Kings May File for Relocation Before Deadline
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Oh no -- the delusion amongst Sacramentans has been so compelte that back when we canvassed this subject when the team was good, the excuse was "the arena is full, we are the best fans in the world, they'd never leave the best fans in the world!"
Of course then the team gets bad and the place empties out and its "why should we pay for these losers". And its all just a bunch of B.S. exuses. Its like telling a 7yr old he has to clean his room. And he doesn't want to clean his room, so there will always be an excuse why he doesn't. It will be too dirty, and he's too tired to clean so much, one day. Then the next it will be its really not that dirty at all, it doesn't need cleaning. All just excuses. Then one day you run out of time and have ****ed it all up.
Of course then the team gets bad and the place empties out and its "why should we pay for these losers". And its all just a bunch of B.S. exuses. Its like telling a 7yr old he has to clean his room. And he doesn't want to clean his room, so there will always be an excuse why he doesn't. It will be too dirty, and he's too tired to clean so much, one day. Then the next it will be its really not that dirty at all, it doesn't need cleaning. All just excuses. Then one day you run out of time and have ****ed it all up.
I can see that. Then they'll draft another great young player and be the next OKC. Just truly disgusting but the writing has been on the wall now for a long time so no one can really say it's a shock. Although if they file this year, I'll be surprised. With the ICON proposal I thought they'd stick it out one more season at least to see what happens. Maybe The Maloofs have just lost all faith in Sacramento being able to get it done, in which case it's tough to blame them.
Also, some people tend to forget but this isn't about the Maloofs or the Kings. It's about Sacramento and its surrounding region.
Yes, the Kings would be the major tenant.
However, they occupy the arena less than 50 days per year (with preseason and regular season games).
WWE will be in town this Tuesday for a Smackdown TV taping.
Oakland's Oracle Arena gets a PPV event later this evening.
Prince, a music icon, will be performing in Oakland's Oracle Arena this Monday and Wednesday evenings.
Prince will NOT be performing in Sacramento's ARCO Arena (Power Balance Pavillion).
I have no choice but to drive to Oakland and spend my money there as I will be having dinner before the concert.
The city of Oakland will get my tax dollars as well as thousands of others.
The naysayers will continue their dislike for the Maloofs (they refer to them as Magoofs), the Kings, sports, and other entertainment options.
They believe that there is nothing wrong with the current arena.
They believe should the Kings move, that the arena will still be around for years and decades to come.
They don't want their tax dollars to help support a new arena because they feel the Maloofs should pay for it, yet so many other arenas across the country are built with public and private dollars.
Not that there's anything wrong with spending money on law enforcement, fire fighters, schools, homeless, etc., but we already have our tax dollars going to those things.
A new arena can bring in more revenue for those very same things they want, but they're too blind with their dislike and continue to spread their lies to convince others who are not educated on how important this issue really is. It's sad. It really is.
Yes, the Kings would be the major tenant.
However, they occupy the arena less than 50 days per year (with preseason and regular season games).
WWE will be in town this Tuesday for a Smackdown TV taping.
Oakland's Oracle Arena gets a PPV event later this evening.
Prince, a music icon, will be performing in Oakland's Oracle Arena this Monday and Wednesday evenings.
Prince will NOT be performing in Sacramento's ARCO Arena (Power Balance Pavillion).
I have no choice but to drive to Oakland and spend my money there as I will be having dinner before the concert.
The city of Oakland will get my tax dollars as well as thousands of others.
The naysayers will continue their dislike for the Maloofs (they refer to them as Magoofs), the Kings, sports, and other entertainment options.
They believe that there is nothing wrong with the current arena.
They believe should the Kings move, that the arena will still be around for years and decades to come.
They don't want their tax dollars to help support a new arena because they feel the Maloofs should pay for it, yet so many other arenas across the country are built with public and private dollars.
Not that there's anything wrong with spending money on law enforcement, fire fighters, schools, homeless, etc., but we already have our tax dollars going to those things.
A new arena can bring in more revenue for those very same things they want, but they're too blind with their dislike and continue to spread their lies to convince others who are not educated on how important this issue really is. It's sad. It really is.
It still seems like a long shot to me that they'd do it right now but that's just because I don't see the appeal of Anaheim. the thing that's really worrying me right now is that isn't Amick generally a pretty credible reporter? He doesn't seem like the type that would break a BS story based on some silly rumors.
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That's all true but the thing I don't get is why they'd pull the plug right now when possibly the most realistic arena proposal to date is on the table and the entire city council seems to be behind it. it just makes no sense that they wouldn't see what happens with this ICON deal before making a final decision.
I say screw The Maloofs too but it's not because they may be moving this year. it's because they lied about it. I specifically recall in the beginning of the season they said they would not be filing this year. And as recently as January they've said that they still wished to remain in Sacramento. If they file this year in spite of that it pretty much makes them d-bags and liars in my book.
In no way would I blame the Maloofs for leaving. Sac has had over a decade to show they want the Kings to stay, from the glory days of being title contenders, to what we've seen the past few seasons. We all saw what happened in Seattle, and yet Sac didn't learn its lesson, and take the hint. People can blame the Maloofs, but it's not a smart business decision to stay. They've tried for years, as well as the previous owner, and yet......nothing.
Will it suck to see them go? Of course. But the city hasn't shown they want them to stay. Yes they haven't been good the past few years, but Arco used to sell out consistently when they weren't a competitive team. Where did all those fans go? You can blame it on the economy. If so, then the Sac area economy can't support an NBA franchise. It's not the Maloofs job to sit there and lose money when there are better options.
You can blame it on the team not being competitive. Yet, they sold out before when they weren't competitive. GS has much better attendance, even when they weren't competitive. Same as other cities. So maybe Sac no longer has the fanbase needed to support an NBA franchise. If fans have turned fair weather, it's not the Maloofs fault. The history of the NBA shows success comes in cycles. It's nothing new. You think with Liverpool FC having a few down years the fans stop showing? No way.
I put most of the blame on the city council. They appear to be short sighted and in denial. yes maybe now they have the hope of getting something done, but it might be too little too late. If the city can't see beyond the Kings, and that not having a better venue will hurt all other acts coming in and helping the economy, it's their fault. The Sac area politicians haven't been fiscally responsible in years, and have wasted money left and right. Well, without a new arena, and better venue, the city will take a nose dive. As others have said, the Kings have 41 home game a year. What about all the other nights they will lose out on business?
Bottom line, is that the city hasn't shown in over a decade they're serious about keeping the team, and doing what's required, yet other cities have arenas, and are begging for the Maloofs to come. Not that complicated at all, as much as it may hurt.
Will it suck to see them go? Of course. But the city hasn't shown they want them to stay. Yes they haven't been good the past few years, but Arco used to sell out consistently when they weren't a competitive team. Where did all those fans go? You can blame it on the economy. If so, then the Sac area economy can't support an NBA franchise. It's not the Maloofs job to sit there and lose money when there are better options.
You can blame it on the team not being competitive. Yet, they sold out before when they weren't competitive. GS has much better attendance, even when they weren't competitive. Same as other cities. So maybe Sac no longer has the fanbase needed to support an NBA franchise. If fans have turned fair weather, it's not the Maloofs fault. The history of the NBA shows success comes in cycles. It's nothing new. You think with Liverpool FC having a few down years the fans stop showing? No way.
I put most of the blame on the city council. They appear to be short sighted and in denial. yes maybe now they have the hope of getting something done, but it might be too little too late. If the city can't see beyond the Kings, and that not having a better venue will hurt all other acts coming in and helping the economy, it's their fault. The Sac area politicians haven't been fiscally responsible in years, and have wasted money left and right. Well, without a new arena, and better venue, the city will take a nose dive. As others have said, the Kings have 41 home game a year. What about all the other nights they will lose out on business?
Bottom line, is that the city hasn't shown in over a decade they're serious about keeping the team, and doing what's required, yet other cities have arenas, and are begging for the Maloofs to come. Not that complicated at all, as much as it may hurt.
Please show us a link to a quote from the Maloofs stating that.
I have used News Bank via my Sac State account to search through past Bee articles. This was what I came up with and I found nothing of what you said:
1. Capital idea needed for new Kings arena
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Friday, October 1, 2010
"Right now, we're trying to stay positive," Joe Maloof said. "We want to concentrate on the team and getting people back in the building. We have to get the fans back -- it's as simple as that."
"It's very, very frustrating," continued Maloof, who has spent $2 million in arena consulting fees. "You can't sweep it under the carpet. There's a need that has to be addressed. The thing that drives me crazy is when I hear 'the Maloofs , the Kings.' A new arena would be for everybody. We've said it a million times. You'd have concerts, Disney on Ice, the UFC, all these other events. Why can't people see that?"
2. Kings contraction? No way, owner says
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Saturday, October 23, 2010
Upon hearing Stern's quote, Gavin Maloof told The Bee: "We're not contracting. That's not going to happen. No way we'll fold -- and no way we're selling."
3. SACRAMENTO - City to 'reboot' arena process - WITH LAND SWAP DEAL OUT, SIX OTHER PLANS TO GET ANOTHER LOOK
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Sunday, October 24, 2010
The mayor said the recent $100 million expansion of the Crocker Art Museum shows large projects are possible in the city.
The Maloof family, owners of the Sacramento Kings, have said they are frustrated but are trying to remain positive.
Johnson said: "The Maloofs have never told my people, 'We're out of there by this date, we're drawing a line in the sand.'
"But I'm smart enough to know that at some point, if we can't get an entertainment and sports complex built, they're going to start looking around, as they probably should," he said. "They've never said that, but I understand the nature of business."
4. Kings' home opener arrives -- what are the odds they'll exit?
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Saturday, October 30, 2010
Despite an aging facility at Arco and several years of lean attendance, the Maloofs continue to profess their loyalty to Sacramento and its fans. But for the first time since buying the team 11 years ago, the Maloofs are talking openly about their willingness to consider alternatives.
"I think any smart businessman has to look at options," co-owner Joe Maloof told The Bee this week.
"Sooner or later, there has to be an option -- everybody knows that," he said.
I have used News Bank via my Sac State account to search through past Bee articles. This was what I came up with and I found nothing of what you said:
1. Capital idea needed for new Kings arena
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Friday, October 1, 2010
"Right now, we're trying to stay positive," Joe Maloof said. "We want to concentrate on the team and getting people back in the building. We have to get the fans back -- it's as simple as that."
"It's very, very frustrating," continued Maloof, who has spent $2 million in arena consulting fees. "You can't sweep it under the carpet. There's a need that has to be addressed. The thing that drives me crazy is when I hear 'the Maloofs , the Kings.' A new arena would be for everybody. We've said it a million times. You'd have concerts, Disney on Ice, the UFC, all these other events. Why can't people see that?"
2. Kings contraction? No way, owner says
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Saturday, October 23, 2010
Upon hearing Stern's quote, Gavin Maloof told The Bee: "We're not contracting. That's not going to happen. No way we'll fold -- and no way we're selling."
3. SACRAMENTO - City to 'reboot' arena process - WITH LAND SWAP DEAL OUT, SIX OTHER PLANS TO GET ANOTHER LOOK
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Sunday, October 24, 2010
The mayor said the recent $100 million expansion of the Crocker Art Museum shows large projects are possible in the city.
The Maloof family, owners of the Sacramento Kings, have said they are frustrated but are trying to remain positive.
Johnson said: "The Maloofs have never told my people, 'We're out of there by this date, we're drawing a line in the sand.'
"But I'm smart enough to know that at some point, if we can't get an entertainment and sports complex built, they're going to start looking around, as they probably should," he said. "They've never said that, but I understand the nature of business."
4. Kings' home opener arrives -- what are the odds they'll exit?
Sacramento Bee, The (CA) - Saturday, October 30, 2010
Despite an aging facility at Arco and several years of lean attendance, the Maloofs continue to profess their loyalty to Sacramento and its fans. But for the first time since buying the team 11 years ago, the Maloofs are talking openly about their willingness to consider alternatives.
"I think any smart businessman has to look at options," co-owner Joe Maloof told The Bee this week.
"Sooner or later, there has to be an option -- everybody knows that," he said.
I wasn't able to find the quote for them saying they wouldn't file this year. If you don't believe me or think I'm mistaken, that's fine, i'm not trying to prove anything here. I was able to find this story from January though where they said "We want to be right here in Sacramento". http://bayarea.sbnation.com/sacrame...ving-from-arco-arena-speculation-is-just-that If I find a source for them saying they would not file this year, i'll post it.
Sounds good. I just do not recall them saying they will not file for this season.
The quote you have doesn't say they will not file for relocation for this season.
Joe said this at the beginning of the article, "We are looking at all options to ensure the long term viability of this franchise. We're looking at all our options. Of course you're going to look at your options! We're businessmen. We've been at this for 10 years without any (arena) success."
All options means Sacramento and other cities.
The quote you have doesn't say they will not file for relocation for this season.
Joe said this at the beginning of the article, "We are looking at all options to ensure the long term viability of this franchise. We're looking at all our options. Of course you're going to look at your options! We're businessmen. We've been at this for 10 years without any (arena) success."
All options means Sacramento and other cities.
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