Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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This is such a strange hill to die on, that you bring it up so frequently. While the midrange can be a high percentage shot depending on who's taking it, it's a rare player indeed (like, say, De'Aaron Fox) that can squeeze enough juice from that particular lemon to make it worthwhile, particularly in the playoffs where efficiencies already shrink due to the intensity of the scouting and intensity of the play. If anything, I'd like to see Domas take a couple more three's per game, given that he's hitting at a 40% clip currently this season and looks quite comfortable taking them.
Yeah, and it seems like HB really continues to be the weakest link in the starting unit. He's just been so inconsistent. After that season opening explosion, he's been effective in only the shortest of spurts. I expect Keegan to find himself, and I can live with Huerter's streakiness, but I don't have any trust in Barnes to be what the Kings need him to be at this point.
But we're supposed to make a gameplan without Fox? Or if Fox is bad? Or something?
idk, it's just a silly premise to me. Fox is a bonafide top 10 player. Domas is top 20. Both guys are absolute offensive stars. You need shooting and defense around them to be successful. The defense is what's currently lacking. Seems like a pretty easy solution to where to allocate our trade resources.
idk, it's just a silly premise to me. Fox is a bonafide top 10 player. Domas is top 20. Both guys are absolute offensive stars. You need shooting and defense around them to be successful. The defense is what's currently lacking. Seems like a pretty easy solution to where to allocate our trade resources.
Domas stepping up might happen, but after the playoffs I can see why Monte is looking where he is. The defense didn't fall off, it actually improved however that scoring got a lot tougher. And Embiid? Look at Philly the last few years. They had a superteam and threw it away and are probably regretting their decisions quite a bit at times. We know Embiid is on that cusp of wanting out from some reports. Jokic has Murray so that's two guys that can get you Fox level production. And scoring isn't just about that end either, we know, a more controlled offense leads to better defense a lot of the time and more importantly clock management which is a big part of it.
This whole thing likely depends on what the deal what would look like anyway. The likely pieces are players that many fans are seemingly willing to throw away. The picks? Eh, send 'em if that's what it takes. 1 for Huerter is probably 2 for Siakam. None of the deals we are hearing as of yet have ANY negative effect on someone like Domas, so why not try? Well, Monte is for sure.
This whole thing likely depends on what the deal what would look like anyway. The likely pieces are players that many fans are seemingly willing to throw away. The picks? Eh, send 'em if that's what it takes. 1 for Huerter is probably 2 for Siakam. None of the deals we are hearing as of yet have ANY negative effect on someone like Domas, so why not try? Well, Monte is for sure.
But why do you need the scoring?
If Fox is 30
Domas is 20
Monk is 15
Then you just need the shooters to actually do their job and hit shots. The role guys utterly failed that in the playoffs last year. And with our 2 stars banged up, we needed them to not just be passable, but excellent for us to win. Outside of Monk and a few Keegan games, we just didn't get that production at all.
If Fox is 30
Domas is 20
Monk is 15
Then you just need the shooters to actually do their job and hit shots. The role guys utterly failed that in the playoffs last year. And with our 2 stars banged up, we needed them to not just be passable, but excellent for us to win. Outside of Monk and a few Keegan games, we just didn't get that production at all.
Because of what we saw in the playoffs. It's the type of scoring not just points. We know the playoffs get grimy at times and those who feed themselves eat. Again, we're not hearing deals here that are going to change any of what those 3 guys do, however, it will potentially take a lot of pressure off that guy at the top and probably the guy under him. Monk stepped up for sure but lets look at the numbers, for the explosive games he had he had equally implosive ones. He put up 40% from 2 and 33% from 3. Under his capabilities for sure but that's what happened there. It might never happen again, but Monte looking at deals to add the types of names we're hearing makes total sense from what those playoffs showed even if it was a one time thing. Ride on that, end up wrong, and good luck buying low or even at all. If a trade goes down and it's not up to par you're basically the same team you were with maybe a few less picks and depth.
I'm sure he understands that but this is an all star that's been around for awhile. Sure, he might develop a little, but if you force it and it doesn't work you can mess things up even worse. Simple answer to me is what it sounds like Monte is looking at. Get him another person he can dish to and play with that can pick up some of that pressure.
there are a couple downsides to Lavine.
1) we need to send out 30 mil in salary. That means both Huerter and Barnes or either of them plus most of our depth (Sasha or Lyles and Duarte and maybe Kessler). It’s one of the downsides of not having that Holmes contract laying around. I don’t think the bulls are going to take back 4 guys in a trade.
2) if it doesn’t work out or he gets hurt again we have him for 3 years at more than 40 a year. If you are not sending any picks and it’s a salary dump Monte might talk himself into the risk.
Fox Colby
Lavine Monk
Keegan Edwards
Lyles Sasha
Domas Javale Len
he would have to be pretty confident in Lavine to pull the trigger
1) we need to send out 30 mil in salary. That means both Huerter and Barnes or either of them plus most of our depth (Sasha or Lyles and Duarte and maybe Kessler). It’s one of the downsides of not having that Holmes contract laying around. I don’t think the bulls are going to take back 4 guys in a trade.
2) if it doesn’t work out or he gets hurt again we have him for 3 years at more than 40 a year. If you are not sending any picks and it’s a salary dump Monte might talk himself into the risk.
Fox Colby
Lavine Monk
Keegan Edwards
Lyles Sasha
Domas Javale Len
he would have to be pretty confident in Lavine to pull the trigger
The positive is if you have created a core of 4 guys that can basically account for all of your offense, you can band-aid those role spots. Monte knew what he was doing with his cap. There's a lot of ways for him to make salaries work. There are apparently 3 players that ain't moving, and I'd think Monk is probably close to that list as well but that would largely depend on whether Monte is in fear of overpaying this summer.
One would assume that LaVine would require very little draft capital with that contract as you bring up, not to mention the situation brewing in Chicago. Unfortunately OG and Siakam are a totally different story if last summer was any indication and still stands. What we do know is that Monte had a deal for Beal. That's about as much as the buy low variety as you can get. I think Monte will continue on that path if OG and Siakam aren't possible. Maybe not though who knows. Since that first blurb about the Kings and LaVine it's been quiet.
One would assume that LaVine would require very little draft capital with that contract as you bring up, not to mention the situation brewing in Chicago. Unfortunately OG and Siakam are a totally different story if last summer was any indication and still stands. What we do know is that Monte had a deal for Beal. That's about as much as the buy low variety as you can get. I think Monte will continue on that path if OG and Siakam aren't possible. Maybe not though who knows. Since that first blurb about the Kings and LaVine it's been quiet.
Watching this game today, Finney-Smith just looks bigger/longer to me than a guy like Hunter (and Murray). Maybe it’s just my biased eyes playing tricks on me…
Speaking of Finney-Smith, not only is he a good individual defender but his rotations, help defense, and paint protection have been impressive tonight as well. That’s an important attribute for our PF to have with Sabonis at C.
Speaking of Finney-Smith, not only is he a good individual defender but his rotations, help defense, and paint protection have been impressive tonight as well. That’s an important attribute for our PF to have with Sabonis at C.
Or maybe throw in Caruso 
I had always liked LaVine but now also questioning more than just his fat contract. However, his recent absence sure is making DeRozan look appealing.
I had always liked LaVine but now also questioning more than just his fat contract. However, his recent absence sure is making DeRozan look appealing.
Even if they don’t reach semis or final as we all wish I am sure they will win a round this year and will be able to make stronger case next year , offering a spot in title contender , not just most probably play off spot
I would not consider trading monk, Sabonis, Fox or Murray. would prefer to keep red velvet but I would like to think by the time the new year rolls around and some teams are attempting to blow up their rosters Monte will go shopping as we cannot stay pat for the stretch run and playoffs.
We need another starter that is a game changer and doesn’t disappear for way to many games.
We need another starter that is a game changer and doesn’t disappear for way to many games.