[KINGS] Comments that don't warrant their own thread (Redux)

 
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Tom got some things wrong (including getting Fox’s free agency wrong) but I thought this was a nice segment on the kings. The headline only represents a portion of the video. A lot more knowledgeable about the team than typical media. Lots of advanced metrics, talk about Keon, Fox, Keegan and Demar. Some coach talk to.

 
iowamcnabb said:
Tom got some things wrong (including getting Fox’s free agency wrong) but I thought this was a nice segment on the kings. The headline only represents a portion of the video. A lot more knowledgeable about the team than typical media. Lots of advanced metrics, talk about Keon, Fox, Keegan and Demar. Some coach talk to.an interesting were to

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Man, that’s an interesting discussion. So many questions that I think we’ll get answers to after a short time.
 
Joshyjosh31 said:

We’re up there with the contenders just get rid of Huerter for a wing
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With the Kings rating amongst the best in the league in a number of these metrics, it does beg the question why it's not translating to wins. We ought to be around 6th in the West and 9th overall in the league based on Net Rating and this chart suggests that's still underselling how good we've played. Yet even after a 7 game winning streak we're fighting just to stay above .500. "Underperforming because of the coach" doesn't count as an explanation to me because even if that's true, we still have 5 less wins than the on-the-court performance suggests we should have.
 
hrdboild said:
With the Kings rating amongst the best in the league in a number of these metrics, it does beg the question why it's not translating to wins. We ought to be around 6th in the West and 9th overall in the league based on Net Rating and this chart suggests that's still underselling how good we've played. Yet even after a 7 game winning streak we're fighting just to stay above .500. "Underperforming because of the coach" doesn't count as an explanation to me because even if that's true, we still have 5 less wins than the on-the-court performance suggests we should have.
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We weren’t performing in clutch situations I believe
 
Joshyjosh31 said:
We weren’t performing in clutch situations I believe
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That's one way to put it. Getting absolutely jobbed by officiating is more how I would describe it. Dyson Daniels getting no ball and all hand on his game-winning "block" is the call that stands out the most in my mind but calls like that were happening routinely in October and November.
 
Christie was asked if any of his former teammates from his playing days have reached out to him about his then-7-1 record as interim head coach.

"Mike [Bibby] popped in the other day when we were playing [the] Miami [Heat] in the morning when I was working," Christie said. "[Chris Webber] has texted me numerous times. Bobby [Jackson] has texted me numerous times. Peja [Stojakovic] and Vlade [Divac], things that I can't say, but they definitely have texted me. It's nothing but love for all those guys because without them, I'm not sitting here.

"I think we all understand what I'm here to do, and I think they do. And that's probably why they text me. Because they understand it's not about me, it's more about our team first of all, but also our city and our organization, to try to do what we were so close to doing and we didn't accomplish it."
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Christie is serious about his unfinished business.

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hrdboild said:
With the Kings rating amongst the best in the league in a number of these metrics, it does beg the question why it's not translating to wins. We ought to be around 6th in the West and 9th overall in the league based on Net Rating and this chart suggests that's still underselling how good we've played. Yet even after a 7 game winning streak we're fighting just to stay above .500. "Underperforming because of the coach" doesn't count as an explanation to me because even if that's true, we still have 5 less wins than the on-the-court performance suggests we should have.
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Well it's the clutch time play. Under Brown we were what, like 3-9 in games decided by 5 points or less?
 
RoyalDiva said:
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It's often been asked if Ben Simmons is really a point guard, or if he's more of a ballhandling PF. But clearly his best position is tank commander. I suppose it's a luxury to be able to rest him on back-to-backs when your primary season goal is to "Capture the Flagg".

Maybe the most amazing part of the Nets losing by nearly 60 points is that the game was tied after the first quarter.
 
hrdboild said:
With the Kings rating amongst the best in the league in a number of these metrics, it does beg the question why it's not translating to wins. We ought to be around 6th in the West and 9th overall in the league based on Net Rating and this chart suggests that's still underselling how good we've played. Yet even after a 7 game winning streak we're fighting just to stay above .500. "Underperforming because of the coach" doesn't count as an explanation to me because even if that's true, we still have 5 less wins than the on-the-court performance suggests we should have.
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Did Brown get fired mainly because of poor officiating?
 
ShastaKingsFan said:
Did Brown get fired mainly because of poor officiating?
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Personally, I think he got fired because he was unable to motivate the team to keep playing hard despite the bad officiating. For whatever reason his motivational techniques which had worked in the previous two seasons were now being tuned out. It also appears to me that the more immediate cause came after the Detroit game when, in the midst of a losing streak, rather than saying "this is on me" Coach Brown tried to call Fox out publicly in order to motivate him to take more ownership of the team and Fox did the exact opposite. This put the front office in a position where they felt they had to choose one or the other.

But if you want to trace this all back to bad officiating, I wouldn't argue with you. Winning breeds good chemistry and losing has the opposite effect. Expectations are high for this team because of the job Mike Brown did in that 2022-2023 season. As a coach in any major sports league you're expected to show improvement year to year so in a way he's also guilty of accelerating his own demise. I do think the team overall was showing signs of improvement this season with the notable exception of the end of game execution but whether the blame for that lies more on the players, the coach, or the officials is an eye of the beholder thing and clearly we all have our own biases about each.
 
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funkykingston said:
It's often been asked if Ben Simmons is really a point guard, or if he's more of a ballhandling PF. But clearly his best position is tank commander. I suppose it's a luxury to be able to rest him on back-to-backs when your primary season goal is to "Capture the Flagg".

Maybe the most amazing part of the Nets losing by nearly 60 points is that the game was tied after the first quarter.
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No way!! Wtf happened after that? Did Space Jam happen? Lol.
I remember once years ago a Kings vs. Suns game where the Kings were down by 30-ish at halftime and then made a comeback to win the game.
 
RoyalDiva said:
No way!! Wtf happened after that? Did Space Jam happen? Lol.
I remember once years ago a Kings vs. Suns game where the Kings were down by 30-ish at halftime and then made a comeback to win the game.
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The Clippers went on a big run early in the 2nd quarter (21 to 4 or 5 IIRC) and I think the Nets just gave up. They were outscored 37-14 in the 2Q but then 44-16 in the 3Q. Noah Clowney got ejected after a 2nd technical (out of frustration I'm sure) and things just kept going downhill. New Jersey doesn't have much talent when everyone is healthy at this point, but when Ben Simmons, Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas and D'Angelo Russell are all out they aren't going to win many games. But that's different than just rolling over.
 
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