Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb
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Haliburton.
I don't quite understand why you posed the question, because the answer is obvious. People are upset about trading away Haliburton. It's certainly not anything else in the trade. Not even the Buddy supporters are mad he was traded for Sabonis, and the writing has been on the wall for a year. Nobody is going to miss Thompson. Nobody is mad about getting Holiday (decent value) or Lamb (expiring) back. And nobody dislikes Sabonis at basically $20M per for two seasons on top of the end of this one. Clearly some people value Haliburton (or relatively value Haliburton vs. Sabonis) differently than I suppose you do. But the answer was obvious when you posed the question. What answer did you want?
I don't quite understand why you posed the question, because the answer is obvious. People are upset about trading away Haliburton. It's certainly not anything else in the trade. Not even the Buddy supporters are mad he was traded for Sabonis, and the writing has been on the wall for a year. Nobody is going to miss Thompson. Nobody is mad about getting Holiday (decent value) or Lamb (expiring) back. And nobody dislikes Sabonis at basically $20M per for two seasons on top of the end of this one. Clearly some people value Haliburton (or relatively value Haliburton vs. Sabonis) differently than I suppose you do. But the answer was obvious when you posed the question. What answer did you want?
The idea is the Monte retool has gone quite well, we've broken the playoff curse and we're an ascending playoff team being lead by 26 year old De'Aaron Fox and 27 year old Domantas Sabonis.
I'm fairly certain we get Sabonis full bird rights as well, which lets us go over the cap to keep him as well as an additional year/more money than anyone else. For a guy that's been drastically underpaid during his extension, I'd think a big max deal would be fairly appealing since he hasn't made his bag yet.
I'm fairly certain we get Sabonis full bird rights as well, which lets us go over the cap to keep him as well as an additional year/more money than anyone else. For a guy that's been drastically underpaid during his extension, I'd think a big max deal would be fairly appealing since he hasn't made his bag yet.
Every Kings player who is young and plays well apparently is the savior (Cousins/Fox/Ty/Tyreke) and untouchable, look I as much as anyone wanted Fox gone but reality is with his cancerous contract your not getting anything of value for him in return, Ty while talented is still massively unproven and to get Sabonis you need to give up something good. Like I said before there is nothing easier than finding really good PG's who can compete with any elite PG in the NBA, the majority of the planet is filled with people that are PG size, finding elite wings and to a lesser extent bigs (Sabonis) is way harder.
How many good bigs and wings have the Kings drafted in the last 15 years, as far as bigs its Cousins (maybe Whiteside for a couple Miami seasons) and wings literally no one. PG's they have drafted 3 (Fox/Hali/Thomas/Tyreke was a PG basically in his first season or so).
How many good bigs and wings have the Kings drafted in the last 15 years, as far as bigs its Cousins (maybe Whiteside for a couple Miami seasons) and wings literally no one. PG's they have drafted 3 (Fox/Hali/Thomas/Tyreke was a PG basically in his first season or so).
Oh, I get the apprehension. He's a throwback big man, and not an elite rim protector. He's not a terrible defender, he is the only player on the Pacers that is a plus on offense and defense, according to 538's RAPTOR. If Monte can trade for a more nimble-footed partner for him, then our interior will be fine.
Sabonis is not a great 3-point shooter, but he does have a good elbow jumper, and is in the top 20 for player efficiency, something I feel is being overlooked. He is being this efficient, on a team, that is one of the worst in the NBA in 3-point shooting, bottom 5 bad. Sabonis is a more fleet of foot Cousins with insane efficiency. I know he will become a fan favorite quite quickly.
I will miss Haliburton a lot, but I am excited to see Sabonis. It's insane that Monte was able to get this done without giving up any draft capital.
Sabonis is not a great 3-point shooter, but he does have a good elbow jumper, and is in the top 20 for player efficiency, something I feel is being overlooked. He is being this efficient, on a team, that is one of the worst in the NBA in 3-point shooting, bottom 5 bad. Sabonis is a more fleet of foot Cousins with insane efficiency. I know he will become a fan favorite quite quickly.
I will miss Haliburton a lot, but I am excited to see Sabonis. It's insane that Monte was able to get this done without giving up any draft capital.
The big question for me is... what now? We can't just replace Hali with DBone and expect a major difference. We have to fill the roster with some defense. Shooting. I still think Holmes for Wash makes a ton of sense but the Hornets have lost a bunch in a row and now Hayward is hurt. Are they buyers?
What about
Kings trade Marvin Bagley Harrison Barnes '22 second round pick
Kings receive Jerami Grant Kelly Olynyk
Pistons trade Jerami Grant
Pistons receive Evan Fournier, Marvin Bagley '22 NY first round pick '22 sac second rounder
Knicks trade Evan Fournier
Knicks receive Harrison Barnes
Mitchell Ish Smith
Fox Lamb
Grant Holiday
Washington Olynyk
Sabonis New Dame
What about
Kings trade Marvin Bagley Harrison Barnes '22 second round pick
Kings receive Jerami Grant Kelly Olynyk
Pistons trade Jerami Grant
Pistons receive Evan Fournier, Marvin Bagley '22 NY first round pick '22 sac second rounder
Knicks trade Evan Fournier
Knicks receive Harrison Barnes
Mitchell Ish Smith
Fox Lamb
Grant Holiday
Washington Olynyk
Sabonis New Dame
I strongly suspect this was auto-correct at work but "Superman bird rights" needs to be an actual thing. Or maybe "Super Birdman rights" for the Michael Keaton (or Chris Anderson?) fans.
It could go something like this: If a player...
(A) Has played for or was raised in Indiana* and
(B) Has made exactly 2 All Star teams (no more, no less) and
(C) Is related to a former player whose entire NBA career started and ended in his 30s and
(D) Was recently traded for a universally well-liked budding star who just set a new career high in assists in his last game
Then he may be re-signed only by the team he was traded to and his salary will not count against the salary cap. It's only fair, really.
*(Bonus points if Jerry Reynolds has ever butchered your name on live television.)
It could go something like this: If a player...
(A) Has played for or was raised in Indiana* and
(B) Has made exactly 2 All Star teams (no more, no less) and
(C) Is related to a former player whose entire NBA career started and ended in his 30s and
(D) Was recently traded for a universally well-liked budding star who just set a new career high in assists in his last game
Then he may be re-signed only by the team he was traded to and his salary will not count against the salary cap. It's only fair, really.
*(Bonus points if Jerry Reynolds has ever butchered your name on live television.)
Yeh it might not be the preferred path but there is some upside there. Does Sabonis elevate Fox? Does Deaaron at least get back into the low 30s from 3 while taking more mid range shots? Can Mitchell continue the success he was having as a starter (whoops on tonights game)? Does PJ have untapped potential?
Plus, the proposed trade keeps our first rounders in the the fold.
Plus, the proposed trade keeps our first rounders in the the fold.
