Justin Jackson

Kingster

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#61
I still have hope for Jackson on the offensive end of the floor, but I've seen him get beat too many times off the dribble to have any confidence in him on the defensive end. Oftentimes, he's like a sieve out there, leaving the rest of team's defense to crumble because of his lack of resistance at the periphery. I want Williams and Gabriel to get some real pt at the 3. In the brief time that Williams played I saw him get a steal, get a rebound in traffic, and hit an open 3 point shot. He also showed me he has great speed, which obviously fits in well with this team. Can he handle the ball some? Can he pass? Can he hit a shot off the dribble? All the questions that I'd like to get answers to, but cannot until we see more of him.
 
#62
JJ has shown improvement in the other aspects of the game in the past several games. better rebounding and defense which I attribute to increased effort (in his case that could be called increased aggression cause sometimes it seemed that he was being 'nice' on defense). so he can be servicable but he needs to hit that open 3. if we are going to play with this type of pace and tirw out teams for the entire season, we need all the guys ready to contribute high quality minutes. we have most back to backs this year out of any NBA team.
 
#65
I feel like Jackson is falling a little under the radar...in a bad way. This guy is virtually non-existent on the court. There's nothing he is doing right now that would suggest he's an NBA caliber player. His defense has been awful, he's not hitting shots, and he's contributing little else otherwise. His overall stat line, especially for the amount of minutes he's received (averaging 23 minutes per game) is really, really poor. Like exceptionally poor.

I would like to think that sending him down to Stockton might help, but when he was drafted most scouting reports agreed that he didn't have much room for growth (he was 22, now 23 yrs old) and that he more or less is what he is. He's supposed to be a crafty scorer, but he's not scoring. A low ceiling (or so everyone says) doesn't give me much faith that he will develop further in Stockton. He might build his confidence back up and start producing a little more, but for the most part I think he's simply over matched at the NBA level.

It's still early, so I don't want to declare him a bust. I want to believe there is more there but...he's probably a bust at pick #15.
 
#66
VS. Lakers:

16 Minutes
3 Pts (1-5)
1 Reb
1 Foul

That's legit the entire stat line.

Does he do anything on the court? 3 points, a rebound and a foul in 16 minutes of action is almost hard to do. My highest level of experience is recreational basketball in middle school and I legitimately think I could have mustered up more than 1 board by simply standing near the basket.

I don't usually get to watch the games. He did have a +/- of 1, which was the best on the team (not sure if that's saying much...), so maybe he is making some sort of small impact that I'm not seeing with my own eyes, but good lord almighty those stats look horrid.

UNC basketball is my #1 college team, so I root for this guy more than others. But jeez...
 
#67
Jackson’s career in the nba is DOA.

Hes an absolute liability on both sides of the court. I think he’s by far our worst defender. He looks and moves like a shorter version of Skal. Strangely bent over and many steps to slow. He’s never in front of his man for more than a second. Matador defense.

It would be more forgivable if he was at least a knock down shooting specialist. But his shooting is atrocious.

He’s a great guy, but this is a league of the worlds best. He will still make plenty of money in Europe.

Williams and Shumpert should be 1 and 2 at the SF spot always. With buddy or Bogdan maybe sliding in in smaller lineups.

And hopefully we can land a more elite level SF or more promising prospect by the trade deadline.
 
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#68
I feel like he was always picked as a rotation guy I just wish he could be consistent. He does show flashes which some people don't give him any credit for. Unfortunately I think his clock might be ticking faster than our other young guys. Might be time for a few games with the baby Kings. Maybe he and Giles could get something going and come back as a unit.
 
#69
I feel like he was always picked as a rotation guy I just wish he could be consistent. He does show flashes which some people don't give him any credit for. Unfortunately I think his clock might be ticking faster than our other young guys. Might be time for a few games with the baby Kings. Maybe he and Giles could get something going and come back as a unit.
This.

Most guys picked at 15 are rotation guys at best. Many more are deep benchers or out of the league after their rookie deal.

There's always gonna be one or two guys per draft picked after 15 who are studs, but I don't really think it's fair to attack a GM with hindsight or attack a player picked that low for not being good (although there were a lot of people wanting OG pre-draft, so I guess I understand where some of the angst is coming from).

I'm not saying JJ hasn't been pretty awful, because he has been. But he's flashed some offensive potential. If he can get it together enough to be good for about 8ppg off the bench, I'd say he was worth the 15th pick.

Patience friends! This team is still full of youngins!
 
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#70
He is an example of a successful college player that is not adapting to the NBA well at all.
He is playing against faster, stronger players all the time with more confidence. Nearly everyone that has played bball at any level, knows what that feels like and it is a sick feeling.
 
#72
A play that completely stood out was when he got set up for a wide open 3, hesitated, and then proceeded to dribble into a defender to take a contested long 2. Simply just inexcusable for a wing player and just shows how he doesn't trust himself at all right now.

I do think a week or 2 in the G-League is needed for him. Just let him go down there, be the #1 option and see the ball going through the net a bunch of times.
 
#76
He gets lost on defense sometimes but has length and could affect people if he gets better. He seems to find himself in the right spot a lot on offense but just can't quite seem to get the ball to go in when he needs it to. He doesn't strike me as the same type as B-Mac and Sauce Castillo, and though he has been nothing but frustrating, I don't think we should plan to move on. Maybe he takes a WC$ type arc and just needs that little bit of extra maturity and in 3 years finds it. The tools are there, and he comes from a winning background....like much of our roster.
JJ-North Carolina
Frank-Kansas
WC$-Kentucky
Fox-Kentucky
MB3-Duke
Harry-Duke
Bogdan-Pro!
Yogi-Indiana
And this list makes Buddy-Oklahoma seem "meh"
Probably forgetting someone too... But the guys on this team, including JJ, already know what winning looks like/feels like. That's hard to replace
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#77
I say send him to Stockton to find some mojo, let him tear it up for a few games. Don't let him twist in the wind like this. Get him out of the limelight and just let him play ball for a minute. Meanwhile I wanna see what Troy Williams can do.
Send him to Stockton and let Williams have a shot, and you might never see Jackson again. I'm reminded of when the Red Sox right fielder got injured, and they sent this young unproven player out to right field to fill in while he recovered. That young players name was Ted Williams. No one, including myself remembers the name of the right fielder he filled in for. Hmmm, probably just a coincidence that is last name is also Williams..
 
#78
Send him to Stockton and let Williams have a shot, and you might never see Jackson again. I'm reminded of when the Red Sox right fielder got injured, and they sent this young unproven player out to right field to fill in while he recovered. That young players name was Ted Williams. No one, including myself remembers the name of the right fielder he filled in for. Hmmm, probably just a coincidence that is last name is also Williams..
Bravo on that story, I kept thinking of the Joe DiMaggio example. Same exact thing.
 
#80
Nice story, except that i don' t think , Williams is quite the player Ted Williams or Joe DiMaggio was. In fact, I'm not even sure he is better than Jackson.
I always enjoy a history lesson, so cheers to bajaden for that.
I wish Troy Williams had showed more after the recent article concerning him and JJ, it was a good opportunity to do so but a bit of a let down. If JJ gets sent to Stockton and doesn't return it will be for good reason.
At present, and I don't anticipate this to change, both do little for addressing a legit starting SF need so hopefully Vlade is doing his homework.
 
#81
I always enjoy a history lesson, so cheers to bajaden for that.
I wish Troy Williams had showed more after the recent article concerning him and JJ, it was a good opportunity to do so but a bit of a let down. If JJ gets sent to Stockton and doesn't return it will be for good reason.
At present, and I don't anticipate this to change, both do little for addressing a legit starting SF need so hopefully Vlade is doing his homework.
The fact that this upcoming draft is beyond stacked with SF talent, combined with the fact that we don't even have a pick - it hurts my soul.

With that said, if we keep playing the way we are currently, I won't be totally inconsolable over losing a pick in the ~#15 range.
 
#84
I think Joerger looks at matchups and decides when to play Troy and or Justin.
I was surprised he didn't go to Williams earlier and more last game. Curious to see what he does on 2nd night of back to back on the road... I expect/hope Williams get some good burn here.
 
#86
Send him to Stockton and let Williams have a shot, and you might never see Jackson again. I'm reminded of when the Red Sox right fielder got injured, and they sent this young unproven player out to right field to fill in while he recovered. That young players name was Ted Williams. No one, including myself remembers the name of the right fielder he filled in for. Hmmm, probably just a coincidence that is last name is also Williams..
Don't forget when the starting first baseman of the NY Yankees said, let the young kid play a couple games to get his feet wet and the consecutive games streak of Lou Gehrig began.
 

VF21

#KingsFansForever
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#87
I personally think Jackson is a conundrum they just don't know what to do with. I suspect he does well enough in practice to maintain the coach's faith in him but for whatever reason just doesn't show the same kind of spark and hunger we're seeing from most of the other players on the team.

I like JJ but he just doesn't exhibit the same passion for the game. Can it be learned?
 
#90
I think why he plays over Williams might be a tad more than him being the 15th. He’s more accomplished (college) and skilled. Just further from putting production together than Williams (in no small part due confidence IMO). So is that worth it this year? I guess it’s judgement