Jackson says he'll miss Sac and that Stromile didn't want to come here.

[KP]

[font=verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Jackson says he'll miss Sacramento, teammates, fans


By Sam Amick -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 6:13 pm PDT Tuesday, July 26, 2005

He won't be gone for good just yet.

The Bobby Jackson cutout that greets travelers at the Sacramento airport's security gate remains, as do the mortgage company billboards with his bald-headed, smiling likeness at various points in town. And he's keeping the house and 2 acres he bought just last month in Granite Bay, where he and his family let their roots sink in while the Kings community latched on to Jackson himself.

But Jackson knows the cardboard version just isn't the same as the real thing. And four days after being told he was traded to Memphis, he wishes that one was staying here too.

"Who wouldn't be upset, because I've been there for six years?" Jackson said from his hometown of Salisbury, N.C. "I had a great time. I have nothing bad to say about (the Kings). It's just a tough situation for me and my family, but things happen. You have to prepare."

Which he wasn't. It had been a month since Jackson wondered if he may have been trade bait. His agent, Andy Miller, told him in mid-June that Memphis was interested in a possible deal involving Grizzlies forward Stromile Swift. But according to Jackson, Swift didn't want to play in Sacramento, ending the negotiations and returning Jackson to his comfort zone.

Then came Friday morning, when Miller called again with news of much more than a rumor. Jackson, who played five seasons with the Kings and missed much of the last two with various injuries, had been traded. The three-team deal brought Memphis guard Bonzi Wells to Sacramento, sent Kings center Greg Ostertag back to Utah, and sent Utah's young swingman Kirk Snyder, center Curtis Borchardt and guard Raul Lopez to Memphis.

"Once I heard, it was like, 'Man, you can't be serious,'" Jackson said. "I love the city of Sacramento. They embraced me and I embraced them....It's going to be tough to leave all that behind. I've just got to move on to a situation where you make the best of it."

For more details, see Wednesday's Bee.

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--Nice little article on Bobby, I could've put it in the NBA section but until he gets on that plane and the CBA is finished Bobby is still a King. The interesting part is what Bobby said about Stromile Swift, guess Houston is more desirable than Sacramento now.

 

[VF21]

It's in the right spot, KP.

Besides, if you'd put it in the NBA forum, I'd just have to be merging duplicates all evening.

As far as Stromile Swift preferrring Houston, I really don't care...

 

[Bricklayer]

I do. That's one of those little things that hurts -- we could use a Stromile Swift, and now a team which is a competitor and roared past us down the stretch last year is strengthened by him while we are still flailing around. Its that Sacto FA problem again. A tactical disadvantage when dealing with young rich kids.

 

[vj9999]

Bobby is pure class. Good luck to him.

 

[Kings113]

Rockets still are weak at the SG/PG spots, don't even have an SG at the moment, I don't think. Getting Swift was big though.

 

[Variant]

Swift would have been nice. I think we have gained the perception that we are a team on the way down while the Rockets appear to be on the cusp of getting to the next level.

Maybe this year we can turn that image around a little bit.

 

[Kings113]

We will, WHEN, we we get a defensive/rebounding PF.

 

[PixelPusher]

I do. That's one of those little things that hurts -- we could use a Stromile Swift, and now a team which is a competitor and roared past us down the stretch last year is strengthened by him while we are still flailing around. Its that Sacto FAS problem again. A tactical disadvantage when dealing with young rich kids.

But hey, Gary Payton and Antoine Walker would love to come here!

 

[captain bill]

At least he didn't break down like Doug. I wonder if those billboards are gonna stay up? As for Stromile not wanting to come here, I won't sweat it. Other players have indicated that they do want to come here, so you win some, you lose some.

 

[VF21]

I do. That's one of those little things that hurts -- we could use a Stromile Swift, and now a team which is a competitor and roared past us down the stretch last year is strengthened by him while we are still flailing around. Its that Sacto FA problem again. A tactical disadvantage when dealing with young rich kids.

Call me crazy, but I'm becoming more and more convinced - for what reason I cannot exactly tell - that Petrie has something definite in mind. And I don't think it ever involved Stromile Swift.

 

[Padrino]

Call me crazy, but I'm becoming more and more convinced - for what reason I cannot exactly tell - that Petrie has something definite in mind. And I don't think it ever involved Stromile Swift.

i think you may be right. but i also think that petrie's under a lotta heat right now, especially from the maloofs. at the start of this winning kings era, petrie, adelman, and the maloofs took a basement team and turned them into a contender, and they had fun at the same time. things obviously arent as fun as they used to be in kingsland, but the maloofs still wanna put a winning product on the court, and they have limited tools and resources to do so. their primary asset in this off season is, of course, the one and the only geoff petrie. so, considering the pressure he's facing, i hope petrie stays as cool as he's always been, and makes the necessary moves, rather than the desperation moves.

 

[quick dog]

I still think Petrie is packaging Bibby, Miller, and, or Peja as we contemplate our situation. Petrie can not win with his existing hand. He is going to have to draw three cards in this game of poker and hope he gets really lucky. This season will only get uglier, and we will be lucky to make the Playoffs in 2005-2006 at this rate.

 

[captain bill]

I wouldn't go that far. Pho, the Spurs, Dallas, and Houston are the only real sho-ins. Seattle, Sac, Denver, Memphis, Minnesota, the Lakers and the Warriors are probably the only other teams with shots to get in. I'm confident we can be better than Memphis, GS or LA, and probably Minnesota, too. Which means we can get in at 7 at the lowest. This team may not be contending, but missing the playoffs is still a stretch.

 

[Kings113]

I still think Petrie is packaging Bibby, Miller, and, or Peja as we contemplate our situation. Petrie can not win with his existing hand. He is going to have to draw three cards in this game of poker and hope he gets really lucky. This season will only get uglier, and we will be lucky to make the Playoffs in 2005-2006 at this rate.

You're too premature, and jumping to conclusions like a race horse out of a gate.

Petrie always begins doing his stuff after 7/20 (only 2-3 things have been done in late July the last 3-4 years), hence the Wells trade. Most of it is done in August-on, if you look at the past years:

http://www.hoopshype.com/general_managers/geoff_petrie.htm

Not counting draft picks of course.

Phoenix won't be as good as last year if they lose Joe Johnson, meaning they'll have to pull guys off their bench to start (Bell/Jackson), who were there to try and add depth. Even if Joe does stay, they'll still have a pretty weak bench.

 

[ONEZERO]

It don't matter what the rockets do if mcgrady is on the team.... It just seems that every team he's on loses.... He's just one of those players that can't rally a team behind him.... I knows he only had 1 year with a solid team, but his teams tend to choke..... 2003: up 3-1 against detroit and the magic lose.... 2005: up 2-0(on dallas' home court) and lose in 7 to the mavs by 40!!!!.... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, don't be too worried about the rockets... And for swift, at first I said we gotta get him, but after some close looking @ him I realized he wasn't all that great.

As for bobby, all I can say is WOW! That guy is a true class act.... Sure as hell is gonna be tough to get used to him not being in sacto, but we got bonzi which I think is a good step in the right direction... Next step is to get that big man... Petries got something planned... He's let a lot of oppurtunities for players go without any effort to bring them to sacto(or so we just didn't find out anything)

GOOD LUCK BOBBY.... Its a good thing he went to memphis, a team I like, and not the spurs, lakers, or mavs or any other team I can't stand.

 

[209KingsFan]

It don't matter what the rockets do if mcgrady is on the team.... It just seems that every team he's on loses.... He's just one of those players that can't rally a team behind him.... I knows he only had 1 year with a solid team, but his teams tend to choke..... 2003: up 3-1 against detroit and the magic lose.... 2005: up 2-0(on dallas' home court) and lose in 7 to the mavs by 40!!!!.... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, don't be too worried about the rockets... And for swift, at first I said we gotta get him, but after some close looking @ him I realized he wasn't all that great.

As for bobby, all I can say is WOW! That guy is a true class act.... Sure as hell is gonna be tough to get used to him not being in sacto, but we got bonzi which I think is a good step in the right direction... Next step is to get that big man... Petries got something planned... He's let a lot of oppurtunities for players go without any effort to bring them to sacto(or so we just didn't find out anything)

GOOD LUCK BOBBY.... Its a good thing he went to memphis, a team I like, and not the spurs, lakers, or mavs or any other team I can't stand.

How can you adequately judge a guy who's been on perennial losers his whole career?

The Magic loss in '03 can be chalked up to a shear overmatch. The Pistons were just that much better than them, and when they found their groove, the Magic were done, period.

This year's loss to the Mavs, granted was unexplainable.

But T-Mac is arguably the best 2-guard in the game today. Any team that has T-Mac, adds a solid 4 like Swift, and has a center like Yao Ming should definately be watched. To say that they won't (or can't) be successful this year is foolish.

 

[ONEZERO]

I think there's a good reason they were perrenial losers, don't u think? **cough**tmac**cough**... I used to always back him up, but he's the best 2 guard in the game? Over who? Iverson? No. Kobe? No. Carter? No. Wade? No. U can still consider lebron a 2 guard and mcgradys nowhere close to lebron... All tmac does at end of games is pass the ball or try to shoot 3's... Don't ever put tmac anywhere close to any of the elite 2 guards.... EVER!

 

[209KingsFan]

I think there's a good reason they were perrenial losers, don't u think? **cough**tmac**cough**... I used to always back him up, but he's the best 2 guard in the game? Over who? Iverson? No. Kobe? No. Carter? No. Wade? No. U can still consider lebron a 2 guard and mcgradys nowhere close to lebron... All tmac does at end of games is pass the ball or try to shoot 3's... Don't ever put tmac anywhere close to any of the elite 2 guards.... EVER!

Don't know what planet you're from, but T-Mac is just as good as those guys (save Kobe and maybe LeBron).

Carter: and just what has he done that T-mac hasn't? He's been on just as many losers, but has performed much less than McGrady. I'd say that T-mac is the better guard--BY FAR.

AI: well AI is good no doubt. But he is a POINT GUARD with different responsibilities than a 2.

Wade: I think the jury's still out with this guy. Has shown flashes of greatness so far, but I think its just too soon to say that he is BETTER than T-mac. On the same level, sure, but how can you say a guy who's been in the league 2 years is better than a proven veteran like McGrady? Oh yeah, he's a POINT GUARD too!

Just because you have some sort of a delusion that T-mac is overrated doesn't mean the rest of the league agrees with you. Most GMs would take T-mac in a HEARTBEAT, and is a top 3 (yes top 3) 2-guard in this league.

 

[ONEZERO]

AI is a point guard? Just cause he played it for 1 year doesn't mean he's a point guard.

 

[captain bill]

It don't matter what the rockets do if mcgrady is on the team.... It just seems that every team he's on loses.... He's just one of those players that can't rally a team behind him.... I knows he only had 1 year with a solid team, but his teams tend to choke..... 2003: up 3-1 against detroit and the magic lose.... 2005: up 2-0(on dallas' home court) and lose in 7 to the mavs by 40!!!!.... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, don't be too worried about the rockets... And for swift, at first I said we gotta get him, but after some close looking @ him I realized he wasn't all that great.

As for bobby, all I can say is WOW! That guy is a true class act.... Sure as hell is gonna be tough to get used to him not being in sacto, but we got bonzi which I think is a good step in the right direction... Next step is to get that big man... Petries got something planned... He's let a lot of oppurtunities for players go without any effort to bring them to sacto(or so we just didn't find out anything)

GOOD LUCK BOBBY.... Its a good thing he went to memphis, a team I like, and not the spurs, lakers, or mavs or any other team I can't stand.

TMac is better than Wade, no doubt, Wade is far too young and is nothing without Shaq and the rest of the Heat. Carter? No way. If you say TMac isn't good because he can't win the big games, how can you say Carter is good? He's never done anything, and couldn't even help out that much in New Jersey. Iverson has always been surrounded by good players and has always made those teams fall apart. Yeah, he might have got a ring if it weren't for the Lakers, but did you see how quick that team came apart? Kobe I would say is very good, but give McGrady the same opportunities as Kobe and I think he would be better. He is easily within the elite guards in the game today. And there is no way you can lay the playoff collapses on Tmac, especially last year. If Yao was half of what he's chalked up to be they would have advanced no problem. McGrady poured out his heart and the team let him down.

 

[209KingsFan]

AI is a point guard? Just cause he played it for 1 year doesn't mean he's a point guard.

Dude, how much ball do you watch? AI has been runnin' the point since he was in college.

I'd hate to see a 6-foot nothing guard at two...

 

[ONEZERO]

Wow, some of u guys have the worst arguments ever.... Carter has never done anything in the playoffs? Hmmm.... My brain tells me that he went to the second round of the playoffs in '01.... How many 50 point games did he have in that 7 game series against the sixers? At least 2... 2nd round? That's farther than mcgrady... Wade is too young and is nothing without shaq and co? Hmmm.... My brain also tells me that he went to the second round of the playoffs against tha pacers and took them all the way to game 6..... Oh and I forgot, he was a ROOKIE and had no shaq and co.... Iversons had great players around him and had those teams fall apart? Uh ok... Sure buddy.... Mutumbo? I forgot he's arguably one of the best centers to ever dawn a sixers jersey... Ya right... Eric snow? Wasn't he a magic johnson type point guard... Ya right.... Oh but I forgot about mr 3 point shot, korver.... He's as good as reggie miller right? Com on', that was a weak argument on ur part.... Oh and I forgot that iverson played point in his philly days while snow was there.... Must have slipped my attention...

Mcgrady is just a "player" in this league... An above average player at most... And nothing more... I don't know why u guys are so fascinated about tmac anyways... Numbers are decieving.

 

[Bricklayer]

Mcgrady is just a "player" in this league... An above average player at most... And nothing more... I don't know why u guys are so fascinated about tmac anyways... Numbers are decieving.

that woosh was the sound of your credibility just flying out the window.

 

[Bonzi_Wells]

I still think Petrie is packaging Bibby, Miller, and, or Peja as we contemplate our situation. Petrie can not win with his existing hand. He is going to have to draw three cards in this game of poker and hope he gets really lucky. This season will only get uglier, and we will be lucky to make the Playoffs in 2005-2006 at this rate.

Uhhh? What are you talking about? The current state of the team is not what I would want BUT they are a 50 win team right now.

 

[6th]

that woosh was the sound of your credibility just flying out the window.

Yep...completely gone now.

 

[209KingsFan]

AI is a point guard? Just cause he played it for 1 year doesn't mean he's a point guard.

What about this gem?

 

[MaNiac42]

hopefully one day hes gonna be back...

 

[VF21]

that woosh was the sound of your credibility just flying out the window.

Quick...

Shut the window and step away.

 

[SacTownKid]

We could have used a Stromile Swift, but I myself am glad that we got Bonzi instead. If I had to chose between the two I would choose Bonzi hands down. Of course I may be biased b/c I never thought Stromile was as good as his hype.

 

[ParniValjak]

We could have used a Stromile Swift, but I myself am glad that we got Bonzi instead. If I had to chose between the two I would choose Bonzi hands down. Of course I may be biased b/c I never thought Stromile was as good as his hype.

Word.

To me Stromile is a classic example of overhyped player. He is ain't that good. He is athletic, can dunk and can block shots but apart from that his game is so limited. For someone who is 6'9 and can jump out of the gym, he should be a monster rebounder but he is below average. His offensive game is all about dunking on people and a very un-reliable mid range jump shot. His basketball IQ is low and for all his athletic ability he is a very average defender.

If we signed him up, it would have been a sign of desperation.