Is it panic time yet?

QueensFan

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For the first few weeks of the season I promised myself that I would judge the Kings based on effort rather than results because I knew that it would take time for this team to come together. Unfortunately, effort was lacking.

Then they won a few games, got back to .500, and I thought, ok, now the team has started to mesh, it's time to start winning.

Of course that isn't what happened.

So my question is, can we expect this team, as it stands right now, to get better, or are we really this bad. In other words, has the time come to pull the trigger on some moves or dare we try to wait on improvement?

My opinion is that it's time for action. I don't think we can afford to wait any longer. What do you think?
 
Q - Is it time to panic?

A - Only if you suffered the delusion that this team was going to be good in the first place. Some of us, on the other hand, knew better.

For my part, I've expected this team to be sorry since February 23rd. And, much to my dismay, I have yet to be "disappointed."
 
Don't panic just sit back and wait for the changes, the only question is how high up they will go?
 
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Many people thought we would gel around the 20-game point...that ain't gonna happen. There will be changes made, and probably earlier than previously thought.

That's my take, anyway...
 
Huh?

Have you guys really given up on the season? There are MANY changes that can be made, and if you think this season is a write off then I'm just glad that you aren't our GM!
 
Yah, going into the season I set my hopes at .500. Well I was wrong. Looks like its going to be a 30 win season at best. If we cant even win at home than there is something MAJORLY wrong with this team.

I was hoping though if I set my standards low than I would be pleasantly suprised (and deep down I really thought they would do well). So yah, I am pretty pissed. To the point that I don't want to watch them until they put something on the floor that will at least TRY!
 
yes it is time to panic, i say we give up everyone of our starters for draft picks
 
QueensFan said:
Huh?

Have you guys really given up on the season? There are MANY changes that can be made, and if you think this season is a write off then I'm just glad that you aren't our GM!

Our GM will not give this team much more time precisely because he is not writing off the season. A write-off would be to leave the team as is and somehow expect them to become more athletic.
 
QueensFan said:
Huh?

Have you guys really given up on the season? There are MANY changes that can be made, and if you think this season is a write off then I'm just glad that you aren't our GM!

Given up on the season?

A: Yes, if they keep the team as is, and play out the season with no coaching change, or player movements.

B: No, if they make a change FAST. We cant go until the team is 20-40, make a change, and expect us to bow down and thank them for doing it after the season is lost anyway.
 
D-Mass said:
Our GM will not give this team much more time precisely because he is not writing off the season. A write-off would be to leave the team as is and somehow expect them to become more athletic.
Yeah, that's exactly my point.
 
Full blown panic......NO

Panic enough to start making some changes......YES

It's way too early to give up on this season. There is still alot of basketball to be played.

Go Kings!!!
 
Something is about to happen. Just a feeling, but I see something coming. Anyway. . . look at the time they all played tonight. All, except for Price and Martin played 17-30 minutes. I think that is the most the equally balanced time the bench has played. Last look for some? ? ?

I generally do not speculate about trades, but something HAS to happen. Not time to panic because this team was never meant to be great. It is time to face reality and understand that it is going to be a LONG, ROUGH season. Trades or not.
 
If you call panicking calling for change, then yes.

If you mean giving up, no. This never had to be, and still doesn't HAVE to be. Mistakes were made by the front office. There is still time to fix them.
 
Of course by "panic" I meant make changes. My question was, have we given this group of Kings enough time to know that they are this bad? Clearly we all say "yes."
 
What do you mean by 'give up on the season'? Do you mean giving up trying to win the championship?

People- What is the point of being in the NBA? To win the championship. That is the whole point. It takes time, and maneuvering of players, to get a good team and make a run. Petrie abandoned the last run to cut our losses so we could start mounting another run asap, he made the tough decision, and I applaud that. At this point we are not in a position to make a run for the champoinship. Did you really think that Petrie was going to make moves for only a few months before settling on the right combo of players to try to win it all? We are in the process of getting into position to make a run. Might take a few years.

We don't want to be a perpetual 45-50 game winner like the Jazz. That is settling for mediocrity.

In a way, I'm glad we lost tonight. Seriously! We should lose as many games as we can to learn as much as possible. Think of this season like training camp for next year, or the year after even. The difference between a winner and a loser is that a winner knows how to lose.

There will be more moves. I don't think Petrie has given up on us.

Or do we really think that this team was going to make a run at the championship? Assuming that the whole point is to win it all, what do you think Petries real strategy is or was?
 
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The Hammer said:
Did you really think that Petrie was going to make moves for only a few months before settling on the right combo of players to try to win it all? We are in the process of getting into position to make a run. Might take a few years.

Yep. Took three years (five if you consider the two years Peja spent in Greece) to assemble the team that took our breath away in 2002.

Petrie never did, IMHO, think THIS current assemblage of players would be legitimate contenders. It was overly-zealous fans who thought that. Now, those same fans are in distress.

This never was going to be a championship caliber team. There are just too many gaping holes. But that doesn't mean we lose hope - unless your hope only lasts for one season.

This team is a work in progress...

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I hope.
 
panic button for fans and panic button for gm's are usually different things, but in this case, they're dangerously close to overlapping each other. if "panic button" means give up on the season with this starting unit (or head coach?), then yes, i'd say the kings front office is damn close to hitting the button. if the kings can't manage to bring themselves to .500 by the end of december, then i'd say changes will be made. and its gonna be awfully difficult to get to .500, looking at the schedule. and, hey, if that's what it takes for the incredibly jaded kings front office to start shaking things up for real, then i'm fine with that. i'd hope that they wouldnt dump the coach without at least having an idea for a permanent replacement. but, as for the players, ship any of them. i dont really care anymore. i have no more emotional attachments to any of the players on this team, except for bonzi wells...he's realllllly growing on me. i love his heart and attitude. gimme 5 guys on the floor with his kinda fire. the rest are softies that have little to no pride. corliss williamson is another exception. its just a shame that he's got such a lofty contract, otherwise i'd say keep him for his veteran leadership. this team needs a complete reconstruction...from the ground up. one or two of the starters can remain at the most, but they absolutely must be complemented with the right kinda players. but this is all, of course, only if the kings front office is serious about reconstructing this team the correct way, and that could take a coupla years.
 
I'm not a bandwagoneer, nor do I reside in the Sacramento area anymore, but it's stretches like this that have to take the edge off the possibility of having to drive to the bay area for sporting events in a few years.

The team is in full decline, we are like a lesser and shorter-lived version of the Utah Jazz. I'd be happy to have a young team that's capable of making the playoffs in a few years, much less one that's capable of winning a few series.
 
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VF21 said:
Yep. Took three years (five if you consider the two years Peja spent in Greece) to assemble the team that took our breath away in 2002.

Petrie never did, IMHO, think THIS current assemblage of players would be legitimate contenders. It was overly-zealous fans who thought that. Now, those same fans are in distress.

This never was going to be a championship caliber team. There are just too many gaping holes. But that doesn't mean we lose hope - unless your hope only lasts for one season.

This team is a work in progress...

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I hope.

Thank you. It is good to hear some sanity around here! I too think Petrie never envisioned this team making a run. How could anyone in their right mind? What Petrie does have now is a few decent players that could all be packaged together for a superstar or a very high pick.

If I were running the team, I'd be waiting till right before the trade deadline to see who was going to be the worst 2-3 teams and trade someone or two for their pick.

Or, trade something like Peja, Miller, and SAR or KT, or maybe even more, for a superstar. (I'm in favor of keeping Bibby because he can perform in the clutch.) That way, you can sign the necessary complimentary free agents in the offseason because they'll want to come play for you.

Do people think this is a possibility?

That'd give us Bibby, Garcia/Martin, SuperstarX, a free agent center, and maybe Corliss. That doesn't look like a bad team to me. Give them a year to gel, and then...

We need to start asking ourselves how we are going to get our next superstar. Could we get LeBron? Carmello? Amare?

And as far as alienating fans by making moves and having some down time, therefore causing the team to move, then Sacramento just isn't mature enough/deserve to be an NBA city. You gotta have more guts than that. I think we do. We built them up during the pre Maloof era. We built this city... We built this cityyyyyyy......We built this city on BAS KET BAAAAAALLL... (Does anyone remember THAT song?)
 
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Uh...and the Maloofs saying that they expected this team to contend with any team in the league? I think they expected much more than this.
 
SacTownKid said:
Uh...and the Maloofs saying that they expected this team to contend with any team in the league? I think they expected much more than this.

That was very bad PR. I bet Petrie didn't say that. I don't know I don't live in Sac.
 
SacTownKid said:
Uh...and the Maloofs saying that they expected this team to contend with any team in the league? I think they expected much more than this.

Then they're the ones that should be called Cleopatra. The Maloofs seem to be getting into the habit of saying things they later have to revise, retract, or ignore...probably on bad advice. What I actually remember them saying is that they hoped this team could contend, that they realized changes had to be made and that's why they traded Webber, etc. I don't think they actually ever came out and said THIS current roster of players would necessarily be competitive.

I'm still thinking it's time to call Edwina Franklin.

:D
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Q - Is it time to panic?

A - Only if you suffered the delusion that this team was going to be good in the first place. Some of us, on the other hand, knew better.

For my part, I've expected this team to be sorry since February 23rd. And, much to my dismay, I have yet to be "disappointed."

Ditto.

And, man, have I been begging to be proven wrong. BEGGING.
 
SacTownKid said:
Uh...and the Maloofs saying that they expected this team to contend with any team in the league? I think they expected much more than this.
Did they really say that? Never had a chance to read that. They must either be joking or they really lost whatever basketball acumen they developed through the years of owning the Kings. :confused:

This current team has no chance to compete as an elite team they used to be. It's no playoff team to begin with.
 
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