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In light of pending suspensions for 2 of their 2 pgs. Washingtong may be wanting to add a pg.

Sergio to Washington
Mcgee to Sacramento

why is obvious. Washington is deep at PF/C we are deep at pg. We need a big they now need a pg.

The trade could become bigger. Involving Noc for expiring Mike Miller. Or Beno for expiring Mike James


you can come up with any combo with those 6 players. but in the end I want Mcgee.
 
yeah but I am not worried about what our 3rd pg is doing. If he can net us a young atheletic big like mcgee that is a good shotblocker then you got to cut the cord. Sergio is a FA at the end of the year. We can't offer our 3rd pg what other teams can that want a playmake like him. We should get an asset while we can.
 
I think I would give this one a try. We have Evans and Beno. When Garcia comes back he can fill in in a pinch. McGee is young and unproven, but I would rather have a young big to develope sitting on the bench than have a glut of PG's. It could work out for both teams in the long run. :)
 
I'd love to get McGee. He's a great shotblocker, a good rebounder, and he has a decent mid-range jumpshot.

His biggest problem would be man defense in the post as he needs to get stronger, but he's still just 21 and has a good basketball IQ.
I watched him a good bit in the Vegas Summer league and there were some games where he completely imposed his will with his rebounding, shotblocking, and mid-range game and put-backs.

My only issue with trading Sergio is that it would seem that by trading him, we are locking ourselves into Beno's contract. Beno has been great, but he's been proving over the last few games (and all of last year) that he can't be relied upon to step up as our primary lead guard when Tyreke is out. Not that Sergio is proving that he can step up, but at least his contract is a quarter the size of Beno's.

With that said, if the draft-day trade had been our 31st for the 38th pick and McGee I'd have been elated.

So, this would be a no-brainer for me and I'd trade Sergio for McGee in a heartbeat.
 
I'm not so sold on the idea that Washington is going to be in desperate need of a PG, even if both Arenas and Crittenton are suspended for a significant amount of time. They still have Foye and Boykins, and Mike James just got activated, so they're not hurting badly at the point in terms of manpower.

I also don't really see us trading away Sergio for the time being. Imagine if we didn't have Rodriguez during these past few games when Evans has been hurt - Beno for 48 minutes? It's not like we can just throw Garcia in there for spot minutes right now. Sergio is here for a reason, and that's so that if one of the top two PGs is hurt, we don't have to resort to Greene/Casspi/Udoka/JT for backup minutes at the point.

Aww, heck. JT loves bringing the ball up the floor anyway. Let's give him the emergency PG minutes!
 
Well you have to think to yourself. what is our most pressing issue. Our 3rd pg or our lack of a true 3rd big?
 
In light of pending suspensions for 2 of their 2 pgs. Washingtong may be wanting to add a pg.

Sergio to Washington
Mcgee to Sacramento

why is obvious. Washington is deep at PF/C we are deep at pg. We need a big they now need a pg.

The trade could become bigger. Involving Noc for expiring Mike Miller. Or Beno for expiring Mike James


you can come up with any combo with those 6 players. but in the end I want Mcgee.


The Wizard values McGee like we value Greene/Casspi. They're not just going to give him up for some third string PG or cagey veteran.

Arenas is the one they want to trade away, not the young big with lots of potential.

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Well you have to think to yourself. what is our most pressing issue. Our 3rd pg or our lack of a true 3rd big?

Well, if I was convinced McGee was a true 3rd big it would be different, but it's hard to say he's been impressive this year. There are a large number of scenarios to improve ourselves at the post that I would prefer to try rather than acquiring McGee.
 
Well, if I was convinced McGee was a true 3rd big it would be different, but it's hard to say he's been impressive this year. There are a large number of scenarios to improve ourselves at the post that I would prefer to try rather than acquiring McGee.

Oh well hell yeah. I can think of several myself. This is actually one that makes sense and doesn't cost either team a star. once you get into KT, Noc, Beno then the deals get larger and take longer. This is a deal that is time sensitive.
 
If it were on the table, we'd have to do it. You can always find another serviceable backup PG out there, but long and athletic shotblockers aren't so easy to come by. Unfortunately, even though his man defense and overall game are works in progress, I think the Wizards are still way too high on his potential to part with him.
 
Meh how about Blatche instead? McGee is Loren Woods v2.0

Blatche has shown a lot of flashes of potential, but he doesn't seem to have great Basketball IQ, and it seems as if he thinks his offensive potential is much greater than it really is. Also, though he has good length and looks to have a bigger build and better strength, I'd consider him a lot softer than McGee.

Blatche may be the better overall player or the player with a higher overall upside, but I think that McGee would make this Kings team far better. I liken it to the Okafor/West debate, though both Okafor & West are far better players than either Blatche or McGee.
 
There's been talk about them blowing up the team. Whatever that means to them. Whether they would be willing to trade McGee would probably depend on what their future plans for Brendon Haywood are. Remember, his contract is up at the end of the year and they have no guarantee's that they'll be able to resign him. At least at the decent price their paying him now. Actually, Haywood is exactly the type of center were looking for. Its a shame he's 31 years old.

The point is, that if their willing to let Haywood walk, then I doubt that they would trade McGee. That would leave them with just Batche. I also doubt that they want Nocioni. Most of the talk I've heard is that there looking to dump salary, not aquire it.
 
McGee is awesome. I'm not sure Washington really needs a PG that badly actually (I mean, Foye and Boykins will more than man the ship for them for the time being), and if you're rebuilding you start with cheap young potentialized big men like McGee. I'd be surprised if he was in any deal, especially since Haywood seems like a far more legitimate candidate to be traded at the deadline. But yeah, this is thinking in the right direction, as he's a young big man who shows a foundation of inside scoring and shotblocking, complete with height and athleticism.
 
A deal that they would be more likely to make would be K.T. for Haywood and Stevenson. The problem is that it would only be a short term solution, since Haywood's contract is up at the end of this year. Of course we could always sign him to maybe, a two year contract with a team option for the third. He is a very good defensive player and a decent rebounder. And, he would be a good mentor for our young bigs.

The downside is taking on Stevenson's contract that runs for one more year after this year. Plus Haywood's been a little injury prone of late.
 
McGee has a huge ego. His mom is Pam McGee, a 1984 WNBA all-star and olympic vet. She wouldn't let him work out for any team below #5 in last years draft as she said he thought he was top lottery pick!!! He went #18 to Wizards. Donte was drafted #28 by Rockets

His stats last season up to now all averages:

Min - 14
FT% - 65
Reb - 3.5 (only 1.5 this year)
Ast - 0.3
Blocks - 1.0
TO's - 0.7 (ast/TO ratio = .42 !!!)
Pts - 5.7 (only 2.5 this year)

Not very impressive for a guy 7-1+. In the draft evaluation his weakest points were: strength, leadership, NBA ready and post skills.

No I don't think we want him much less need him. He appears to be 2+ years away from being consistent/dependable off the bench. If he even can be that.
 
McGee has a huge ego. His mom is Pam McGee, a 1984 WNBA all-star and olympic vet. She wouldn't let him work out for any team below #5 in last years draft as she said he thought he was top lottery pick!!! He went #18 to Wizards. Donte was drafted #28 by Rockets

His stats last season up to now all averages:

Min - 14
FT% - 65
Reb - 3.5 (only 1.5 this year)
Ast - 0.3
Blocks - 1.0
TO's - 0.7 (ast/TO ratio = .42 !!!)
Pts - 5.7 (only 2.5 this year)

Not very impressive for a guy 7-1+. In the draft evaluation his weakest points were: strength, leadership, NBA ready and post skills.

No I don't think we want him much less need him. He appears to be 2+ years away from being consistent/dependable off the bench. If he even can be that.

Damm, there goes another one my balloon's being popped..:D
 
Blatche has shown a lot of flashes of potential, but he doesn't seem to have great Basketball IQ, and it seems as if he thinks his offensive potential is much greater than it really is. Also, though he has good length and looks to have a bigger build and better strength, I'd consider him a lot softer than McGee.

Blatche may be the better overall player or the player with a higher overall upside, but I think that McGee would make this Kings team far better. I liken it to the Okafor/West debate, though both Okafor & West are far better players than either Blatche or McGee.

I've watched Blatche and I really like him. It is true that he doesn't have the highest Basketball IQ, but he got the job done when Jamison was out. Tries to do too much on offense sometimes, but can block some shots and force some turnovers
 
McGee is only averaging eight and a half minutes a game. Not much time for a player thats valued. His own mother is asking for him to be moved somewhere he can play. Now I would love to have another young big, but I'm not going to get too excited just yet. He hasn't done anything yet, and summer league counts for squat. None the less, if he could be aquired cheaply, then I'm all for it.
 
The Wizard values McGee like we value Greene/Casspi. They're not just going to give him up for some third string PG or cagey veteran.

Arenas is the one they want to trade away, not the young big with lots of potential.

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McGee has shown flashes..but hes INCREDIBLY athletic for his size and finishes around the rim VERY VERY well...

McGee has MUCH more upside than Hawes

think of him as the C version of Greene.
 
McGee has shown flashes..but hes INCREDIBLY athletic for his size and finishes around the rim VERY VERY well...

McGee has MUCH more upside than Hawes

think of him as the C version of Greene.


Except that Greene can play D and McGee has never heard of it.
 
thought I would revisit this thread after last nights game.

I agree. McGee definitely had an impact in the game.

I saw the same thing earlier in the summer league where he had stretches where he just took control of the game on the defensive end by playing like a big goalie.

He'd have to get stronger to become a better post-defender, but just as we are bringing in Udoka for defensive reasons, he's someone you could bring into the game to help defend the rim.

If Haywood was younger, he'd be a great fit for this team as well. But McGee is young, and as long as he tries to play the role of a great goalie, I'd love to somehow pick him up.
 
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