Is Kenny Thomas untradable?
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Hmmm. Is he untradable?
Well, not completely. After all, we traded for him.
Are there teams lining up for his services, like the line outside most theaters yesterday for the opening of Pirates of the Caribbean?
I don't think so.
He could help some teams but his attitude and his immortal contract will make finding someone else to take him problematic at best IMHO.
Well, not completely. After all, we traded for him.
Are there teams lining up for his services, like the line outside most theaters yesterday for the opening of Pirates of the Caribbean?
I don't think so.
He could help some teams but his attitude and his immortal contract will make finding someone else to take him problematic at best IMHO.
Help who VF21?
I can't think of a team but the Hawks to start him and they can't trade anymore; as for playing as a reserve, I doubt there is a single team that will pay him as much for him to come from the bench + giving away one of their players in the trade.... Such a team will also not trade any of its BIGS to get Thomas, so I can't see what the Kings would get in return.
I can't think of a team but the Hawks to start him and they can't trade anymore; as for playing as a reserve, I doubt there is a single team that will pay him as much for him to come from the bench + giving away one of their players in the trade.... Such a team will also not trade any of its BIGS to get Thomas, so I can't see what the Kings would get in return.
Wizards could use him - reading in the news from Grunfield/fans/Wizards media, they want to go more uptempo/small ball, and would need a mobile PF. They don't have one. He'd bring rebounding and toughness as well. They want to get rid of the slower, more half-court-type guys.
Butler and/or Jefferies (if back) are willing and can come off the bench, or could start at SG. Both have before a number of times, for both situations. While Jamison, who is much more of an SF, slides to SF...
We'd get Etan Thomas back, give us a solid big who brings what we need in the front-court.
Wiz line-up:
Arenas
Butler or Jefferies
Jamison
Thomas
Haywood
I'm sticking by that proposal.
Butler and/or Jefferies (if back) are willing and can come off the bench, or could start at SG. Both have before a number of times, for both situations. While Jamison, who is much more of an SF, slides to SF...
We'd get Etan Thomas back, give us a solid big who brings what we need in the front-court.
Wiz line-up:
Arenas
Butler or Jefferies
Jamison
Thomas
Haywood
I'm sticking by that proposal.
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Okay, you win, KF93. I was trying to be nice.
If he wouldn't pout and whine coming off the bench, he could really be useful. But his deplorable attitude, his seeming ability to forget how to handle the ball at the worst possible moments AND his albatross contract are going to make it almost impossible to move him.
I was going to say maybe we could package him, but I think his presence in most trades would actually be a deal-breaker.
If he wouldn't pout and whine coming off the bench, he could really be useful. But his deplorable attitude, his seeming ability to forget how to handle the ball at the worst possible moments AND his albatross contract are going to make it almost impossible to move him.
I was going to say maybe we could package him, but I think his presence in most trades would actually be a deal-breaker.
Oops. Brain fart. Corrected now...
They COULD do it but I doubt if they WILL do it. It's been widely rumored that Kenny Thomas has been on the "available" block for quite a while. It just doesn't seem like there are many people lining up to make a bid.
You know, now that I think about it, maybe THAT'S why Gavin was smiling on the News10 film clip and hinting at another change...
They COULD do it but I doubt if they WILL do it. It's been widely rumored that Kenny Thomas has been on the "available" block for quite a while. It just doesn't seem like there are many people lining up to make a bid.
You know, now that I think about it, maybe THAT'S why Gavin was smiling on the News10 film clip and hinting at another change...
Well almost any player can be gotten rid of in a trade the question always is what will you get in return? Kenny is a Liverwurst sandwitch on rye bread. You will NEVER get a puding cup for him. Sure some kid might give you his cellery stx and if you work hard on the deal you might even get some kid who is tierd of baloney on white bread with mayo to swap but in the end you will still have to eat a baloney sandwitch.
If fish could fly...
If men had gills...
Sorry but I don't think Kenny Thomas can lose the "Napoleon complex" attitude he seems to have. He needs to be about 4 inches taller and I'm sure in his mind he IS 4 inches taller. He's not tough enough to be a starting PF in the Western Conference and I don't think there's any way that can change. He might be a very good 6th man but we all know how he feels about coming off the bench.
He's quick and he can rebound, but he can also develop a set of fumble fingers that defies description. During the playoffs it was almost like every good play had to be countered by some ill-advised and very poor turnover.
If I was to rate the possibility of us ever being happy we're stuck with him between 1 and 100, with 1 being the lowest and 100 being the highest, I'd give it about a 9.
If men had gills...
Sorry but I don't think Kenny Thomas can lose the "Napoleon complex" attitude he seems to have. He needs to be about 4 inches taller and I'm sure in his mind he IS 4 inches taller. He's not tough enough to be a starting PF in the Western Conference and I don't think there's any way that can change. He might be a very good 6th man but we all know how he feels about coming off the bench.
He's quick and he can rebound, but he can also develop a set of fumble fingers that defies description. During the playoffs it was almost like every good play had to be countered by some ill-advised and very poor turnover.
If I was to rate the possibility of us ever being happy we're stuck with him between 1 and 100, with 1 being the lowest and 100 being the highest, I'd give it about a 9.
If fish could fly...
If men had gills...
Sorry but I don't think Kenny Thomas can lose the "Napoleon complex" attitude he seems to have. He needs to be about 4 inches taller and I'm sure in his mind he IS 4 inches taller. He's not tough enough to be a starting PF in the Western Conference and I don't think there's any way that can change. He might be a very good 6th man but we all know how he feels about coming off the bench.
He's quick and he can rebound, but he can also develop a set of fumble fingers that defies description. During the playoffs it was almost like every good play had to be countered by some ill-advised and very poor turnover.
If I was to rate the possibility of us ever being happy we're stuck with him between 1 and 100, with 1 being the lowest and 100 being the highest, I'd give it about a 9.
If men had gills...
Sorry but I don't think Kenny Thomas can lose the "Napoleon complex" attitude he seems to have. He needs to be about 4 inches taller and I'm sure in his mind he IS 4 inches taller. He's not tough enough to be a starting PF in the Western Conference and I don't think there's any way that can change. He might be a very good 6th man but we all know how he feels about coming off the bench.
He's quick and he can rebound, but he can also develop a set of fumble fingers that defies description. During the playoffs it was almost like every good play had to be countered by some ill-advised and very poor turnover.
If I was to rate the possibility of us ever being happy we're stuck with him between 1 and 100, with 1 being the lowest and 100 being the highest, I'd give it about a 9.
KT is a double double machine. There is a reason why he got that generous contract. The guy can rebound! He averaged 13pts and 10 rebounds a game in 03/04 which led to the BIG contract. The guy had 20 double doubles in 28.2 min per game this year.
Stats wise its hard to argue with his contract and with a shot blocking, post defending center maybe his size wouldn't be a problem. However, on our team we need more size.
So, in the right situation his contract would be a little easier to take.
Stats wise its hard to argue with his contract and with a shot blocking, post defending center maybe his size wouldn't be a problem. However, on our team we need more size.
So, in the right situation his contract would be a little easier to take.
That's the upside.
The downside is the critical turnovers, the errant free-throw shooting that at times totally defies description, and ... again ... the lack of a "team" philosophy.
It's always about Kenny. On a team like the Kings, where the focus is on doing what's best for the TEAM, he sticks out as someone who just doesn't want to give up minutes or the coveted starting position.
I'm not saying he's a pariah, by any means. I'm simply saying that of all the current players on our roster, his cost to value received ratio is really off kilter IMHO.
The downside is the critical turnovers, the errant free-throw shooting that at times totally defies description, and ... again ... the lack of a "team" philosophy.
It's always about Kenny. On a team like the Kings, where the focus is on doing what's best for the TEAM, he sticks out as someone who just doesn't want to give up minutes or the coveted starting position.
I'm not saying he's a pariah, by any means. I'm simply saying that of all the current players on our roster, his cost to value received ratio is really off kilter IMHO.
Bibby's a bit overpaid... but he's still a top ten PG.
Brad is definitely overpaid, and has become a lesser player than he was. I hope he can become better or like he was, but how effective would he be now like that? More importantly, how much will he be like that, and will he be like 03-04 Brad?
Who knows.
Brad is definitely overpaid, and has become a lesser player than he was. I hope he can become better or like he was, but how effective would he be now like that? More importantly, how much will he be like that, and will he be like 03-04 Brad?
Who knows.
When you talk about Brad though there are a ton of teams that have a BS/Rebounding PF that would love Brad.
He stretched the opposing teams defense when he sits outside, and when he can knock down the 17ft jumper consistantly and the opposing center is not clogging the middle some teams out there could go wild.
Brad is an easy guy to move.
As for KT. Not a lot of teams have donimating centers, which is a better fit for KT at PF.
He stretched the opposing teams defense when he sits outside, and when he can knock down the 17ft jumper consistantly and the opposing center is not clogging the middle some teams out there could go wild.
Brad is an easy guy to move.
As for KT. Not a lot of teams have donimating centers, which is a better fit for KT at PF.
Hmmm. Is he untradable?
Well, not completely. After all, we traded for him.
Are there teams lining up for his services, like the line outside most theaters yesterday for the opening of Pirates of the Caribbean?
I don't think so.
He could help some teams but his attitude and his immortal contract will make finding someone else to take him problematic at best IMHO.
Well, not completely. After all, we traded for him.
Are there teams lining up for his services, like the line outside most theaters yesterday for the opening of Pirates of the Caribbean?
I don't think so.
He could help some teams but his attitude and his immortal contract will make finding someone else to take him problematic at best IMHO.
I haven't taken the time to see if anyone else pointed this out in the thread, but that statement is not entirely true VF.
That trade was to get rid of Webber and his salary, not trade for KT, he just happened to be part of the deal.
I think that's what Petrie is going to have to do to get rid of him...make KT HAPPEN TO BE in the trade..
Obviously he has very little value when you factor in the contract and eternally grumpy starting demands. Think he might have value to a team like Houston though, who he has played for before, and where he could provide them some needed boardwork and play between two shotblockers in Yao and Battier. And with only an aging mediocre shoplifter occupying that spot, its a possibility.
Still amuses me that somehow we might have found an even worse and less moveable contract when we dumped Webb.
Still amuses me that somehow we might have found an even worse and less moveable contract when we dumped Webb.