John Salmons

One question:

When Kevin returns, which one of these guys do you trade?

There's no way you are going to be able to, in any long term fashion, convince a guy playing at Salmons' level to return to the bench.

Color me a dufus, but here is what I got:

Bibby/Udrih/Douby
Martin/Garcia/Jones
Salmons/Moore/KT
Artest/Williams/Garcia
Miller/Hawes/Moore

Done deal no trades.

React!
 
Color me a dufus, but here is what I got:

Bibby/Udrih/Douby
Martin/Garcia/Jones
Salmons/Moore/KT
Artest/Williams/Garcia
Miller/Hawes/Moore

Done deal no trades.

React!

You're starting a 6'7" SF at PF,w here he will nto rebound, and a poor rebounder in his stead at SF. You also do not have enough balls to go around with all 5 guys wanting to shoot, and three of them not offering much else.
 
Bibby/Udrih/Douby
Martin/Garcia/Jones
Artest/Williams/Garcia
Salmons/Moore/KT
Miller/Hawes/Moore

Okay, so now I just have this problem?

What did you just do??? :eek:

Let's just toss the midgetball strategy. Its a misuse of resources -- you've got a bounty in one area, let's use it to reinforce another. Watching a team run up and down the court, chuck up jumpers, and get pummeled inside is exciting for the tourists, but it isn't going to get you anywhere.
 
What did you just do??? :eek:

Let's just toss the midgetball strategy. Its a misuse of resources -- you've got a bounty in one area, let's use it to reinforce another. Watching a team run up and down the court, chuck up jumpers, and get pummeled inside is exciting for the tourists, but it isn't going to get you anywhere.

Okay.

If you have to trade someone, trade Salmons, otherwise he can be 6th man of the year and like it. You can trade Bibby or Moore anytime, but that does not solve your problem. Keep Artest and Martin, but if you make a sacrifice, (like I said somewhere else) nail down Artest now. They need to feel out whether Artest will stay if he is going to be part of the plan.
 
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trading salmons would depend on what we did with bibby and artest and what they will do with beno this summer... and what draft pick we would end up with as well... cause i kinda thought about the idea of trading salmons/douby to seattle for ridnour.... if we could trade artest for david lee or bibby for gooden or whatever.... a luke/beno pg rotation wouldnt be that bad... if we are too good for a top pg pick this year... but i dont know.... we would still be stuck with thomas and reef... miller isnt that bad anymore...
 
You simply DO NOT trade Salmons. He will not net what a Ron Artest level talent could net in a trade, and he is a perfect replacement for Ron at the 3 if Ron's traded. Ron Artest could concievably WALK at the end of the year, that is a scary proposition. He is probably our best trade asset at the moment and it would be a travesty to watch him walk out the door.
 
What did you just do??? :eek:

Let's just toss the midgetball strategy. Its a misuse of resources -- you've got a bounty in one area, let's use it to reinforce another. Watching a team run up and down the court, chuck up jumpers, and get pummeled inside is exciting for the tourists, but it isn't going to get you anywhere.

Okay Brick, how about this?
Just one day after Kings coach Reggie Theus shared his views about a possible lineup that would include Beno Udrih at the point, Mike Bibby at the two, Kevin Martin at the three, Ron at the four and Mikki or Brad at the five

link

Only thing is that Salmons is not starting, but he would be second in at a couple of spots.
 
Just because a coach has decided to do it doesn't mean it's the smart choice.

I wouldn't want to see it for 48 min but, It can be effective if used in the proper proportion saaaaaaay 15-20 a night. We have (once Martin and Bibby come back) ALOT of talent at the 1-3 spots we have to utilize that talent the best way possible and the best way is not letting Udrich, Garcia, and Salmons get only 7 min a game. Besides it would be different if Ron at the PF spot was losing ground in any way but, if we had a best case PF getting 10-12 reb a game we could lose out but, as it stands our PF combo of KT and Moore aren't even reaching 9 combined where Ron gets more reb than both at 6.1 and also a side note Kevin Martin adds more rebound when he comes back as well in fact he is 4th on the team behind Moore.


All that said with a conventional SF you couldn't do this with but Ron is far from Conventional. Its worth a look see. If I were a coach I would have to try it out and see how it goes instead of standing pat watching talent sit while Moore get 4pt 4reb 0ast a night.
 
Okay Brick, how about this?


link

Only thing is that Salmons is not starting, but he would be second in at a couple of spots.

I think it might be interesting...

I've heard that we might be without Artest for a while (and no, I don't have a link) so Theus will have to get creative in his absence.
 
I've heard that we might be without Artest for a while (and no, I don't have a link) so Theus will have to get creative in his absence.

Wow, that really sucks. Please let us know if you hear any more.

I can see it now, Kings are sucking really bad, but playing the youth. That lottery draft pick gleans just into sight as the injured players return and gel just in time to go on a run and barely miss the playoffs. :rolleyes:
 
I wouldn't want to see it for 48 min but, It can be effective if used in the proper proportion saaaaaaay 15-20 a night. We have (once Martin and Bibby come back) ALOT of talent at the 1-3 spots we have to utilize that talent the best way possible and the best way is not letting Udrich, Garcia, and Salmons get only 7 min a game. Besides it would be different if Ron at the PF spot was losing ground in any way but, if we had a best case PF getting 10-12 reb a game we could lose out but, as it stands our PF combo of KT and Moore aren't even reaching 9 combined where Ron gets more reb than both at 6.1 and also a side note Kevin Martin adds more rebound when he comes back as well in fact he is 4th on the team behind Moore.


All that said with a conventional SF you couldn't do this with but Ron is far from Conventional. Its worth a look see. If I were a coach I would have to try it out and see how it goes instead of standing pat watching talent sit while Moore get 4pt 4reb 0ast a night.
I have to agree. Putting Ron at SF isn't exactly the same thing as Don Nelson's "small ball." Ron is 6'7", 260. He's bigger than our starting small forward, and is a better rebounder. I wouldn't mind that lineup in spurts, if it's effective at producing points. Mike is better off the ball anymore anyways.
 
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