It's tough to be a fan...

[VF21]

I am honestly numb.

I'm not angry. It wouldn't do any good.

I'm not sad. I think a part of me was already convinced something would happen to cancel out the "no turnip" karma.

I'm not anything. I'm just to the point where it dosn't matter any more.

I have been a fan of the NBA for over 40 years. I have loved the Sacramento Kings since they played their first game with my home town as part of their name. I have devoted more time and energy following this sport than most people who do it for a living.

Now, once again, just when I'm starting to feel a little optimistic about a decent showing in round 1 of the playoffs, despite game 1, something happens that knocks me down, rips my heart out, and then leaves it there on the ground to be devoured by jackals.

At what point does a devoted fan simply stop loving the game that's been a big part of her life for the majority of her life? It's not because I don't still love the game, because God knows I do. A well-executed pick and roll still gets my adrenalin pumping. A blocked shot or a steal can make me jump with joy. Watching the Kings pass the ball with perfection and get the open shot is poetry.

On the other hand there simply have been, I'm afraid, too many heartbreaks. The flagrant 2 decision issued by the NBA this morning may actually have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

There are certain rules in the NBA I think are over-reactionary when enforced on a "zero tolerance" basis. This is one of them. But I could be wrong. I just don't know any more and it's to the point where pretty much all the fight has gone out of me to even argue about it.

I love our Kings. I just honestly don't know if I even want to watch tomorrow.

Thank you, David Stern.

 

[tyrant]

very hard time swallowing the loss.

mike bibby and artest cant do this alone. the highest 2 scorers for the kings on saturday. sometimes hustle and determination can make up for a few lost skills on the offense/defense side. its time our role players start getting on the floor and taking some charges. i was so excited for the game. i scheduled my entire day around it. only to witness this blowout. very hard to see this team work up so much momentum after the all-star break and not even bother to show up mentally for the game. hope adelman was getting things straight when he closed that curtain.

 

[VF21]

tyrant - I'm pouring my heart out here and you're talking about Miller getting a rebound? Whoa. Way to MISS THE POINT.

I've changed the title of the thread. I really didn't want this to just be another discussion of what the team should or shouldn't do. Sorry for any confusion...

 

[PixelPusher]

This is a new low for Kings fans; it's one thing to be cheated out of the thrill of victory...now the league cheating us out of the agony of defeat. It's like a boxer who slugs his way through the ranking to finally match up with Mohammed Ali, only to have his right arm cut off.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I feel your pain VF21... I have to teach tommorow night and will tape the game... I honestly may have to peek at the score and decide if it is worth palying when I get home.

 

[El Paljasso]

I love our Kings. I just honestly don't know if I even want to watch tomorrow.

We pledge ourselves to be bound together as brothers in a life and death friendship, sharing alike in fortune and in trouble

It's the world against us. And us against the world!!

 

[quick dog]

This is basically Post Game-Six Syndrome (PGSS). There is no cure.

 

[tyrant]

i stopped watching at half time. then i turned on ESPN radio and they said the score was 70-36. i almost got into a wreck.

 

[Purple Reign]

Keep Your Head Up Kings Fans!!!

I put this in another thread but no one responded. I think this is appropriate here.


After a little research on Basketball Reference.com, in the Rick Adelman era (624 regular season games, 63 playoff games, 395 regular season wins, 32 playoff wins).....

Kings are 16-7 after 20 point losses. It is amazing that in 687 games that the Kings have loss by more than 20 points only 23 times. But that they have bounced back to win the very next game MORE TIMES THAN NOT tells me of a sense of making adjustments and being resilent. Memorable games that stick out.

If the Kings can find a way to pull out A WIN without Artest, be resiliant, make adjustments, NO TELLING WHAT CAN HAPPEN FOR THE REST OF THE SERIES!!!!

 

[Jechtsphere]

I know how you feel, this news just practically drained the life out of me, If It was blatent by Ron then fine so be it, but it wasn't.

I remember a few years back when Vlade was still around in the Playoffs Shaq turned into the hoop and elbowed Vlade in the face and knocked a tooth out...was he suspended no, Ginobli wasn't hurt and was no where near intentional, the worst they should of done is fine him, not suspend the teams star in the PLAYOFFS.

I'll watch the game because I can't help but to watch.

 

[Bricklayer]

This is basically Post Game-Six Syndrome (PGSS). There is no cure.

No, Game 6...that was stealing a series, a TITLE we should have won. This...we were probably going to lose anyway. Its an injustice, but the consequences, what its taking away from us, are not really comparable.

And you never really know -- there is a variety of the mental scenario here that actually results in us putting up a good show, maybe even winning it. We get mad. They get overconfident. You never know.

 

[BMiller52]

Yeah I hear you VF. I'm sick of something always happening when things look good. I'm sick of how the league can't find a way to get themselves out of the spurs' boxers. I'm sick of how there is a double standard. I'm sick of how the spurs can play dirty and get away with it, but you touch them and it's a foul. It's almost to the point where I don't even care anymore because I know something's going to happen.

 

[tyrant]

OK, enough is enough, time to bring out the old black 2002 jerseys.

 

[uolj]

I'm wearing mine right now.

 

[love_them_kings]

I am honestly numb.

I'm not angry. It wouldn't do any good.

I'm not sad. I think a part of me was already convinced something would happen to cancel out the "no turnip" karma.

I'm not anything. I'm just to the point where it dosn't matter any more.

I have been a fan of the NBA for over 40 years. I have loved the Sacramento Kings since they played their first game with my home town as part of their name. I have devoted more time and energy following this sport than most people who do it for a living.

Now, once again, just when I'm starting to feel a little optimistic about a decent showing in round 1 of the playoffs, despite game 1, something happens that knocks me down, rips my heart out, and then leaves it there on the ground to be devoured by jackals.

At what point does a devoted fan simply stop loving the game that's been a big part of her life for the majority of her life? It's not because I don't still love the game, because God knows I do. A well-executed pick and roll still gets my adrenalin pumping. A blocked shot or a steal can make me jump with joy. Watching the Kings pass the ball with perfection and get the open shot is poetry.

On the other hand there simply have been, I'm afraid, too many heartbreaks. The flagrant 2 decision issued by the NBA this morning may actually have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

There are certain rules in the NBA I think are over-reactionary when enforced on a "zero tolerance" basis. This is one of them. But I could be wrong. I just don't know any more and it's to the point where pretty much all the fight has gone out of me to even argue about it.

I love our Kings. I just honestly don't know if I even want to watch tomorrow.

Thank you, David Stern.

VF21- I know what you mean. As a Kings fans, there have been many highs over the years, but there have been many times that are low. Very low. So low that you feel that this, finally, must be rock bottom. I'm feeling very down today too, because I was looking forward to seeing the Kings come back tomorrow and show the Spurs what they are really made of. Now, well, I'm just scared, and not sure what to expect.

But, try to keep your head up. This is bad, but it's not the darkest of times we've seen, and we can't desert a team and sport we love just because of a bad call. Or a bad trade. Or ill timed injuries. Or missing free throws. Or any other of the things that over the past years have made us as Kings fans, want to waive the white flag & give up on this sport.

 

[VF21]

OK, enough is enough, time to bring out the old black 2002 jerseys.

You just don't get it, do you? It's not about a stupid jersey. (And BTW? We lost in those, too...)

 

[piksi]

Well there is really only one thing we can do - to cheer even harder

 

[101 6 7]

I am honestly numb.

I'm not angry. It wouldn't do any good.

I'm not sad. I think a part of me was already convinced something would happen to cancel out the "no turnip" karma.

I'm not anything. I'm just to the point where it dosn't matter any more.

I have been a fan of the NBA for over 40 years. I have loved the Sacramento Kings since they played their first game with my home town as part of their name. I have devoted more time and energy following this sport than most people who do it for a living.

Now, once again, just when I'm starting to feel a little optimistic about a decent showing in round 1 of the playoffs, despite game 1, something happens that knocks me down, rips my heart out, and then leaves it there on the ground to be devoured by jackals.

At what point does a devoted fan simply stop loving the game that's been a big part of her life for the majority of her life? It's not because I don't still love the game, because God knows I do. A well-executed pick and roll still gets my adrenalin pumping. A blocked shot or a steal can make me jump with joy. Watching the Kings pass the ball with perfection and get the open shot is poetry.

On the other hand there simply have been, I'm afraid, too many heartbreaks. The flagrant 2 decision issued by the NBA this morning may actually have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

There are certain rules in the NBA I think are over-reactionary when enforced on a "zero tolerance" basis. This is one of them. But I could be wrong. I just don't know any more and it's to the point where pretty much all the fight has gone out of me to even argue about it.

I love our Kings. I just honestly don't know if I even want to watch tomorrow.

Thank you, David Stern.

You sound like a pre-February Pacer's fan.

They are happier now, even though their team has less talent. Peja, although disappointing in game 1, is available for game 2.

 

[Bricklayer]

You sound like a pre-February Pacer's fan.

They are happier now, even though their team has less talent. Peja, although disappointing in game 1, is available for game 2.

Get used to the disappointment.

 

[tyrant]

You just don't get it, do you? It's not about a stupid jersey. (And BTW? We lost in those, too...)

yeh you're right. i just thought it would pump up the fans to see the old black. it may also do something for bibby. give him a little reminder of the performance he had in 2002. maybe that'll pump him up as well. you never know.

 

[NewMonkey]

VF21 - I'm right there with you. I share your disappointment and add an absolute disgust with the NBA. I cannot imagine how anyone would think this is the correct call. I'll agree with Brick that this doesn't sting as much as Game 6 did (which I will NEVER get over) but it feels like the same kind of meddling to me.

Artest is being punished for his past when he really ought to be given the benefit of the doubt for good behavior in the present. I love the game, but I HATE the league.

 

[VF21]

You sound like a pre-February Pacer's fan.

They are happier now, even though their team has less talent. Peja, although disappointing in game 1, is available for game 2.

This isn't about Peja, who did his fair share of breaking my heart over the time he was here. He's being utilized totally differently in Indiana; he wasn't touted by their management as one of the "core" players they would rebuild their team around as he was here...

Again, this isn't about Peja.

It's about one too many kicks while we're down; one too many disappointments; one too many false hopes.

At least that's what it is for me right now. Come tomorrow I hope and pray with every fiber of my being that the old joy returns, that I start thinking about the game early in the day and make sure everything is done ahead of time so I can enjoy it and do the daily PBP thread.

At this moment in time, I don't know if any of that will be possible.

Maybe it's post traumatic shock finally setting in...dating all the way back to Feb. 23, 2005.

 

[101 6 7]

This isn't about Peja, who did his fair share of breaking my heart over the time he was here. He's being utilized totally differently in Indiana; he wasn't touted by their management as one of the "core" players they would rebuild their team around as he was here...

Again, this isn't about Peja.

It's about one too many kicks while we're down; one too many disappointments; one too many false hopes.

At least that's what it is for me right now. Come tomorrow I hope and pray with every fiber of my being that the old joy returns, that I start thinking about the game early in the day and make sure everything is done ahead of time so I can enjoy it and do the daily PBP thread.

At this moment in time, I don't know if any of that will be possible.

Maybe it's post traumatic shock finally setting in...dating all the way back to Feb. 23, 2005.

touche.

 

[RoyalDiva]

I did get one memory flashback reading the online Bee today-they pointed out that wayyyy back in 1999, we got the same blow-out by the Jazz in the first game. Had totally forgotten that one. I was working at the old folk's home on Sat. and finally got a chance to turn on the TV in the entertainment room halfway through the game. Left the room pretty quickly....so did every other employee/Kings fan who did the same.

 

[BLNINJA #81]

What Ron did was wrong, fine. But Manu wasn't any less innocent, and when I think of things that aren't fair I get crazy heated! Even tho my latest thread was locked, it felt great to get it off my chest...

But I will NEVER forget what took place in '02. Unfair to the core and too painful... so much so I got soo mad because that's all I can think about when something "unfair" goes down.


Sorry to change the subject so wildly, but I guess that's my little version of why it's tough to be a fan. Nothing is fair in life I guess (even if it's for leisure!).

 

[Londonking]

Okay....rooting for our Kings is no easy assignment.

But how much sweeter the 'highs' are when we regularly have to deal with 'basement moments'.

In comparison, it would be so tedious to support the Spurs or Detroit.

Of course, that doesnt make having to deal with decisons such as the Artest suspension any easier. But also reflect on how good it felt to qualify for the playoffs whn it looked for all the world as though we wouldnt make .500 let alone 8th place.

This team can be worthy of the wonderful fan base who gather here. The matchup against the spurs was never going to be a walk in the park, but tomorrow im sure we will see our team come out to play.

It is often darkest before the dawn.....

GO KINGS !!

 

[kingkung]

No, Game 6...that was stealing a series, a TITLE we should have won. This...we were probably going to lose anyway. Its an injustice, but the consequences, what its taking away from us, are not really comparable.

And you never really know -- there is a variety of the mental scenario here that actually results in us putting up a good show, maybe even winning it. We get mad. They get overconfident. You never know.

Way to put it into perspective, Brick. I said I'd never forget it, and I still haven't forgotten it. It made me more cynical of a person, and those that know me know that I am (or was) as hopelessly optimistic as they come. To make a statement and fine Artest for a series we're not likely to advance, okay. To draw the ire and prey on the helplessness of the best basketball fans in the nation just for the profit of one extra game... that's pathetic.

 

[Jerryaki]

And you never really know -- there is a variety of the mental scenario here that actually results in us putting up a good show, maybe even winning it. We get mad. They get overconfident. You never know.

that's what i'm hoping...

 

[ImaKingsFan]

It is tough to be a Kings fan and for many reasons on any given night. But because Artest pulled a stupid stunt I will not blame anyone but him. I watched the video over and over and over and it sure looks like to me that he intentionally threw his forearm in the direction of Manus head. So what if manu did an Oscar worthy acting job...Artest should not have been so stupid to hit him in the head. Fair or not he has the reputation that he has earned over the years and of course he has earned more intense scrutiny than players who are not known for dirty play. It also looked to me like Manu intentionally got away with one--but none of that excuses Rons poor choices. I am hoping the team can regroup and still get the W without him. I know he is one of the main reasons we even made the playoffs--but his getting suspended for game two could well be summed up "Ron giveth and Ron taketh away" I hope the team has the will to win without him.

 

[chelle]

This isn't about Peja, who did his fair share of breaking my heart over the time he was here. He's being utilized totally differently in Indiana; he wasn't touted by their management as one of the "core" players they would rebuild their team around as he was here...

Again, this isn't about Peja.

It's about one too many kicks while we're down; one too many disappointments; one too many false hopes.

At least that's what it is for me right now. Come tomorrow I hope and pray with every fiber of my being that the old joy returns, that I start thinking about the game early in the day and make sure everything is done ahead of time so I can enjoy it and do the daily PBP thread.

At this moment in time, I don't know if any of that will be possible.

Maybe it's post traumatic shock finally setting in...dating all the way back to Feb. 23, 2005.

I think it dates back to when he crumpled to the floor in Dallas. It's hard right now. I knw what you meant about the numb feeling. I'm trying to hope that they truly BAND TOGETHER. The "Us against the world" mentality is more true than ever. I imagine they are as down right now as any team could be. that is why I am going to try to cheer even more. Not that it will affect them any since they are in TX, but maybe good vibes will help. Maybe they will come and "Win one for the Gipper!"

I will not get my hopes up - it is basically gone- but I will watch. I will make myself believe that this will unite and focus them. Even if they do not win. THEY WILL PLAY TOGETHER AS THE TEAM I LOVE. THEY WILL.

Not really feeling the bold letters right now - GO KINGS.