Keon Tyrese Ellis
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Keon has to start when fox comes back it just makes too much sense there’s too many cooks in the kitchen with monk starting. Keon and keeegan defending to start off is better for the team. Also imagine we trade for Collins how amazing is our bench when you have monk/Collins running pick and rolls with Carter out there as well
The thing about “we’re all pros and we immediately know when we made a mistake and what we did wrong” is something I’ve been thinking a lot about. If MB’s thing was “rules” and “accountability” but about super basic stuff, that’s sorta dumbing down the team. “Simplifying” the game under Doug vs a “complex” system under MB might be a misnomer if the stuff MB was focused on was stuff guys at that level should already know. Having more rules and being strict about them doesn’t make the end product more complex it just gives players too much crap to think about when they should just be playing
After the Lakers game (I think) they asked Doug about Keon and he said he's important and he needs to shoot more and have the confidence to do it. I'm guessing one of the "rules" was that he lets the shooters shoot which is why he was timid to shoot in the Lakers game (didn't really notice that but Doug did).
They haven't played this way since 2023 imho. Whether it was the weight of expectations post playoffs as a fun young team to watch or it was Mike Brown adding elements to the schemes that failed, I watched almost every game last season and don't recall ever enjoying a night as much as I have the last few games.
Speaking of Keon, I’d have to assume we plan on declining the club option this offseason and making him a restricted free agent. On the other hand, we could keep him on the cheap for one more year and then sign him using bird rights. Both options are potentially risky. If we decline the option and make him restricted, the Nets or Wizards could come offer him some big deal like say 4 years for $70 mil. If we pick up the option we would have him for one more season and then would have to hope he wants to sign with us. Herb Jones got 4 years at 53 million. That’s now considered a big time bargain and he isn’t even shooting the three well. Does Keon have a case to potentially get more than this if his recent play continues even in the inevitable reduced minutes? What are your thoughts on this cap experts? @twslam07 @Capt. Factorial
I'm not Capt or TW, but there's no shot we let him go be a UFA after next season. We could keep him with bird rights, but you're losing all your team control.
I'd have no problem with a 4/70 type deal if it came to it and he continued to ball out this year. That's very cheap for a starter, especially with the cap expected to continue to rise.
The Herb deal seems like a good comp though and I'm pretty sure he had an all defensive team award when he signed it?
I'd have no problem with a 4/70 type deal if it came to it and he continued to ball out this year. That's very cheap for a starter, especially with the cap expected to continue to rise.
The Herb deal seems like a good comp though and I'm pretty sure he had an all defensive team award when he signed it?
yeh I just figure that because that Herb deal is so great that Keon’s agent will be pushing for more and a team like the Nets have the room to do it. The other thing to consider is how does this affect our standing with the Aprons and luxury tax? I believe TW had Keon getting something around 50 mil but that was in 26/27 if I remember right.