steelevt
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for d-will, id let go of tyreke before cousins. d-will/cousins>>>d-will/evans. besides it's hard to give up your future since you cant extend his contract this year and he might walk after next
jazz traded deron williams to nets....
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for d-will, id let go of tyreke before cousins. d-will/cousins>>>d-will/evans. besides it's hard to give up your future since you cant extend his contract this year and he might walk after next
vikinginferno
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Hmm wow, that would have been interesting if we made that deal with Cousins. Personally, I don't think a D-Will/Reke backcourt works well.
Kings Fan Gerard
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The thought of D-Will, arguably the best PG in the league right now, playing for the kings is incredible.
Bricklayer
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Personally I'm not amused this is even out there -- the last thing you want to do with one of your franchise cornerstones is to have his name pop up in an almsot trade you made. Particularly when he's a kid with shaky emotional control.
steelevt
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the life of a kings fan. so close...but some one comes in and steals it with seconds left
vikinginferno
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I would hate to be the team that has to face a DMC for the next 15 years that is pissed at you for trading him though...
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Not necessarily in a good way in that I'm not sure how he and Reke work, adn the guy is apparently such a **** behind the scenes that he chased Jerry Sloan into retirement and is now refusing to board the plane to New Jersey. Might have been swapping a young tempermental kid for a older tempermental man, and one wiht an opt out after next season. Risk there.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
the life of a kings fan. so close...but some one comes in and steals it with seconds left
This is not a no brainer. In a few years it would not even cause me to raise an eyebrow if Cousins is a bigger impact guy than DWill. So few great centers around anymore, and he appears to me to clearly be the secodn most taletned guy at the position already.
steelevt
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while i agree that what cousins can become is far better than what williams is...the possibilities of having one of the top pgs in the game is intriguing. but as i said earlier, i wouldnt give up cousins, especially since williams can leave in a year and we cant extend this year. if it were up to me, id give up tyreke as opposed to cousins because i think williams fits better with cousins far better than with evans.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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Where did that info come from?
Agreed. I wouldn't trade Cousins at this point. I would view Tyreke as being more expendable, especially with a star PG coming back in the deal.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Frankly I'm not sure I would give up either -- a pure PG hasn't won a thing in this league in 20yrs, Deron hasn't won a thing either, and I think he's got an attitude problem.
You understand the temptation, but this whole incident actually shakes my faith in the front office's understanding of its situation and immunity to the desperation to do something flashy.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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First of all, do we have any other sources aside from Ryen Russillo? Not to be mean, but I dont think he is a very good source. You would think NBA insiders like Woj, Spears, Amick, or one of the beat writers would have something on this story before an ESPN Radio fill in guy.
And trading DMC in a deal to bring Williams here makes little sense. A Williams/Evans combo is a worse combination of skills than Kevin Martin/Tyreke Evans.
Now, bringing in Williams for Evans is one thing ( although I may not do that one either ) or bringing in Williams for first round picks and Casspi would be a good move, but being stuck with Williams and Evans and no one else wouldnt work.
Im fine with us making a call to Utah. I actually like it, but I dont believe the names being thrown out, or the sources throwing out those names.
And trading DMC in a deal to bring Williams here makes little sense. A Williams/Evans combo is a worse combination of skills than Kevin Martin/Tyreke Evans.
Now, bringing in Williams for Evans is one thing ( although I may not do that one either ) or bringing in Williams for first round picks and Casspi would be a good move, but being stuck with Williams and Evans and no one else wouldnt work.
Im fine with us making a call to Utah. I actually like it, but I dont believe the names being thrown out, or the sources throwing out those names.
vikinginferno
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It definitely would have had to been more than just first round picks and Casspi, considering they would be getting Harris, Favors, and first round picks from NJ. Would have likely had to have been DMC or Reke + picks which is too much IMO, I wanna see our draft picks develop.
Kings Faithful
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I agree with the general consensus that trading Cousins for Williams would have been a bad thing.
Big Cuz 15
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one of the few point guards that can make me look little..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GztLx4-bfM
for the win..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NNxj_jHzU
demarcus + picks for deron williams? what are they thinking in the front office...
we've got the center and guard of the future combo and they are contemplating breaking it up.. pfft can't believe they even considered that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GztLx4-bfM
for the win..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NNxj_jHzU
demarcus + picks for deron williams? what are they thinking in the front office...
we've got the center and guard of the future combo and they are contemplating breaking it up.. pfft can't believe they even considered that.
vikinginferno
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Looking around, there is only 1 source that has said anything about it, and it's not an extremely reliable source. I would say that it's likely that there was some conversation, but I doubt there was anything about to happen.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Because Deron and Boozer went so far?
He's not the impact guy people try to claim he is, and he only plays one side of the ball. Same as the Boozer/Deron pairing I see no way Deron/Cousins could ever be good enough on defense to do more than a second round appearance here and there.
Vlade4GM
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I don't know if they would be able to go very far, but I do think they'd go farther than they would with Evans, given the same roster. Williams is an experienced PG that knows how to score, shoot, facilitate, and play off the ball. Williams' Jazz got the very most out of their talent, and while that has a lot to do with Jerry Sloan, it also has to do with how good of a player Williams is.
Individual PG defense isn't really that important these days. It's more about team defense now, just look at the Celtics. Besides, Williams can be a decent defender when he wants to be. It's not like he's incapable of doing it.
vikinginferno
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Looks like Crash is headed to Portland...would have liked to try and grab him
http://twitter.com/dwightjaynes/status/40505304697409536
http://twitter.com/dwightjaynes/status/40505304697409536
steelevt
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they've gone a lot further than we have. you bring up the point that pure pgs havent won a championship yet but that doesnt mean it will never happen. and i see plenty of pure pgs getting to the playoffs or annually be contenders while we do nothing. id rather be in the playoffs yearly with a chance to go to the finals as opposed to annually hoping the ping pong balls fall our way...which really hasnt by the way. plus building around williams is much easier than building around evans. again all this is moot since williams already went to the nets but im just saying
Peter_Gibbons
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I'm glad we didn't end up with D-Will given what we were rumored to give up.
Makes no sense for us. D-Will is a drama king so it doesn't help solve any situation on the team first department. No thanks.
I'm happy we got Thronton since we weren't going to resign Landry. Exciting combo guard that can score in bunches, at a low salary.
Makes no sense for us. D-Will is a drama king so it doesn't help solve any situation on the team first department. No thanks.
I'm happy we got Thronton since we weren't going to resign Landry. Exciting combo guard that can score in bunches, at a low salary.
Peter_Gibbons
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Bballkingsrock
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I definately would have pulled the trigger on this trade because of one reason:
If we had Deron Williams, Free Agents would come to Sacramento to play with Mr. Williams such as Al Horford, Jeff Green, etc.
If we had Deron Williams, Free Agents would come to Sacramento to play with Mr. Williams such as Al Horford, Jeff Green, etc.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You know, its possible the Maloofs may even have been thinking that given that report about them considering going to Anaheim to increase our FA prospects, but Horford already resigned with Atlanta, and one of the things Deron was actually lamenting in recent weeks was how hard to was to convince free agents to join him in Utah. Not sure joining him in Sacto would be that different.
In any case we can assume we can sign a Jeff Green level FA without his help. A true star? Maybe not. But a third wheel/support player -- those guys go anwyhere they can get paid.
Peter_Gibbons
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I had the same thought of Anaheim being a factor in the Maloofs' decision for attracting FAs in the future. It would definitely help.
The thing with trading for DWill is that he may not resign. Now the news comes out that he is furious about being traded to NJ and don't want to go, there is a chance that he does not resign with them. If that happens, the Nets just loss their #3 pick Favors, Harris and 2 first rounders with this year's most likely in the top 5. Thats a lot to give up for a 20+ game rental.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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And thats all we need. We already have the #1 and #2 guy.
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