It would be just like the Kings...

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To drop a game they should win in Milwaukee. The Bucks have struggled at
6-12 overall, but were able to hang with the Kings at Arco (despite a horrible shooting night from Michael Redd) and are 5-4 at home. TP will have his team playing hard and the Kings may be looking ahead to the Lakers. Don't screw it up Kings!
 
Don't screw it up, Kings?

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And this, after your last post saying the Kings don't know how to put a game away.

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Hmmmmm.
 
Just like a team that has won 13 of 15, and the only 2 losses going to Minny, an elite team? I don't think so...

Lets be optimistic!

GO KINGS!
 
Perhaps in years past we would seem to drop the ocassional inexplicable one to a bad team, but thus far this year we've been very consistent -- you're not at our level, we win. The only non-playoff team (at this point) we have lost to is Houston (a team some (idiots) picked to reach the Finals), in the middle of our opening ugliness, in OT, on their home floor.


Our losses:
Dallas: 15-8 (road)
San Antonio: 17-5 (road)
Houston: 9-12 (road)
Seattle: 17-4 (road)
Minnesota:13-7 (home)
Minnesota: 13-7 (road)
 
VF21 said:
Don't screw it up, Kings?

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And this, after your last post saying the Kings don't know how to put a game away.

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Hmmmmm.
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First of all, I don't understand your point.

Second, they know how to consistently beat bad teams (they often have lapses when it comes to putting them away), but they haven't learned how maintain leads against top notch teams and hold them off consistently. The Lakers and Minnesota would tell you that!

Why should I give the Kings a pass on any game. This game is huge as were many winable games last season that cost this team home-court advantage against Minnesota. Hindsight is 20/20, but I see the Kings winning Game 7 last season if it had been at Arco.

What in the end cost them that series was the Game 2 loss that they blew.......Why VF21.........watch your VHS copy that you likely dubbed from that game last season and you will see a mental collapse like no other! You will see a game that epitomizes the problems that have plagued this team for years. Games like Milwaukee on the road are must wins and unfortunately are not guaranteed!
 
Our losses:
Dallas: 15-8 (road)
San Antonio: 17-5 (road)
Houston: 9-12 (road)
Seattle: 17-4 (road)
Minnesota:13-7 (home)
Minnesota: 13-7 (road)


Man we really need to win one from each of those series, then i would at least know that when the playoffs do come, that we aren't going to be underdogs, or SOL.

Don't get me wrong, I have lots of faith in our team, I just know that it would shut a lot of critics up if we could win some of those big games, at least 1 out of the series.
 
piksi said:
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Rise Guys had Jerry Reynolds on this morning. He said that Peja's knee is very swollen and he won't be able to play.

So, do you start Barnes, which is probably the simplest thing? The other options: Start Christie at 3 and Jackson at 3, and go small, or do something a bit creative and go with Christie at 3 and either Martin or Evans at 2.

This does point out the depth issue that we were discussing in another thread. Maybe it's not even a depth issue, but more of "What is Rick Adelman's comfort level with playing young guys?" issue.
 
I'd just go with Barnes and see what happens. Guy has good all around skills + if his game is on, we'll be fine. If it turns out he's not, then we can probably get away with small ball against that team for long stretches.
 
I would honestly give some more PT to Evans, wasn't he like the league MVP in some European league? I think that justifies that he could put in some quality effort as a fill-in.
 
We beat Houston. It was a fluke when we lost that game. Texas triangle is a hard one. We should have also beat Dallas but our team just began to gell after that triangle. Dont tell me the Kings have a problem putting a team away with the record they have and the consistency of their playoff caliber seasons one after another.
Dont say any win is for sure but also dont talk as if we are horrible. Look at the teams we lost to. 4 of the 5 if not all 5 will most likely make the playoffs. Only game I remember blowing this year was the loss to Minny in Minn.
 
I agree with VF21... You sound like a fair weather fan. "Dont screw this up" "They have trouble putting games away" as if they have to win this game or they dont make the playoffs. Its December and its Mill.

So if they lose then what?

Always have faith in your team and try thinking positive. "We are going to win this game tonight, I know they can" instead of talking so negative.
 
Bibby_Is_Clutch said:
I agree with VF21... You sound like a fair weather fan. "Dont screw this up" "They have trouble putting games away" as if they have to win this game or they dont make the playoffs. Its December and its Mill.

So if they lose then what?

Always have faith in your team and try thinking positive. "We are going to win this game tonight, I know they can" instead of talking so negative.
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It's called being realistic, objective and not taking anything for granted. Whether you want to acknowledge it or apparently not, this game tonight is important.

Another completely misused and overused cliche is fair weather fan. I am a avid and longtime fan who is not living in dreamland when it comes to the Kings. This team is on such a pedistal with some people that it makes the knowledgeable and critical fan like myself sick.

If they lose, will you step up and say something that might mean something? Will you say something with some substance other than, "we'll get 'em next time" or "give the Bucks some credit" or "it's only one game"

They will probably win tonight. They will probably get outrebounded and will probably give up a lead, rather than extend a lead by putting a dagger in the back of Milwaukee. They will probably find a way to regroup and win. Bobby will probably hit a big jumper or maybe Webb will hit a pair of throws. Everyone will be happy here in Pleasantville.
 
i agree....thisis the type of game where the kings mite not show up in the 1st quarter, but will play well the next 3 quarters, or b losing so badly in the first and wont be able to get bak up
 
Peja not playing is not an excuse I wish to hear now or after the fact if we lose. Other Kings will need to step up. I expect that to happen and I am POSITIVE it will!
 
2muchgame said:
It's called being realistic, objective and not taking anything for granted. Whether you want to acknowledge it or apparently not, this game tonight is important.

Another completely misused and overused cliche is fair weather fan. I am a avid and longtime fan who is not living in dreamland when it comes to the Kings. This team is on such a pedistal with some people that it makes the knowledgeable and critical fan like myself sick.

If they lose, will you step up and say something that might mean something? Will you say something with some substance other than, "we'll get 'em next time" or "give the Bucks some credit" or "it's only one game"

They will probably win tonight. They will probably get outrebounded and will probably give up a lead, rather than extend a lead by putting a dagger in the back of Milwaukee. They will probably find a way to regroup and win. Bobby will probably hit a big jumper or maybe Webb will hit a pair of throws. Everyone will be happy here in Pleasantville.
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I don't think THIS Kings team is as likely to overlook and team or drop easier games. One of the things that I have been very impressed with over the past 3 games or so is their ablity to dominate weaker teams, and take them out in the third. The Bucks are not Charlot but they are not as good as Boston or the depleeted Indy team we beat. Pedja resting will make it close but I see this as Barnes opertunity to show his stuff. Hopefully Pedja will be ready to play against LA.
 
HndsmCelt said:
I don't think THIS Kings team is as likely to overlook and team or drop easier games. One of the things that I have been very impressed with over the past 3 games or so is their ablity to dominate weaker teams, and take them out in the third. The Bucks are not Charlot but they are not as good as Boston or the depleeted Indy team we beat. Pedja resting will make it close but I see this as Barnes opertunity to show his stuff. Hopefully Pedja will be ready to play against LA.
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What exacly is "stuff" that Barnes is supposed to show tonight ?

Other than hustle.
 
piksi said:
What exacly is "stuff" that Barnes is supposed to show tonight ?

Other than hustle.
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Barnes actually has one of the more complete games on the Kings right now, which is why I think he fits pretty well for us. Has across the board skills. Good athlete, good rebounder, good passer, good ball handling skills (his eternal sloppiness aside) for a SF, and his shot's actually looked respectable in his last few outings as well. There's really no particular weak point to his game besides the one that starts from the neck up.

Just doesn't seem to have it all figured out yet -- kind of reminds me of Hedo sometimes in that you can actually see the wheels turning and he seems constantly uncomfortable with his game in the "should I pass, dirbble, maybe shoot?" mode at all times.
 
2muchgame said:
Second, they know how to consistently beat bad teams (they often have lapses when it comes to putting them away), but they haven't learned how maintain leads against top notch teams and hold them off consistently. The Lakers and Minnesota would tell you that!
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Okay, so the Kings know how to consistently beat bad teams but haven't learned to maintain leads against top notch teams?

I don't think the Bucks are a top notch team.

What am I missing?
 
2muchgame said:
First of all, I don't understand your point.

Second, they know how to consistently beat bad teams (they often have lapses when it comes to putting them away), but they haven't learned how maintain leads against top notch teams and hold them off consistently. The Lakers and Minnesota would tell you that!

Why should I give the Kings a pass on any game. This game is huge as were many winable games last season that cost this team home-court advantage against Minnesota. Hindsight is 20/20, but I see the Kings winning Game 7 last season if it had been at Arco.

What in the end cost them that series was the Game 2 loss that they blew.......Why VF21.........watch your VHS copy that you likely dubbed from that game last season and you will see a mental collapse like no other! You will see a game that epitomizes the problems that have plagued this team for years. Games like Milwaukee on the road are must wins and unfortunately are not guaranteed!
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First, my point is that you seem very quick to start out with the negative comment and seem never to be around for the positive. Just an observation...

Second, you aren't seriously calling the Milwaukee Bucks a top notch team, are you?

Third, you can put all the pseudo-importance on this game that you like. Bottom line is it is a road game against an Eastern team in December. It is NOT critical. It is as important as any other game, in that it will count either a W or an L, but it's not going to indicate anything at this point, ESPECIALLY with Pedja sitting out.

Fourth, I cannot even begin to pretend to follow your logic of comparing this game to the playoffs against the TWolves.
 
piksi said:
So he can do lot of things but nothing really well.
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Actually I would say he does a lot of things well, but nothing GREAT. Nothing to really hang his hat on.

Which is all fine, except that he's not consistent in doing things well either.

Bottomline it would not surprise me at all if he came out as a starter and gave us 14pts 7rebs 3ast. It also wouold not surprise me if he gave us 5pts 4rebs 1ast and watched much of the game from the bench. If he could just bottle the good Matt we would actually have a little something there.
 
VF21 said:
First, my point is that you seem very quick to start out with the negative comment and seem never to be around for the positive. Just an observation...

Second, you aren't seriously calling the Milwaukee Bucks a top notch team, are you?

Third, you can put all the pseudo-importance on this game that you like. Bottom line is it is a road game against an Eastern team in December. It is NOT critical. It is as important as any other game, in that it will count either a W or an L, but it's not going to indicate anything at this point, ESPECIALLY with Pedja sitting out.

Fourth, I cannot even begin to pretend to follow your logic of comparing this game to the playoffs against the TWolves.
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Thank you VF21. I mean what is your point 2muchgame. The Kings havent played will in the first quarter all year. They have always been the ones coming back in the end. So why do you care about blowing a lead? A win is a win and as long as its not a loss who cares. There is a difference between we better win and we need to win. I dont think you have yet figured out the difference.
Can you tell me the point of the thread?
To say the kings give up leads
To say we have to win this "important" game
To compare the Bucks to one of the best in the west (Minny)
To say we should be able to win fine without Peja (Are you kidding?)

Peja has been very very helpful lately so I would like to see us win a game easily without him.
 
VF21 said:
First, my point is that you seem very quick to start out with the negative comment and seem never to be around for the positive. Just an observation...

Second, you aren't seriously calling the Milwaukee Bucks a top notch team, are you?

Third, you can put all the pseudo-importance on this game that you like. Bottom line is it is a road game against an Eastern team in December. It is NOT critical. It is as important as any other game, in that it will count either a W or an L, but it's not going to indicate anything at this point, ESPECIALLY with Pedja sitting out.

Fourth, I cannot even begin to pretend to follow your logic of comparing this game to the playoffs against the TWolves.
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I never called the Bucks a top notch team, read the original post where I state the facts.

Games like this are important in the scheme of playoff positioning. Until last year, I was with you entirely as far as these just being games that weren't critical. Last season the Kings screwed themselves just enough in games like this to have home-court related implications and NO the Kings aren't good enough to go on the road and win a Semifinal or WConf Final G7 in SA, Min, Dallas, perhaps even Phoenix. Take care of business in these games.

Your last point is a stretch. A person who sees the big picture would understand so I'm done on this one.

On the positive.....a win is a win and I hate to say it but I'm done being positive. If that had been a "meaningful" game as this obviously wasn't aaccording to many fans on here, Webb would have been just a inch short on that J. Let's say if this had been Game 7 against the Wolves:) Oh wait...never mind. In May we'll see if Webb hits that shot! I hope he does, but don't count on it.
 
2muchgame said:
On the positive.....a win is a win and I hate to say it but I'm done being positive. If that had been a "meaningful" game as this obviously wasn't aaccording to many fans on here, Webb would have been just a inch short on that J. Let's say if this had been Game 7 against the Wolves:) Oh wait...never mind. In May we'll see if Webb hits that shot! I hope he does, but don't count on it.
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There are times when an emoticon says it all: :rolleyes:
 
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