[Game] Kings @ Spurs 12/29/13, 4PM PST
- Thread starter Tetsujin
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Frustration...that's all. We had an opportunity but Spurs have Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. Duncan shut Cuz down in the last 3 minutes, Manu and Parker had their way like most good guards against us.
I watch all the games and do not post much. I have to say whether it is a rookie thing or not, but Ben has been a disappointment so far. I think he has gotten enough minutes to get into the flow of the game better. I will say he was much like TRob as far as having a lot between the ears. We need more points and D from that position. I hope he turns it around, one thing he can do is shoot, hopefully his confidence won't dip too much. He was known at Kansas to have big games, then disappear.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Bring Ben off the bench, but still play him. Not "bench him" as in out of the rotation
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
Ben isn't awful, he's a three-point shooter that isn't getting three-point looks + is a rookie/ Williams doesn't have to go down low, they'd just really stretch the floor.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
IT,Rudy,Williams,JT,Cuz
Amen. Williams is not an advantage at 4. He is at 3. We already saw it
Kingsfan23
All-Star
He is a letdown to the organization as of right now and as far as I'm concerned we still need a long term SG solution as of this minute
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
Still, none of the Ben haters have answeredthis question -
HOW WILL HE MAKE THREES WHEN HE CAN'T GET THE BALL TO SHOOT THEM???
HOW WILL HE MAKE THREES WHEN HE CAN'T GET THE BALL TO SHOOT THEM???
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Ok kids the Spurs have been closing out close games for over a decade! Did some of our guys make mistakes? sure, but these are YOUNG players with a first year coach. At this point you pat the guys on back for playing a good game and taking the Spurs down to the wire, THEN you look at tape and you LEARN from your mistakes and move on.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
What the hell makes everyone think that Gay and Williams are capable of guarding 2s? Going big might have some benefits but it could also make an already porous defense even more porous. I realize that Ben has been a disappointment in many of your eyes but the solution to keeping the Titanic from sinking isn't to blow another hole in the ship's hull.
TheBadGuy
Bench
Williams is better at playing the SF position not the PF.
MissingThoseAdelmanDays
G-League
Rudy Gay not getting touches down the stretch.
Isaiah Thomas' instincts as a "me-first" PG late in the game. Horrible shot selection.
Jason Thompson and Ben McClemore? Scrubs.
That's your ball game.
Isaiah Thomas' instincts as a "me-first" PG late in the game. Horrible shot selection.
Jason Thompson and Ben McClemore? Scrubs.
That's your ball game.
Dude, Williams was awful tonight. MT was not very good tonight. As far a Ben, it is what is....it's not like our big 3 were sterling down the stretch....I take that back...IT and Cuz were not good down the stretch, Gay didn't touch the ball and whose fault would that be?
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
He fumbles the ball when he gets it! Nobody wants to set him up and pass him the ball, when there's a good chance of a turnover
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
They played him at 4. He's not effective at 4
Not really the issue. It's his ball handling leading to turnovers. It's his getting burned on defense. He made most of the big mistakes at the end of the game. He had a open layup with Splitter out of position and he passes the ball to JT with little time on the clock. That's a rookie mistake, but the rest is really aggravating.
I certainly think Ben is a capable scorer, his defense has to improve and maybe he needs to move better without the ball to get open for shots. I look for him to have a 30 pt game before the season is over, if he gets hot his stroke is beautiful and if he gets hot the team should be willing passers. I love IT, but a Rondo/Cousins/Gay/ McLemore would be awesome.
TheBadGuy
Bench
So would you like to have Williams guard Duncan? or Splitter? or Duncan/Splitter guard Williams?
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Bingo. He won't develop and improve at the 4, against these type players in the NBA. He's right back in the same situation he found himself in with Minnesota
Exactly. Frustrating but the fact we had a chance to win late is encouraging....we still need a few pieces and some experience.....and this was on the road as well......good stuff
Livinthedream
All-Star
No. Ginoboli, Parker and Duncan won the game. Spurs exploited matchup problems. That's what veteran teams do.
K
KingMilz
Guest
You take away Mclemore and Thornton and we have a comfortable 5-10 point win 2night that's where the frustration comes from. At both ends they just combined to destroy us like no one else this season. I can accept losing to a team that out plays us I can't accept losing cause of two idiots who every single game you have to wonder why are they in the NBA.
TheBadGuy
Bench
Williams can't guard Duncan and he can't get past Duncan's defense, same with Splitter. Williams is too small to guard Duncan/Splitter and he's no LeBron James to get past those two.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Yes. He's a 3. How Adelman came to the conclusion that he's a 4, is a mystery
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Not really. Just move him back to coming off the bench, where he belongs, till he shows consistent improvement
Thomas and Gay each played 37+ minutes. If you don't play McLemore and Thornton, then either you have to live with extended minutes from Fredette and/or McCallum, or you have to play Thomas and Gay 45+, and they're on dead legs down the stretch, and we lose, anyway.
Ahem, he has shot 38 out of 107 from three for 35 percent. That isn't a good number for someone advertised as a pure shooter. He is getting shots.
You take away ITs defense and we have a 5-10 point lead
You take away our team giving up offensive rebounds and we have a 5-10 point lead
You take away the Jimmer led bench unit and we win by 5-10 points
If JT and DWill were better we win by 5-10.
Come on man.
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