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Webber4tHREE
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Anyone think the Kings can bounce back from this loss?
HndsmCelt
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No question the Kings can and will bounce back from this loss. In general a single loss has little meaning to me even an occasional blow out. What is distrubring is being blown out at Arco twice in one month. No doom or gloom here, but the team needs to take this seriously and evaluate the teams ablity to adapt when they are having a tough time getting shots to go. Sure there were a myrid of other problems, highly unusual bad passing, not so unusual rebounding problems and general poor interior defense, but ya gotta start somewhere.
I was just stunned last night. I was geared up to watch the Kings do battle with the Spurs and what I saw just sickend me. It actualy looked like the team gave up in the 3rd quarter... I hope I am wrong about that.
I was just stunned last night. I was geared up to watch the Kings do battle with the Spurs and what I saw just sickend me. It actualy looked like the team gave up in the 3rd quarter... I hope I am wrong about that.
Kingsgurl
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Everything and anything that COULD go wrong, did. My eyes still hurt. However, I have to agree, it's not like we played well and lost, or played well and got blown out. The way we played last night, we didn't even look like we belonged in the league. Kevin's old High school team could have beaten us
The Spurs played well, props to them. I'm still hoping to see the Kings take them on in the play offs, preferrably the WCF.
The Spurs played well, props to them. I'm still hoping to see the Kings take them on in the play offs, preferrably the WCF.
TheSerbianQueen
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Webber4tHREE said:
There is no doubt in my mins that they can. This was just one very ugly game. I mean, how often do they score only 36 points in first half..... Once I saw the score at half time I knew things were not going well
RoyalDiva
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Heuge said:Without a question the saddest day in franchise history
As a note on Ricky Berry, he was going to be a very solid basketball player.
Truly. I was in high school at the time and Ricky Berry often came to our school and was very involved in helping our youth. I remember when I found out he had killed himself and how Jerry Reynolds couldn't even get through the press conference. It was so sad.
PFFFT!!
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Superior is one thing, but to get pasted at Arco like we did without their starting center is another. Im kinda down on this. I personally blame the coaching, which is good enough to beat most teams, except the really good ones. Oh well, I figure we have an eternity to go with Adelman :\
Alacron
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Webber4tHREE said:
Two years ago we went into San Antonio early in the season and just hammered 'em. That's the game where Christie had the play of the year, the steal, behind the back pass, and assist to Keon for the jam. We won by like 20 or 30, and had 3 turnovers the entire game.
That's the year the Spurs won the championship.
So yes, we can bounce back. If we beat them on Thursday, will anyone even care about last night?
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PFFFT!! said:
You blame the coaching? We had a total of EIGHT assists. That's not the coaches fault. We also had 11% 3-point shooting. That, too, is not the coaches fault. It was a TEAM loss.
For whatever reason, the Kings just did not come out focused. They were on a 6-game win streak and came out against the toughest team in the league as though they were playing a pick-up game at a family reunion.
The best coach in the world can't plan for that. If you're going to talk about them playing without their starting center (which wasn't a factor since TMass performed well over his talent level) then you also have to talk about Webber only playing 12 minutes.
It was a horrible, ugly game. It was no more representative of this team and its coach than the pre-season blowout by the Suns.
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buddahead_916
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Ok, I've waited a while to put in my two cents. I think this game might prove just how vital Chris Webber really is to this team. Yes, the spurs are great. Yes they played exceptionally well. And yes, even if C-webb was in there we MAY have still lost.
BUT, It wouldn't have been by 30 points. What I've noticed this season is that the whole team literally feeds off Web's strong play. He's not dunking on anyone and everyone anymore, but his stroke is a thing of beauty from 15-18 feet. He IS an exceptional passer and from the few games I've seen mobley play he truly benefits from those exceptional passes. Bottom line, when webb is playing strong as he has been he takes a lot of attention away from other players and then we do our traditional Kings " stomp them into submission dance!!
I hesitate to even say this but I will. While I hope that ankle injury isn't serious, Webb needs to get some intestinal fortitude. The spurs, at our house, thirty point loss??? C'mon big man we needed you more than ever last night, and that turn of the ankle didn't "look" THAT serious (knocks on wood). All I can think about is evans having 15 stitches and a concussion and still playing the next game, that's the fire that's just IN some people ( if anyone has had a concussion of that magnitude you know what I'm talking about, you'll feel "funny" for a couple days and I was extremely suprised to see him back so quick). I HAVE to believe that he really was hurt or he woulda played, but webb is known to be suspect at times when it comes to these kinds of minor injuries. Nobody cares if he sits to rest his knee against the leagues low lifes as he's done a couple times already, but this is the Spurs man, get your arse back in there next time.
BTW- I live in Texas (not by choice), but am a native of Sacramento, and am an extreme loudmouth letting everyone in the state know about it when the Kings come up big. These same people feel the same way about the Mavs, Spurs, and Rockets so you can imagine what kind of day I've had.
BUT, It wouldn't have been by 30 points. What I've noticed this season is that the whole team literally feeds off Web's strong play. He's not dunking on anyone and everyone anymore, but his stroke is a thing of beauty from 15-18 feet. He IS an exceptional passer and from the few games I've seen mobley play he truly benefits from those exceptional passes. Bottom line, when webb is playing strong as he has been he takes a lot of attention away from other players and then we do our traditional Kings " stomp them into submission dance!!
I hesitate to even say this but I will. While I hope that ankle injury isn't serious, Webb needs to get some intestinal fortitude. The spurs, at our house, thirty point loss??? C'mon big man we needed you more than ever last night, and that turn of the ankle didn't "look" THAT serious (knocks on wood). All I can think about is evans having 15 stitches and a concussion and still playing the next game, that's the fire that's just IN some people ( if anyone has had a concussion of that magnitude you know what I'm talking about, you'll feel "funny" for a couple days and I was extremely suprised to see him back so quick). I HAVE to believe that he really was hurt or he woulda played, but webb is known to be suspect at times when it comes to these kinds of minor injuries. Nobody cares if he sits to rest his knee against the leagues low lifes as he's done a couple times already, but this is the Spurs man, get your arse back in there next time.
BTW- I live in Texas (not by choice), but am a native of Sacramento, and am an extreme loudmouth letting everyone in the state know about it when the Kings come up big. These same people feel the same way about the Mavs, Spurs, and Rockets so you can imagine what kind of day I've had.
uolj
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I disagree with this. It was a regular season game where the whole team was clearly struggling. To have any chance of helping the team win Webber would have had to really force the action. I don't think that would be worth the risk of making the ankle worse for what would be a small chance at a single regular season win.buddahead_916 said:
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buddahead_916
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uolj said:
So I guess we should all just sit back and be optimistic, right? I refuse, the fact that you saw it as just a "single regular season win" makes me laugh. It was a LOT more than that, they whooped us worse at home than any team has in the last TEN YEARS. And this is the team that WILL stand in our way of a championship. The sonics and suns were just adrenalized for the first part of the season but they've come back to earth. The same can't be said about the Spurs, they are very good and unless TD gets injured they will be our road block for a ticket to the Finals. They just made a VERY big statement on our home court and I do think C-webb shoulda played through it.
buddahead - Do you HONESTLY think Webber's presence would have saved the game? Honestly? The whole team STUNK!!!
What if - just for discussion purposes - Webber had insisted on going out there and done significant damage to the ankle, requiring him to sit out for the next two weeks? Would you still say he should have gone back in? Of course not. You - and every Kings fan on the planet - would have been screaming about putting him back in on a sore ankle in a game in January just to try and pull off something that most likely wasn't going to happen.
Of course, I don't believe in statement games in January or February. The Spurs played very well. We played horribly. They beat us by 30 with Duncan and Manu in the game right up until the last couple of minutes on a night when we had 11% shooting from outside the arc AND a total of 8 assists.
Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not going to get all panicked about this game. I think part of your problem - and I mean no disrespect whatsoever - is that you're in Texas and you're having to take a lot of punishment from Spurs fans. You have my sympathy in that respect.
What if - just for discussion purposes - Webber had insisted on going out there and done significant damage to the ankle, requiring him to sit out for the next two weeks? Would you still say he should have gone back in? Of course not. You - and every Kings fan on the planet - would have been screaming about putting him back in on a sore ankle in a game in January just to try and pull off something that most likely wasn't going to happen.
Of course, I don't believe in statement games in January or February. The Spurs played very well. We played horribly. They beat us by 30 with Duncan and Manu in the game right up until the last couple of minutes on a night when we had 11% shooting from outside the arc AND a total of 8 assists.
Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not going to get all panicked about this game. I think part of your problem - and I mean no disrespect whatsoever - is that you're in Texas and you're having to take a lot of punishment from Spurs fans. You have my sympathy in that respect.
uolj
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Well, I'm not specifically optimistic about this loss (I'm more of a positive realistbuddahead_916 said:So I guess we should all just sit back and be optimistic, right? I refuse, the fact that you saw it as just a "single regular season win" makes me laugh. It was a LOT more than that, they whooped us worse at home than any team has in the last TEN YEARS. And this is the team that WILL stand in our way of a championship. The sonics and suns were just adrenalized for the first part of the season but they've come back to earth. The same can't be said about the Spurs, they are very good and unless TD gets injured they will be our road block for a ticket to the Finals. They just made a VERY big statement on our home court and I do think C-webb shoulda played through it.
). I agree that it was more important than most regular season games, but it was still just a regular season game. Considering the Kings win a couple weeks ago, and the fact that they get a shot at redemption almost immediately, I don't think this particular loss will have that great of an impact by itself.If Webber tries to gut it out on his ankle, he risks making things worse. It was a much better idea to get him healthy for Thursday's rematch where they have a much better chance at winning than they did at halftime of this past game.
Parni Valjak
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.. noooooooooooooooooooooooKings will win thursday !
PFFFT!!
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VF21 said:
VF, I blame the coaching because of the plays. Pop played his hand and Adelman never returned the favor. Most of Adelmans plays take the wind out of our players more than saving energy. They rotate like crazy off picks that don't work, all for nothing because they cant get open. It just seems like they become slugs out there, slow and taking positions where getting rebounds are out of the question. I don't know, but we should at least stay competitive with the Spurs. Granted they are the best team, but come on.
Another thing, forget BJ coming back in this game, wouldn't have made a difference. BJ or no BJ. The only thing positive out of this game is that perhaps they got their world rocked good and they can feel destructible now, so perhaps their effort next game will not stop, much like the Spurs when they didn't stop pummeling us during garbage time.
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BigWaxer
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Oh I didn't get to this thread yet 
There is no way anyone can pin this loss on RA. The team didn't play well and last night the Spurs played great.
I so agree with that statement. I hate when people say this and that is a statment game. This game will be forgotten after the next nice win or blowout loss.
There is no way anyone can pin this loss on RA. The team didn't play well and last night the Spurs played great.
I so agree with that statement. I hate when people say this and that is a statment game. This game will be forgotten after the next nice win or blowout loss.
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KP
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Yeah... your right, Adelmans silly screen offense doesn't get people open... I mean what have they been like 1st thru 3rd in offense the last 4 years?? That is completely unnacceptable!! When will They replace Adelman with a real offensive genius like Jeff Van Gundy!! I'm tired of seeing "slugs" on offense I wanna see some high powered offense!! Those picks just don't work!PFFFT!! said:
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PFFFT!! said:
Bobby Jackson? Did I mention Bobby Jackson? One of us is confused...
I know you hate Rick Adelman and wish nothing more than to see him gone but you can't blame a game like this solely on the coach. It was abysmal. The Kings came out ice cold and without focus. That was clear from the beginning, before Adelman had them running all over the place.
It wasn't that the team ran out of steam. They lost because they didn't come into the game ready to play, for whatever reason. I know you think it's because of RA. I don't know for sure, but I cannot blame the coach if he's spent two days drumming something into the team and they choose not to do what they've been talking about doing for two days.
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