Is Sabonis's best position PF or C?

What Position should Sabonis primarily play?


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HndsmCelt

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#31
I try not to get too caught up on labeling but it seems that Sabonis is most productive in the high post as a facilitator. Of course with an average at best 3 shot it's means he is likely to draw opponents into the paint more than he is to stretch the floor after the pass. So it seems that the best complement for him is a big who can play low post AND stretch the floor with above average 3 point shooting. So on paper HB is the guy, but he does not always play his best against larger guys. For better or worse Metu COULD be that guy but has yet to shoot consistently from 3 and overall does not play like an NBA starter.
 
#32
I try not to get too caught up on labeling but it seems that Sabonis is most productive in the high post as a facilitator. Of course with an average at best 3 shot it's means he is likely to draw opponents into the paint more than he is to stretch the floor after the pass. So it seems that the best complement for him is a big who can play low post AND stretch the floor with above average 3 point shooting. So on paper HB is the guy, but he does not always play his best against larger guys. For better or worse Metu COULD be that guy but has yet to shoot consistently from 3 and overall does not play like an NBA starter.
Sounds like you’re describing Boogie
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#33
Sounds like you’re describing Boogie
Shure I suppose, but You can also insert the names Brad Miller and Arvydas Sabonis. Of guys still playing Ingram, Randal, Porter and of course Tatum all come to mind. Again there are guys that fit BETTER than HB but not a lot of them.
 
#36
I try not to get too caught up on labeling but it seems that Sabonis is most productive in the high post as a facilitator. Of course with an average at best 3 shot it's means he is likely to draw opponents into the paint more than he is to stretch the floor after the pass. So it seems that the best complement for him is a big who can play low post AND stretch the floor with above average 3 point shooting. So on paper HB is the guy, but he does not always play his best against larger guys. For better or worse Metu COULD be that guy but has yet to shoot consistently from 3 and overall does not play like an NBA starter.
HB isn't a big.
 
#40
That certainly my perspective, but I know in the modern NBA people see things differently. I try to account for being a fossil who thinks that big start at about 6'9"
HB is a 6'7 small forward. (I know they list him at 6'8). I can't imagine anyone classifying him as "a big" in the NBA, but you never know
 
#41
The long, rim protecting C you're looking for is at the end of the bench....

Quite possibly, but hard for us to know when he hasn't seen much action. You'd hope the coaches have a pulse on this in practice.

He's got great size & length:
  • 248 lbs
  • 6'11.25" w/o shoes
  • 7'4 wingpsan
  • 9'4.5" standing reach

Even his vertical, lane agility, and 3/4 sprint isn't too bad for a guy that size (fun fact: his standing vertical + standing reach is 11'7.5" and his max vertical + standing reach is 12'1.5". That's some verticality).

Shotblocking has always been his calling card. Per 36 min, he averaged...
  • 4.0 blocks per 36 min during his last year in college (871 total minutes)
  • 3.0 blocks per 36 min last year in the g-league (292 total minutes)
  • 2.4 blocks per 36 min last year in the NBA regular season (120 total minutes)
  • 4.1 blocks per 36 min this year in the NBA pre season (26 total minutes)
 
#42
At this point, why not think about signing one of Gary Trent/Cam Johnson and PJ Washington/Grant Williams and roll out a starting 5 of…

PG - Fox
SG - Trent/Johnson
SF - Murray
PF - Williams/Washington
C - Sabonis

If we clear Monk and Holmes for expirings, I think we’d have around $40 mil in cap space and could go into next season with…

PG - Fox / Mitchell / Ellis
SG - Johnson / Huerter
SF - Murray / Moneke
PF - Washington / Okpala
C - Sabonis / Queta
Picks - 2023 SAC 1st / 2023 IND 2nd / 2023 SAC 2nd

Gives us a better defense in the starting unit with Trent/Johnson-Murray-Williams/Washington at SG, SF, and PF while allowing Mitchell, Huerter, 2023 SAC 1st, and a MLE to run the bench mob. Huerter would most certainly give us some consistent production off the bench.

The only question is if $40 mil in cap space is enough to snag two of those guys. I’m leaning towards it not being enough.
Thinking about this more, it's highly unlikely we'd be able to sign two of these players even when moving Monk & Holmes for cap space. I think what makes the most sense is for us to trade...

Richaun Holmes

for

Mason Plumlee
2023 UTA 2nd

This takes our projected 2023 cap space from ~$19 mil to ~$30 mil. Allowing us to go after a Jerami Grant, PJ Washington, Grant Williams, Cam Johnson, etc. while picking up a potential early 2nd round pick (if the Jazz decide to actually start tanking anytime soon). We'd head into next season with the following players/picks under contract...

PG - Fox / Mitchell / Ellis
SG - Huerter / Monk
SF - Murray / Moneke
PF - Okpala
C - Sabonis / Queta
Picks - 2023 SAC 1st / 2023 IND 2nd / 2023 SAC 2nd / 2023 UTA 2nd

...and if we're fortunate, we can add one of Grant, Washington, Williams, Johnson, etc. to the core.
 
#43
The offense moves through him and Fox. They make the inside/outside game work.
Sabonis is strong and has great foot work. I love the way he uses his body underneath.
He is very skilled and we need to keep him on the floor as much as he can take.
It is okay to try some different combos depending on the opposition.
The Kings are deeper than they have been in 10 years.