age several years (some from age 6 to age 60). This technology allowed them to do this seamlessly without losing any quality in the acting performance.

Furthermore, the filmmakers used their visual effects to add insight into the psychological workings of their characters. They incorporated graphic user interface (G.U.I.) effects, which were first used in the Will Ferrell film Stranger Than Fiction, to chronicle the mental calculations and inner workings of the child geniuses, as well as their adult teachers and commanding officers.

Not only did they incorporate a large amount of performance capture and blue screen technology, but they also pioneered a new audio innovation utilizing blue tooth technology. The team recorded 5 separate soundtracks to the film, specifically including thought voice-overs by prominent characters. There is a soundtrack for the general audience (including Ender’s thought-overs), and 4 additional soundtracks, each including thought voice-overs from Bean, Petra/Valentine, Ender’s Enemies, and the Adults in the film respectively. This enabled the audience to view the film from 5 separate perspectives (as they could switch between soundtracks or listen to separate soundtracks during separate viewings) giving it a new viewing experience each time, and amazing insight as to the thought processes and rationale of the characters in the film.

Ordered in mass, each headset costs a mere $3.50 (with the cost made up by a single ticket sale) and each receives a signal from a transceiver as the movie plays. The headsets include a 3D visor and surround sound audio wireless receivers, each equipped with their own individual channel changer. The audience can easily switch their audio channel using a cord on the side of the visor. This revolutionary technology has allowed normal theaters to incorporate the IMAX movie going experience at a very low cost. This film will be released for theaters in normal and 3D versions.
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Notable Quotes:

“I have to win this now, and for all time, or I’ll fight it every day and it will get worse and worse.”
- Ender

"I've watched through his eyes, I've listened through his ears, and I tell you he's the one."
- Colonel Graff

"...But when it comes to human beings, the only type of cause that matters is final cause, the purpose. What a person had in mind. Once you understand what people really want, you can't hate them anymore. You can fear them, but you can't hate them, because you can always find the same desires in your own heart."
- Bean

“I won't lie now, either. My job isn't to be friends. My job is to produce the best soldiers in the world. In the whole history of the world. We need a Napoleon. An Alexander. Except that Napoleon lost in the end, and Alexander flamed out and died young. We need a Julius Caesar, except that he made himself dictator, and died for it. My job is to produce such a creature, and all the men and women he'll need to help him. Nowhere in that does it say that I have to make friends with children. “
- Colonel Graff

“As a species, we have evolved to survive. And the way we do it is by straining and straining and, at last, every few generations, giving birth to genius. The one who invents the wheel. And light. And flight. The one who builds a city, a nation, an empire.... Human beings are free except when humanity needs them. Maybe humanity needs you. To do something. There's only one thing that will make them stop hating you. And that's being so good at what you do that they can't ignore you."
- Colonel Graff to Ender

“There is no help for me. Whatever I face, now and forever, no one would save me from it. Peter might be scum, but Peter was right, always right; the power to cause pain is the only power that matters, the power to kill and destroy, because if you can't kill you are always subject to those who can, and nothing and no one will ever save you.”
- Ender

“This was supposed to be a game. Not a choice between my own grisly death and an even worse murder. I’m a murderer, even when I play. Peter would be proud of me.”
- Ender

“Perhaps it's called the end of the world because it's the end of the games, because I can go to one of the villages and become one of the little boys working and playing there, with nothing to kill and nothing to kill me, just living there.” As he thought of it, though, he could not imagine what "just living" might actually be. He had never done it in his life. But he wanted to do it anyway.
- Ender/Mind Fantasy Game Narrator

“The wise are not wise because they make no mistakes. They are wise because they correct their mistakes as soon as they recognize them.”
- Bean

(Major Anderson) "I went back through some of the tapes. I can't help it. I like the kid. I think we're going to screw him up."
(Colonel Graff) "Of course we are. It's our job. We're the wicked witch. We promise gingerbread, but we eat the little bastards alive."
- Anderson and Graff exchange

"Fairness is a wonderful attribute, Major Anderson. It has nothing to do with war."
- Colonel Graff

"You don’t have to eat the entire turd to know that it’s not a crab cake."
- Bean

"With Ender, we have to strike a delicate balance. Isolate him enough that he remains creative--otherwise he'll adopt the systems here and we'll lose him. At the same time, we need to make sure he keeps a strong ability to lead."
- Colonel Graff

"It's the teachers, they're the enemy. They get us to fight each other, to hate each other."
- Bean

(Ender) "Being here alone with nothing to do, I've been thinking about myself, too. Trying to understand why I hate myself so badly"
(Valentine) "No, Ender."
(Ender) "Don't tell me 'No. Ender.' It took me a long time to realize that I did, but believe me, I did. Do. And it came down to this: In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then is the very moment I also love him. I think it's impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them-"
(Valentine) "You beat them."
(Ender) "No, you don't understand. I destroy them. I make it impossible for them to ever hurt me again. I grind them and grind them until they don't exist."
- Ender and Valentine exchange

"Human beings didn't evolve brains in order to lie around on lakes. Killing's the first thing we learned. And a good thing we did, or we'd be dead, and the tigers would own the earth."
- Valentine to Ender

"I am your enemy, the first one you've ever had who was smarter than you. There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you. I am your enemy from now on. From now on, I am your teacher."
- Mazer Rackham to Ender

"Humanity does not ask us to be happy. It merely asks us to be brilliant on its behalf. Survival first, then happiness as we can manage it."
- Mazer Rackham to Ender

“I don't care if I pass your test, I don't care if I follow your rules. If you can cheat, so can I. I won't let you beat me unfairly - I'll beat you unfairly first.”
- Ender

“I didn’t want to kill them all. I didn’t want to kill anybody! I’m not a killer! You didn’t want me, you bastards, you wanted Peter, but you made me do it, you tricked me into it!”
- Ender

"In all the world, the name of Ender is one to conjure with. The child-god, the miracle worker, with life and death in his hands. Every petty tyrant-to-be would like to have the boy, to set him in front of an army and watch the world either flock to join or cower in fear."
- Colonel Graff

"Welcome to the human race. Nobody controls his own life, Ender. The best you can do is choose to be controlled by good people, by people who love you."
- Valentine to Ender

"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it."
- Ender to Valentine

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I've got to give you major props, Jespher, win or lose. You have put forth an incredible effort for this draft.

Very nice job.
 
Well, this is tough. I mean really really tough. The 3 finalists were my 3 favorite movies out of the lot. I used a scoring system (my own crude one) to originally rate all the movies. The 3 finalists came out with the same score.

Spike, I had a lot of fun helping you while you were gone, and I think this would be a hilarious movie.

Jespher, the amount of effort you put into this is admirable, and I like the premise...a lot.

NME, I have loved watching good westerns all my life. And, because it is perhaps my favorite genre, and the actors chosen were near perfect, you are getting my vote.
 
I didn't think we were voting for ourselves, but as the other two finalists already did, now it's even in any case.


I've got to give you major props, Jespher, win or lose. You have put forth an incredible effort for this draft.

Very nice job.

*Cough* Even though the story, characters and quotes were all already written. ;)
 
Blood Valley

As the ultimate movie geek, Director Quentin Tarantino was psyched to have the opportunity to select actors from the time-stream to populate his latest project. He decided to try his hand at the genre that was his favorite as a child, the Western. More specifically, it would be a Rescue Western, where a team of specialists is rounded up to perform a job. This form gives him the flexibility to slot many of his favorite film legends into roles that play off of their film histories and established iconography.

Tarantino has always been influenced by John Woo’s trademark gunplay, but has shied away from attempting shootouts on the scale of Woo’s set pieces himself. Now, he gets to hire the master himself as Second-Unit Director, to stage this film’s action sequences.
He also adds to the technical team Conrad L. Hall, a three-time Oscar winning cinematographer who shot many classics over several decades, including Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and his this project’s spiritual forbear: The Professionals.

While I will synopsize the premise and characters in a sequential and organized manner, Tarantino will use his trademarked flashbacks to reveal elliptical pieces of our characters’ backstories throughout the film.

And now…

Blood Valley

The Premise

As the 20th century approached, George Smith (Jimmy Stewart) staked out a land claim in an area of the unincorporated Southwest that came to be known as Blood Valley by some, due to the reddish hue of the iron-rich soil. He settled there with his wife Anna (Grace Kelly), built a home, and even started a farm in the unforgiving land with the help of irrigation from a nearby river. As a town grew up around him, the rocketing value of Smith’s claim made him a wealthy man, though he refused to extract as much as he could have when selling off plots to the families that came to settle there. If George is the head of the town, then Anna is its heart, spreading light and goodwill wherever she passes.

Into this small town sanctuary enters Charles Cabot (Marlon Brando), a cold-hearted middle-aged industrialist known as “The Godfather of the Gulf” for his sweeping land ownership, mining, railroad and other business concerns across that region. As much as his eye for an investment opportunity, Cabot’s success can be attributed to the numerous lawmen and politicians in his pocket and the army of mercenaries on his payroll, which allow him to operate with impunity.

As he looks to push his influence ever westward, Cabot visits George’s home to make a hefty offer to purchase much of the land surrounding the town. He believes there is great potential for iron mining in the area, and would also set up refining plants on the land. He would also construct a railway to send the metal back east, which would require the nearby river to be dammed and redirected. George turns his offer down flatly, realizing that this would mean the destruction of the town and a betrayal of all of those who had settled there. Cabot’s offers and anger increase as George holds steadfast and the Godfather storms out.

Believing this matter to be behind him, George is distraught to return from a hunting excursion to find his home trashed and wife missing. A messenger arrives with a final offer at a fraction of the original and a deadline. George is determined not to betray the town, whatever his personal cost, and decides to set off after his wife, Winchester rifle in hand. He is stopped by Kitty DeVille (Raquel Welch), proprietor of a brothel just outside of town, and unbeknownst to George, formerly the U.S. answer to Mata Hari.

Kitty reveals her former life of espionage and assassination working off the books for national interests at home and abroad. She can steal a man’s heart, or just as easily stop it from beating with a well-placed throwing dagger. She offers her up own talents and assistance in assembling a team to track down Anna’s location and take revenge on the Godfather. "Mrs. Anna is the only woman in town who ever addressed me as a lady” she says. “Now I'm no lady, to be perfectly honest, but I always appreciated the thought."

The Gang

Using her old contacts, Kitty quickly identifies several skilled guns for hire operating in the local region. The other members of the team include:

Henry Booker (Robert Redford), an expert tracker and horse wrangler who has a talent for communicating with horses that defies rational explanation. He’s also a fair shot with a pistol when called for.

Vito Vega (Robert De Niro), a city-slicker whose sharp suits look out of place in the frontier. Vega comes from a long line of hired killers that would no doubt continue for generations to come. He’s a sadist that often unnecessarily takes a straight-razor to his victims before putting them out of their misery, and is known to cut a rug to the latest ragtime tune. Vega was once worked for the Godfather’s operation but was let go for lack of discipline. After stewing for the last few years up in New Amsterdam, he’s returned to make the big man sorry.

"Mad Dog" Torrance (Jack Nicholson), a demolitions expert who is as unstable as the nitro in his boomsticks, but has a talent for causing the maximum destruction. Some tell tale that he was once perfectly sane until he spent a winter in an isolated mountain-top cabin. Torrance never revealed what happened up there, but whatever it was left him a raving lunatic.

Baron Carnegy (Sir Laurence Olivier), a British noble who once slaked his bloodthirst by challenging duels for even the smallest of infractions. He left his birthright behind and crossed the pond for more reliable game as an assassin for hire in the wild frontier. Some refer to him by the nickname “Baron Carnage” but not within earshot unless they wish to be added to his long list of kills.

“The Dragon” (Bruce Lee), a mysterious visitor from the East who is a hired hand that has never been seen to pick up a gun. Instead, he uses a strange form of combat to dispatch foes with his hands and feet. The gang is skeptical of his usefulness, until they see him close distance on a gunman before he can get off a shot and crush his windpipe with a chop to the throat.

The Gunman (Clint Eastwood), a nameless drifter who was not among those invited by Kitty, but showed up nonetheless to offer his services, because he “heard there’s a job that needs doing.”

The Mission

The gang travels eastward, seeking out the outposts where the Godfather’s men are stationed and fighting their way up the chain. The Godfather’s private army is led by Hawk Cahill (John Wayne), a former Army Captain. Cahill is a grizzled veteran of the Indian Wars and a true leader of men, but was dishonorably discharged for his drinking problem and questionable field tactics.

Meanwhile, the Godfather watches over Anna in his hidden fortress, where she is unharmed (as he considers himself a gentleman) but subjected to his creepy attempts at charming and seducing her.

Along the way there are bloody battles, heroic efforts, sacrifices, and betrayal, until they track down the Godfather to rescue Anna and exact George’s revenge.

When a bad man does a good man wrong, it takes the baddest men around to set things right.
 
*Cough* Even though the story, characters and quotes were all already written. ;)
Was it really that hard for you to picture Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, and John Wayne in a western? Really? Come on now...Seems I had a more original idea in my view. You did pick a great collection of all-stars though. My question is how does your movie hold up over time?
 
Was it really that hard for you to picture Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, and John Wayne in a western? Really? Come on now...Seems I had a more original idea in my view. You did pick a great collection of all-stars though.

Not saying that, but I did have to come up with a premise and roles. I'm not looking for a p****** match here, but I thought it was a little amusing that the multiple commendations for amount of effort were for the project that's based on existing material. In fact, it's almost been made into a movie a couple of times.

My question is how does your movie hold up over time?

As opposed to what? I'm not sure what that means.
 
I didn't think we were voting for ourselves, but as the other two finalists already did, now it's even in any case.




*Cough* Even though the story, characters and quotes were all already written. ;)

My point, however, still stands. He's put in a lot of effort in presenting his flick. My movie was based on characters and a story taken from my favorite author, too, so that doesn't detract from the overall product he's brought to the board.

Having said that, I don't think this needs to turn ugly. Each of the three final films were distinct and eminently viewable, should they ever have actually come to the screen. I'd pay to see each of them...
 
Having said that, I don't think this needs to turn ugly. Each of the three final films were distinct and eminently viewable, should they ever have actually come to the screen. I'd pay to see each of them...

Sorry, it was just something that occurred to me that probably didn't need to be said.

Apologies to Jespher if I offended you. I wasn't meaning to denigrate what you put together.
 
If no one gets over 50% will there be a run off?
There won't be a run off because the winner is shooting for the highest box office (vote) total.

We've still got some time. Come out to see Ender's Game again! It's a new film every time :).

Entertainment Weekly said:
After its major box office success, the team that brought you Ender's Game is proud to announce that they are also working on a Director's Special Edition version of the film; including additional POV (point of view) soundtracks, over 40 minutes of additional video clips, hilarious outtakes, a horrifying alternate ending, and both standard and 3D versions of the film. This feature is set for release on DVD and Blu-Ray October 1st, 2009. Are you game?
 
Bravo, NME!

BTW, I didn't pay all that great of attention but, did Jespher say he pulled an idea from the Akumenical(sp? rusty.) leg of LeGuin's writing? Kudos. I am a big fan of her work.

I voted for the underdog, but this was really a cool draft.
 
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