Kings coaching prospects (Merged)

[Superman]

I think that to. On the other hand they may be favoring him, but they still want to explore all options and do their due dilligence. That way they make sure they aren't just going with what they are leaning towards without other info first. It would be a real tough deal to do that though.

It's probably best if they leave Coach Whis where he is. I mean you REALLY disrupt the Monarchs season if you take coach Whis away as it's starting.

I hope I'm not stepping over any lines, but it's apparent to me that a WNBA head coach - as skilled as he may be - hasn't paid his dues and he hasn't proved that he can coach at the NBA level. No disrespect to the WNBA, but it's not the same.

I point to Michael Cooper's short tenure in Denver as evidence of that.

 

[Bricklayer]

I hope I'm not stepping over any lines, but it's apparent to me that a WNBA head coach - as skilled as he may be - hasn't paid his dues and he hasn't proved that he can coach at the NBA level. No disrespect to the WNBA, but it's not the same.

I point to Michael Cooper's short tenure in Denver as evidence of that.

There is no need to tiptoe around it THAT delicately.

I'll say it more strongly -- WNBA coaching experience has VERY little relevance to NBA experience. Probably less than NBDL experience, or maybe even male college. (Difference being that the NBDL and college are both still teaching type positions, while the WNBA at least involves proven pro players).

That doesn't mean WNBA coaches can't coach or don't know the game, just that that coaching in that league gives them very little insight to the unique challenges of coaching in the NBA (that have scuttled many a coach who nwas great in other settings). If you're going to look at a WNBA coach to coach the Kings, then I think it would be a VERY good idea if said coach had also spent some time on the bench in the NBA (i.e., a guy like Cooper, even though it was brief and not terribly successful). Hiring a WNBA guy (or gal -- now that would be progressive ) just because they are "a good coach" would just be a crapshoot. NBA coaches rarely fail because they don't know basketball. They fail because they don't know how to run an NBA team and get the most out of their players.

 

[DocHolliday]

There is no need to tiptoe around it THAT delicately.

I'll say it more strongly -- WNBA coaching experience has VERY little relevance to NBA experience. Probably less than NBDL experience, or maybe even male college. (Difference being that the NBDL and college are both still teaching type positions, while the WNBA at least involves proven pro players).

That doesn't mean WNBA coaches can't coach or don't know the game, just that that coaching in that league gives them very little insight to the unique challenges of coaching in the NBA (that have scuttled many a coach who nwas great in other settings). If you're going to look at a WNBA coach to coach the Kings, then I think it would be a VERY good idea if said coach had also spent some time on the bench in the NBA (i.e., a guy like Cooper, even though it was brief and not terribly successful). Hiring a WNBA guy (or gal -- now that would be progressive ) just because they are "a good coach" would just be a crapshoot. NBA coaches rarely fail because they don't know basketball. They fail because they don't know how to run an NBA team and get the most out of their players.

Well I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but Tank asked Whis specifically do you think coaching a player at any level is any different. Whis says know he really doesn't think so, and pointed out that while he doesn't have NBA experience he has coached in the IBL. Tank asked him that question and as Whis was answering said, thank you exactly. All of them on the show seemed to agree, coaching is coaching.

Just passing on that info for you to chew on.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but Tank asked Whis specifically do you think coaching a player at any level is any different. Whis says know he really doesn't think so, and pointed out that while he doesn't have NBA experience he has coached in the IBL. Tank asked him that question and as Whis was answering said, thank you exactly. All of them on the show seemed to agree, coaching is coaching.

Just passing on that info for you to chew on.

Er...a big goofy good natured company man with the I.Q. of a pair of my socks and the guy who's never coached a second in the NBA?

Chewed on...and spit out.


And of course the evidence is VERY much to the contrary -- exactly how many great college coaches have succeeeded in the NBA? Not how it works. Have said, will continue to say, 90% of coaching in the NBA takes place off the court.

 

[nbrans]

I agree with what Brick is saying 100%. In order to succeed as an NBA coach you really need to understand intuitively and completely what it is like to play in the NBA, whether that comes as a player or a long time on the bench as an assistant coach. You have to be able to reach players, you have to understand the NBA game, and most importantly, you have to command a great deal of respect from some of the biggest egos in America. There's a huge gap between just "knowing the game" and commanding the respect of NBA players.

 

[DocHolliday]

Er...a big goofy good natured company man with the I.Q. of a pair of my socks and the guy who's never coached a second in the NBA?

Chewed on...and spit out.


And of course the evidence is VERY much to the contrary -- exactly how many great college coaches have succeeeded in the NBA? Not how it works. Have said, will continue to say, 90% of coaching in the NBA takes place off the court.

Don't shoot the messenger. Just passing on the info.

 

[Superman]

There is no need to tiptoe around it THAT delicately.

I'll say it more strongly -- WNBA coaching experience has VERY little relevance to NBA experience. Probably less than NBDL experience, or maybe even male college. (Difference being that the NBDL and college are both still teaching type positions, while the WNBA at least involves proven pro players).

That doesn't mean WNBA coaches can't coach or don't know the game, just that that coaching in that league gives them very little insight to the unique challenges of coaching in the NBA (that have scuttled many a coach who nwas great in other settings). If you're going to look at a WNBA coach to coach the Kings, then I think it would be a VERY good idea if said coach had also spent some time on the bench in the NBA (i.e., a guy like Cooper, even though it was brief and not terribly successful). Hiring a WNBA guy (or gal -- now that would be progressive ) just because they are "a good coach" would just be a crapshoot. NBA coaches rarely fail because they don't know basketball. They fail because they don't know how to run an NBA team and get the most out of their players.

Good work. Just wondering why no one else had brought it up.