Kings "highly unlikely" to pick up options on Douby, Shelden

[nbrans]

The second tidbit is from basketball president Geoff Petrie, who said the Kings are "highly unlikely" to pick up the team options on Quincy Douby or Shelden Williams.
"Everything happens for a reason, so I'm still positive," Douby said this afternoon. "I'm going to work hard and do what I need to do to help the team win."

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/016290.html


I guess this doesn't necessarily preclude them from coming back next year, but not exactly ringing endorsements for their futures.

 

[SacKings7]

I actually think it's a smart move by Petrie to come out and say that. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone with the way they've played. This may light a fire under Williams and Douby if nothing else.

 

[NME]

I would have been shocked to hear anything different. I wouldn't mind resigning Shelden at a bargain price next summer with an eye towards being our #4 big down the line, after JT/Hawes/draft pick-TBA. I can't see Douby having any real future with the team.

 

[rhythmless]

I would have been shocked to hear anything different. I wouldn't mind resigning Shelden at a bargain price next summer with an eye towards being our #4 big down the line, after JT/Hawes/draft pick-TBA. I can't see Douby having any real future with the team.

I too would like sheldon to be picked up on the cheap as an insurance big. hes still relatively young, and might pan out. thats not to say that i still believe he can bring whta a no. 5 pick should bring, but i think he can settle into the defensive undersized banger w/a couple post moves ala malik rose. id be very ecstatic if he ended up being the next malik rose actually.

 

[Entity]

I see them both having a hard time breaking in the rotation this year baring injury. I mean if you know they aren't going to be in your future why give the min that others need to get better. Same with KT.

 

[MoneyMike916]

Douby has no confidence in himself.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Even if Douby had confidence in himself, the concept of a one-dimensional undersized shooter frightens me.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Shelden reminds me alot of an Antione Carr type of player if he'd just get himself into better physical condition he'd give himself alot better chance of advancing his career...but that can be said about ALOT of guys in the NBA, I guess.

 

[RalphySampson]

The thing that really bugs me about Sheldon is I just don't see a real burning desire to be out there. I mean, sure he might just be a quiet guy, but he doesn't seem to have any passion for the game. I don't think players like him with that type of makeup can be good NBA players.

He has the body and the ability to be a nice role player for a team, but I just don't see him panning out to anything but a 9th or 10th guy.

Quincy, on the other hand, just has zero basketball IQ. The only role for him is on a team that needs a shooter to come in and fire away for 10-15 minutes a game. I can see him in that role, but don't let him handle the ball much because he's simply a bad decision maker.

 

[bajaden]

No shocker here. Both players now become possible pieces of any trade the Kings might do before the trade deadline. However, unless the trade was a no brainer, I'd just as soon let them walk and clear cap space.

As far as Sheldon showing no passion on the court. To me, thats meaningless. Duncan doesn't show that much passion either, and no questions his talent. And, talent, me thinks, is the problem with Sheldon. For a player thats strictly a post player, he has very little deception to his game. He mostly just tries to power his way to the basket. Worked in college. Doesn't work in the NBA unless your name is Shaq, and now, maybe Oden.

 

[bloom]

I’m not surprised with this news. Quincy really hasn’t done anything spectacular to show the management that he’s worth extending (unfortunately). He did have a couple nice games (1st in his rookie year and the other against the Lakers)…I hope this will light a fire under Quincy. I heard Quincy was doing well in practice before his injury. I hope when he comes back, our coach can give him a fair shot. I just hope he doesn’t blow it.

As far as Sheldon, I’m not a fan of his, I’ve said this before and again, he needs to build his body better (tone it and tighten his muscles). But I’m not surprised that his option might not be picked up. He might be used in a trade this year, if we get a good trading partner.

 

[Bricklayer]

As far as Sheldon, I’m not a fan of his, I’ve said this before and again, he needs to build his body better (tone it and tighten his muscles). But I’m not surprised that his option might not be picked up. He might be used in a trade this year, if we get a good trading partner.

I'm not sure about this part. The one thing Sheldon does have is immense strength. He's quite obviously the strongest player on our team, and about the only one able to hold his position in the post. Unfortunately its nearly everything else that is lacking.

And as a #5 pick with a 4th year salary of over $4mil, that's just too much to pick up on such meager production to this point.

 

[Kingster]

I like Douby better than Williams. I still am waiting to see what he can do this year. He's the best defensive guard we have, and he ended last year pretty strong. Williams has no shot at being more than what he is right now, which isn't enough.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

As far as Sheldon showing no passion on the court. To me, thats meaningless. Duncan doesn't show that much passion either, and no questions his talent. And, talent, me thinks, is the problem with Sheldon. For a player thats strictly a post player, he has very little deception to his game. He mostly just tries to power his way to the basket. Worked in college. Doesn't work in the NBA unless your name is Shaq, and now, maybe Oden.

Agree with this. I think Shelden does have passion but is just reserved. Players with no passion typically drift quietly towards the peremiter and play with more finesse. Shelden is a scrapper who fights for position and plays hard on D. Unfortunatley, a deadly combination of his height (relative to his position), lack of speed, small wingspan and good but not great strength limit his overall effectiveness. Not a bad option as a rotation player towards the end of the bench, but not a whole lot of upside there either.

 

[sactownfan]

Williams got in the best shape hes been in, in years and still cant jump. Being so undersized and so grounded he will never make it in this league. At best hes a Big you can thrown in the game to pick up fouls on a Shaq like player.



Douby probably isn't gonna make it... If he could be and avg PG he could be money... but he will never make it to being close to an avg PG...



Both these guys are gone at the end of the year... I wish them luck but their not very good.

 

[bloom]

I'm not sure about this part. The one thing Sheldon does have is immense strength. He's quite obviously the strongest player on our team, and about the only one able to hold his position in the post. Unfortunately its nearly everything else that is lacking.

And as a #5 pick with a 4th year salary of over $4mil, that's just too much to pick up on such meager production to this point.

Brick, I understand what you’re saying. Sheldon is a strong guy. But I don’t know how to explain what I see in the guy. Maybe because he’s a low ground guy, I think if he lost some weight but made sure his muscles were – I don’t know – stronger/more together (if that makes sense). He could be better.

"It's something I want to happen," said Williams, who lost 15 pounds in the offseason. "But it's out of my control. I can only do what I can do."

Source: http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1329957.html

wow. I didn’t even realized that he lost 15 pounds. Did anybody see a difference in his body weight?...I do wish the guy luck. He seems like a nice guy and I hope he continues to grow as a player.

I wonder who he was working with in the offseason?

Somehow, if Douby doesn't make it with this team, maybe Portland will pick him.

 

[sacgirl88]

this doesn't surprise me at all to see douby and shelden gone.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

What do you mean, gone? Not picking up option ≠ waived.

 

[sacgirl88]

What do you mean, gone? Not picking up option ≠ waived.

what i ment by gone is that they are not picking up the option for next year

 

[ZZE916]

No surprises here. Douby is a 25 pound shooting guard who's is being forced to play out of position.
Shelden is Shelden. Not a bad player, but not the kind of player you need on a team that's rebuilding and trying to make themselves contenders. He can have a long career on the right team.

 

[AriesMar27]

not suprised at all but this just makes drafting douby that much worse considering the options we had... beno being hurt doesnt help either.... sigh....

 

[RalphySampson]

Yep, how would you like to have Sergio Rodriguez instead of Douby? He was drafted that year in the #27 spot. Geoff usually likes the foreign players too. Oh well, you can look back at almost any draft and say "should of" but Geoff has been solid with his picks for the most part.

 

[kingsfan101]

Can someone please confirm what this means? Do they become FAs after this year or RFAs? From some of the posts, I am guessing the former.

 

[RalphySampson]

Yeah, I think the Kings get their Larry Bird rights, not that you would ever want to associate that name with Sheldon and Quincy.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

Yep, how would you like to have Sergio Rodriguez instead of Douby? He was drafted that year in the #27 spot. Geoff usually likes the foreign players too. Oh well, you can look back at almost any draft and say "should of" but Geoff has been solid with his picks for the most part.

Ok, I really don't get the Sergio infatuation. He has very court vision, but poor shooting, non-existent defence. I think this is the worst draft Petrie has had, but mostly because I think Rondo was a farily obvious choice he passed on. Even Farmar would have been a better option. However, I still think Sergio gets a lot of unearned respect on this board.

 

[hrdboild]

Williams will have a spot in the league regardless. He's not going to make 4 million, but he'll sign a two year deal for 1-2 million probably. Guys with size generally stick somewhere, and Williams has a decent amount of talent to go with it. Problem is, as others have pointed out, he doesn't play like he wants to be out there. Which makes you question his desire to get better. It seems he's content being a role-player. Douby will have a much harder time. He's yet to prove he can be a consistent spot up shooter and that's the bare minimum for undersized guards without true point guard skills. I'm sure when Petrie drafted him he was counting on getting consistent outside shooting and a regular spot in the rotation at the very least, but even that hasn't materialized. He'll get at least one more shot to make a team. And if that doesn't work out, he'll probably be torching teams in the Euroleague in a couple years. Perhaps that was his destiny all along.

And Rajon Rondo was such a no-brainer pick...that, well...whatever. I'm done thinking about it. It's time to move on. I'm not ready to say "I told you so" on Spencer Hawes yet, but I'm getting there.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I'm not ready to say "I told you so" on Spencer Hawes yet, but I'm getting there.

You say that as if a 20-year-old 7-foot center who got rookie minutes in his first year in the NBA is a done-deal bust before his second year starts.

I think Spencer has looked quite good this preseason with the exception of his two outings against Oden. Considering that Oden is not only a physical beast but also the most anticipated young player since LeBron, Hawes' struggles against him don't overly worry me. He's got time, both to learn to play against more physical players, and to fill his body out. Looking at the '07 draft, there are a grand total of three players I'd trade Hawes for straight up right now, and they were drafted 1-2-3. That's not to say that some of those guys won't end up better (Fernandez, Thornton, and Thaddeus Young would lead my current list of potential all-stars in the don't-trade-Hawes-for category, with Sessions a rising dark horse) but Spencer has the potential to be an all-star center with great offense and average defense. Even if he'll never be a defensive brute his numbers have improved in the preseason relative to last year (per48: rebounds 13 vs 12, blocks 2.5 vs. 2.1) and he's 20. You don't write that off after a couple of bad games against Oden.

You say you're not ready to say "I told you so", but I don't understand how that could even be under consideration at this point.

 

[hrdboild]

You say that as if a 20-year-old 7-foot center who got rookie minutes in his first year in the NBA is a done-deal bust before his second year starts.

I think Spencer has looked quite good this preseason with the exception of his two outings against Oden. Considering that Oden is not only a physical beast but also the most anticipated young player since LeBron, Hawes' struggles against him don't overly worry me. He's got time, both to learn to play against more physical players, and to fill his body out. Looking at the '07 draft, there are a grand total of three players I'd trade Hawes for straight up right now, and they were drafted 1-2-3. That's not to say that some of those guys won't end up better (Fernandez, Thornton, and Thaddeus Young would lead my current list of potential all-stars in the don't-trade-Hawes-for category, with Sessions a rising dark horse) but Spencer has the potential to be an all-star center with great offense and average defense. Even if he'll never be a defensive brute his numbers have improved in the preseason relative to last year (per48: rebounds 13 vs 12, blocks 2.5 vs. 2.1) and he's 20. You don't write that off after a couple of bad games against Oden.

You say you're not ready to say "I told you so", but I don't understand how that could even be under consideration at this point.

I never said bust. But I still think his ceiling is as a good backup center. He's got a lot of skills for a 7 footer, but I don't see him as a game changer. Certainly not an All Star. But then Brad Miller got there for a season, so I suppose it's not completely out of the question.

 

[HighFlyingMonkey]

I never said bust. But I still think his ceiling is as a good backup center. He's got a lot of skills for a 7 footer, but I don't see him as a game changer. Certainly not an All Star. But then Brad Miller got there for a season, so I suppose it's not completely out of the question.

His cieling is a good back up center? I'd say that's a lot closer to his basement. Come on, Spencer has way more potential than that. You may think that Spencer may eventually be a bust and back up center, but unquestionably his potential is a lot higher than that.

 

[hrdboild]

His cieling is a good back up center? I'd say that's a lot closer to his basement. Come on, Spencer has way more potential than that. You may think that Spencer may eventually be a bust and back up center, but unquestionably his potential is a lot higher than that.

We'll agree to disagree. And I still didn't say bust.