Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!

[SacTownKid]

Something we have to consider too is the last year of Lavine's contract is the first year of Fox's new extension. And the first year of Keegan's extension off his rookie deal. Can we afford Lavine at 48mil, Domas at 45 mil, Fox at what... probably 55 mil and Keegan at 30ish mil? Is that even possible in the new CBA?

You do it if you know for sure that Lavine would you put us in title contention the next 2 years. But he's not even better than Malik Monk, much less having to trade half the rotation to get him as well as likely lose Monk in FA this off-season.

I think by that point the cap will raise to the point where, yes, they could. If the Suns can do what they did and not give a crap, hopefully Vivek would. I mean we're talking 27/28, in terms of NBA years that's a long way off. Look, with the names Monte is looking at, Zach is actually potentially the CHEAPEST option, lol if money is the issue. Would I rather have the Raptor's options? Yes, but I think Zach is the most realistic one, go for it.

 

[upinsmoke]

Yeah but the replacement wing could literally be a min. signing if LaVine pans out.

Nah.

 

[dude12]

Pass on Lavine

 

[funkykingston]

I have no idea what they're doing with Vandy, but they're utterly wasting him. Not in the rotation there, but gave him a 4/48 extension in the off-season? Just the absolute worst spot he can be in too, with how slow they play and the lack of shooting on that team.

He remains the perfect addition for this roster. I think you nailed it; he's the big version of Keon Ellis. Would be no problem flexing him with Sasha and Lyles off the bench and would add the size/rebounding to really make that unit shine.

Would they do Davion+2nd for Vandy? Especially if Vandy isn't in there plans going forward?

Fox
Huerter
Keegs
HB
Domas

Keon
Monk
Sasha
Vandy
Lyles

Insanely good.

Yeah, I especially loved Vandy when he was a low cost option, but he'd still be great even with his new contract.

And Davion needs a change of scenery. I still think he can be a good starting PG - he's shown some real flashes when in the starting lineup - but he's apparently not what Mike Brown wants as a backup. With the Lakers LeBron would take on a lot of the playmaking. I actually like that for both sides.

Not for the Lakers of course. I hate them immensely. But for the Kings and for Davion.

 

[hrdboild]

I’m of the mindset that Keegan should slot into HB’s spot on the court and we should start feeding him the ball more often. I also think that what we need is a better compliment for Sabonis in the front court. Someone that can pick and pop, rebound, and play defense pretty well. An efficient role playing big. I think we are too undersized especially come playoff time and we need to get bigger. Keegan would be a big SF and he’s mobile enough to cover for his size, Domas is not a huge center but most of the time it’s not a problem. We just need someone to slot into that 4 spot. I do realize that this is typically a highly coveted type of player, but you gotta pay to play sometimes.

This is exactly the type of player I would be looking for as well. If we keep HB, he's ideal as a backup SF which gives us some versatility because he can slot in at either forward spot depending on match-ups. A bigger 3-and-D PF is a nearly impossible find, but if we can compromise a bit on the shooting there are several possible additions who can at least shoot the mid-range jumper and can impact the game defensively.

We've been over the names already of defensive PFs who might fill that role for us for the past couple years. I haven't been following the rest of the league closely enough to identify any new underrated potential trade targets but a couple guys that's liked in the recent past are Usman Garuba (currently on a two-way contract with Golden State and yet to play a minute for them in the NBA) and Onyeka Okongwu (signed a 4yr/$62 million extension in the off-season but has been jumped by Jalen Johnson in the rotation and is currently averaging around 24mpg off the bench for a disappointing Hawks team that is on the playoff bubble).

 

[See_Hanks]

We shouldn't be getting players JUST to get players. Replacing a guy like Barnes with a guy like Lavine might make us a worse team.

 

[jiimbob]

I like the above looking into Davion for Vandy ideas. I don’t know why LA isn’t playing him, injuries ?, but from a defensive minded forward perspective he could be a perfect fit here. Also a good friend of our Kentucky alumni.
A low key move that should make a difference.

 

[funkykingston]

I like the above looking into Davion for Vandy ideas. I don’t know why LA isn’t playing him, injuries ?, but from a defensive minded forward perspective he could be a perfect fit here. Also a good friend of our Kentucky alumni.
A low key move that should make a difference.

Mostly injuries this season.

But I'm kind of surprised they re-signed him after he fell out of the starting lineup last year. Even after moving Westbrook the Lakers don't have enough shooting to really space the floor for LeBron and Davis so I get why they made the switch, but I still think Vanderbilt would be a much better fit on the Kings.

 

[Dongoodboy]

Davion for Isaiah Stewart? His extension for 15m/yr could be hefty tho.

 

[dude12]

This team needs another guy who can help matchup with the wings of the Pelicans, Rockets, etc. Keegan isn’t enough. Kessler doesn’t see the floor enough. I think it’s a reason JTA has been brought aboard. We need waves of them.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

This team needs another guy who can help matchup with the wings of the Pelicans, Rockets, etc. Keegan isn’t enough. Kessler doesn’t see the floor enough. I think it’s a reason JTA has been brought aboard. We need waves of them.

Anderson is not nearly the defender that Edwards is...and I remain skeptical that he would have a chance to show much of anything on the offensive side. He's a lateral addition at best.

What I don't like, is this would seem to move Edwards even further to the back of Brown's mind. I still think he should be used in spots as a defensive piece, like he was against Portland, when Jerami Grant had it going

 

[funkykingston]

Anderson is not nearly the defender that Edwards is...and I remain skeptical that he would have a chance to show much of anything on the offensive side. He's a lateral addition at best.

What I don't like, is this would seem to move Edwards even further to the back of Brown's mind. I still think he should be used in spots as a defensive piece, like he was against Portland, when Jerami Grant had it going

Yeah, or last year when Brown through him out on Devin Booker for stretches.

 

[dude12]

Anderson is not nearly the defender that Edwards is...and I remain skeptical that he would have a chance to show much of anything on the offensive side. He's a lateral addition at best.

What I don't like, is this would seem to move Edwards even further to the back of Brown's mind. I still think he should be used in spots as a defensive piece, like he was against Portland, when Jerami Grant had it going

I’d like to see Kessler used more but there must be a reason why Brown doesn’t go to him more…….kind of like Davion getting pushed to the side.

 

[iowamcnabb]

I’m fascinated to see how Monte handles team building going forward. Generally the best players win championships, does McNair believe a core of Fox, Sabonis, Keegan can out shine other teams big 3? Joker Murray MP, Tatum Brown White, SGA Chet JDub, PG Claw Harden, Ant Kat Gobert, Luka Kyrie ?, Zion BI Cj. Some of these teams have great 4th or 5th best guys like Boston (Jrue and Zinger). And when will he push the chips in, now or let this core do its thing one more season before taking the big swing?

 

[Telemachus]

Guys I wouldn't mind seeing the Kings trade for (the top of my list).
OG Annunoby
Tari Eason
Jarrett Allen

 

[macadocious]

I just have a feeling it will be a suprise player. Someone not on anyones radar. I don't know why I feel that.

 

[Section 101]

I just have a feeling it will be a suprise player. Someone not on anyones radar. I don't know why I feel that.

royce o'neale

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I’d like to see Kessler used more but there must be a reason why Brown doesn’t go to him more…….kind of like Davion getting pushed to the side.

The only reason he could have for not going to him, is that he doesn't provide enough offense. Defensively, he's close to our best "wing" defender. Murray might be better than him at this point on that end, buts it not a big separation. If they're looking for a defensive help, Anderson is not it over Edwards.

Davion has lost his spot, because Ellis is just as good a defender with the addition of extra length....as well as being efficient on the offensive side and usually making the right play

 

[206Fan]

We shouldn't be getting players JUST to get players. Replacing a guy like Barnes with a guy like Lavine might make us a worse team.

Lakers are going to give up peanuts for LaVine and end up n a hot run to make it further than the Kings in the playoffs because we didn't want an All-Star SG.

Zach LaVine will excel as the 3rd option. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch the last 3 Kings games where we undoubtedly put up great offensive clinics, but LaVine brings a dynamic on this team that we don't get from all the other players. He brings 3-level scoring and doesn't ride-or-die on his 3pt shot.

 

[Padrino]

Lakers are going to give up peanuts for LaVine and end up n a hot run to make it further than the Kings in the playoffs because we didn't want an All-Star SG.

Zach LaVine will excel as the 3rd option. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch the last 3 Kings games where we undoubtedly put up great offensive clinics, but LaVine brings a dynamic on this team that we don't get from all the other players. He brings 3-level scoring and doesn't ride-or-die on his 3pt shot.

Zach LaVine is a defensive liability. The Kings don't need to add another one of those who will command a starting role and considerable minutes. He's too expensive for how duplicative he is while solving exactly none of the Kings' problems on the other end of the court.

 

[The_Jamal]

Lakers are going to give up peanuts for LaVine and end up n a hot run to make it further than the Kings in the playoffs because we didn't want an All-Star SG.

Zach LaVine will excel as the 3rd option. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch the last 3 Kings games where we undoubtedly put up great offensive clinics, but LaVine brings a dynamic on this team that we don't get from all the other players. He brings 3-level scoring and doesn't ride-or-die on his 3pt shot.

.430 3PAr
.566 TS
.275 FTr

Thats pretty close to living and dying by the 3.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Lakers are going to give up peanuts for LaVine and end up n a hot run to make it further than the Kings in the playoffs because we didn't want an All-Star SG.

Zach LaVine will excel as the 3rd option. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch the last 3 Kings games where we undoubtedly put up great offensive clinics, but LaVine brings a dynamic on this team that we don't get from all the other players. He brings 3-level scoring and doesn't ride-or-die on his 3pt shot.

I agree we need to be careful relying on the 3 but we have 2 months to evaluate how far Keegan has grown before making a decision on a trade (not including him but if we need a third scorer or not) I don’t know if you saw what I posted in the Keegan thread, but he has 23 free throw attempts over his last 5 games. He had 81 total free throws last year. He also had 17 point game where he made zero threes a couple nights ago. I’m not ready to have full confidence in that trend but if he continues mixing up his shots and Brown gives him a few post ups now that he has the internet we might have enough scoring variety between Fox, Domas, Keegan and Monk. Also, as I’m sure you know, we have to send out 30 mil in salary. That would be something like Barnes, Lyles, Duarte and Davion or Kessler. Or both Barnes and KVon which would leave us even lighter at our weakest position (wing)

 

[ESP47]

Kings are the 3rd highest scoring team in the west but 12th in points given up.

We sure they need a 3rd scorer? I'm thinking 3&D is probably more necessary with Monk and Keegan trading 3rd scorer duties lately.

 

[SacTownKid]

.430 3PAr
.566 TS
.275 FTr

Thats pretty close to living and dying by the 3.

LaVine is on a down year but even so, his effective FG% in iso is 46%, last year it was even better than Fox at 55%. LaVine on this season is currently 15% above the 2nd iso option on the Kings in Monk. That's pretty big when you consider the Kings needs.

 

[SacTownKid]

Kings are the 3rd highest scoring team in the west but 12th in points given up.

We sure they need a 3rd scorer? I'm thinking 3&D is probably more necessary with Monk and Keegan trading 3rd scorer duties lately.

The playoffs, that's the bar. The offense could translate this season, but it clearly didn't last season once the playoffs started. Monte is trying to make sure that doesn't happen again.

 

[Padrino]

The playoffs, that's the bar. The offense could translate this season, but it clearly didn't last season once the playoffs started. Monte is trying to make sure that doesn't happen again.

I find it a bit strange that you infer so much about McNair's strategy from so little data. It's something you do consistently. As far as I'm aware, McNair has said nothing about the need to correct offensive issues based on the Kings' performance in the playoffs, and he's made no real moves that address this issue if he, indeed, views it as an issue that cannot be corrected with experience and internal adjustments.

 

[SacTownKid]

I find it a bit strange that you infer so much about McNair's strategy from so little data. It's something you do consistently. As far as I'm aware, McNair has said nothing about the need to correct offensive issues based on the Kings' performance in the playoffs, and he's made no real moves that address this issue if he, indeed, views it as an issue that cannot be corrected with experience and internal adjustments.

I'm simply going by what the media has said about Monte's trade goals and from the reality that Monte attempted to trade for Beal. Will that end up changing? Maybe but this isn't just pulled out of thin air. This is the smoke.

 

[Padrino]

I'm simply going by what the media has said about Monte's trade goals and from the reality that Monte attempted to trade for Beal. Will that end up changing? Maybe but this isn't just pulled out of thin air. This is the smoke.

Attempting to trade for Beal seemed mostly like a buy-low opportunity. The fact that Monte wasn't willing to surrender any real assets for Beal suggests that he's not particularly motivated to shore up some kind of perceived offensive deficiency.

 

[SacTownKid]

Attempting to trade for Beal seemed mostly like a buy-low opportunity. The fact that Monte wasn't willing to surrender any real assets for Beal suggests that he's not particularly motivated to shore up some kind of perceived offensive deficiency.

Regardless of what it's for, Monte has been connected to big name, value talent so far. Beal, LaVine, OG, and Siakam. He's not shooting for role guys so whether that's offensive focused or not, it's what it is. He appears to be going for all star talent.

 

[Padrino]

Regardless of what it's for, Monte has been connected to big name, value talent so far. Beal, LaVine, OG, and Siakam. He's not shooting for role guys so whether that's offensive focused or not, it's what it is. He appears to be going for all star talent.

Sure, but you act as if what you hope will happen with the roster is being authorized by the Kings' GM himself when the only evidence available comes from speculative media reports. The only all-star Monte has traded for during his tenure with the Kings is Domantas Sabonis, a player Monte was not connected to prior to that trade's execution. What the media reports and what is happening behind closed doors are often very different things, so let's not pretend that Monte is obviously star-hunting when the media reports that the Kings are connected to other teams' depreciated assets. We've seen this game played before, where the Kings get used in the media as leverage to secure a better situation for an agent's client.