John Salmons Future?

[Hallama]

Two things:

(1) John Salmons is a 33 year old veteran with 11 years of NBA experience now. Evans is a 23 year old who just completed his rookie deal. It's at least understandable why Evans would defer to his coach. Salmons coasting through games at this point in his career because he's already been paid is entirely on him.

(2) Tyreke Evans' "bad play" this season resulted in an 18.1 PER and .105 WS/48 in 31 minutes per game. Salmons this season produced a 10.1 PER and .034 WS/48 in 30 minutes per game. Evans is criticized often for failing to live up to his superstar billing. Salmons is criticized for failing to be a productive NBA player. These two things are not at all alike.

And I do remember how often Salmons gets hot and actually produces like a starting SF -- it's about once every two weeks. Maybe this will refresh your memory -- [game log]. The fact that John Salmons has game and still produces this garbage is exactly why I don't think he's a positive influence on the collective team culture. Get somebody that wants to be here to take his place. Maybe somebody less talented but willing to work hard. Because regardless of what he can do on paper, or which games you selectively remember him making his shots and playing tough defense, the fact remains that the vast majority of the time he's doing nothing of the kind and the numbers back that up.

He'd be so much better coming off the bench 10-15 a game for a playoff team. You pretty much know which Salmons you're going to get within two minutes, so he can't hurt you too much if you see the signs. Keith Smart never saw the signs.

 

[pshn80]

Unless there was a clear use for that money, I'd like to hold on to salmons. Not due to his performance, which is shockingly awful, but for the non guaranteed trade value of his final year.

But let's be clear that he is awful at this point and should rarely see the court.

Don't agree with the "awful." He did not succeed as a starting SF on last year's hardly better than awful team. Arguably his value was near Evans'. That statement may get no other support here but Salmons has value to us as a player- a backup at both his natural SG position and at backup SF.

P.S.: just read your post above, Brick - harsh, really harsh, Salmons deserves much better than that.

 

[sdballer]

Don't agree with the "awful." He did not succeed as a starting SF on last year's hardly better than awful team. Arguably his value was near Evans'. That statement may get no other support here but Salmons has value to us as a player- a backup at both his natural SG position and at backup SF.

P.S.: just read your post above, Brick - harsh, really harsh, Salmons deserves much better than that.

Evans and salmons had the same value??? Possibly the most absurd statement on a board frequently full of absurd statements.

 

[pshn80]

Evans and salmons had the same value??? Possibly the most absurd statement on a board frequently full of absurd statements.

On last year's team? Comparing contributions of each of them? Absurd? I don't think so. I'd give the nod to Evans but by how much? And what difference did it make? Which one would we have been better off without? Just a few question to think about.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

On last year's team? Comparing contributions of each of them? Absurd? I don't think so. I'd give the nod to Evans but by how much? And what difference did it make? Which one would we have been better off without? Just a few question to think about.

Well, if you look at Win Shares, Tyreke had 4.4 last year while Salmons had 1.6 (in more minutes). So from one measure, Tyreke was about 3x more valuable than Salmons.

 

[mac]

Don't agree with the "awful." He did not succeed as a starting SF on last year's hardly better than awful team. Arguably his value was near Evans'. That statement may get no other support here but Salmons has value to us as a player- a backup at both his natural SG position and at backup SF.

P.S.: just read your post above, Brick - harsh, really harsh, Salmons deserves much better than that.

Oh God I feel sick just reading that. Would you care to at least back up your argument somehow? Stats or ... some kind of argument? John Salmons value was near Evans smh. To begin with John was earning more than Evans so he isn't even more valuable per dollar.