Interesting article on Popovich's approach to building a team:

i don't know that i'd call it "interesting." its certainly nice to get affirmation from the outside, and its nice to hear a few positive words from pop, but a large contingent of members at kingsfans.com have been saying nearly the exact same things, verbatim, since keith smart took over for a fired paul westphal. hell, a lotta the same things were said during westphal's tenure, as well. and that is perhaps the most frustrating realization of all; outside of some moderately impressive, but woefully inconsistent, defensive improvement so far this season, very little has changed for the sacramento kings in the last few years. they're caught in a stasis, with a roster that is still terribly mismatched, and a head coach that is still intent on jerking his players around with the most confounding of rotations. what's more, the talent is still there: demarcus cousins, tyreke evans, and marcus thornton remain this team's centerpieces, but it hasn't resulted in any kind of consistency in the win column, which seems impossible, given their skillsets. the first is a potential once-in-a-generation center, the second is an effective slasher and bullheaded defensive stopper, and the third is a clutch, dead-eye scoring machine. how can keith smart be ****ing this up so royally?! even with an overall roster this mismatched, its unbelievable to me that more wins aren't being squeezed out of the talents on the court. rotation, rotation, rotation. it's been the mantra at kingsfans.com, and it will continue to be so until keith smart figures it out, or is fired for incompetency (the maloofs will foolishly hold out for as long as they can, of course)...
 
I read that yesterday. IMO, as what Padrino pointed out, it just points to the obvious and what many of us have said for awhile now.

One of the biggest differences between Smart and Pop, and the article says it, is that Pop has clear, defined roles, and makes those roles clear before even signing a player. His entire philosophy is broken down into roles, small pieces of an equation if you will, and he finds players to fit those roles. He finds players who are happy to put the team first. If you don't fall in line, you see the bench. Pop's equation doesn't really change from season to season, although he might tweak it based on personnel, while Smart's equation changes every 30 mins. There is no constant on this team. One thing which allows Pop to what he does however are his four rings. Smart has nowhere near the pedigree to get players to buy into that.

But going back to the difference between the two, Smart changes our players' roles from game to game, even half to half. While Pop finds defensive minded role players and specialists to fill roles, Smart tries to put a bunch of offensive gunners out there and gives them all the green light. While Pop has clear defined roles, and a somewhat normal sub pattern, and will sit a player if they're not doing what is asked, Smart is more concerned with getting the 10-12th men minutes, and playing time appears to have little to do with performance and more with has everyone gotten a chance to play tonight. If our players have a role going into a game, it changes mid-game in order to get Jimmer/Outlaw/Brooks/Cisco more minutes.

There's just no rhyme or reason to what Smart does. We don't have roles and we don't have a system to buy into. Players have played very well some night and not so well other night, yet the minute distribution never seems to add up to performance. We've seen players playing horribly and getting extended run while keeping the hotter player on the bench. We see lineups which change from game to game and half to half. We see no set hierarchy within our offense and an increasing problem of our PG's, all three, looking more for their own than actually running an offense. We see iso's run for non-scorers out of timeouts every game. We see more emphasis on getting the 10th man shots and a rhythm than the 2nd or 3rd man. We hear defense is important, then we see Jimmer/Brooks/MT/Outlaw lineups. We see Smart changing sub patterns every single game so players don't know when they're coming in or out or who they'll be playing alongside. I could go on but I'm just tired of regurgitating all this.

Yes the roster doesn't fit, but Smart's use of the roster we have shows an asinine philosophy.
 
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I read that yesterday. IMO, as what Padrino pointed out, it just points to the obvious and what many of us have said for awhile now.

One of the biggest differences between Smart and Pop, and the article says it, is that Pop has clear, defined roles, and makes those roles clear before even signing a player. His entire philosophy is broken down into roles, small pieces of an equation if you will, and he finds players to fit those roles. He finds players who are happy to put the team first. If you don't fall in line, you see the bench. Pop's equation doesn't really change from season to season, although he might tweak it based on personnel, while Smart's equation changes every 30 mins. There is no constant on this team. One thing which allows Pop to what he does however are his four rings. Smart has nowhere near the pedigree to get players to buy into that.

But going back to the difference between the two, Smart changes our players' roles from game to game, even half to half. While Pop finds defensive minded role players and specialists to fill roles, Smart tries to put a bunch of offensive gunners out there and gives them all the green light. While Pop has clear defined roles, and a somewhat normal sub pattern, and will sit a player if they're not doing what is asked, Smart is more concerned with getting the 10-12th men minutes, and playing time appears to have little to do with performance and more with has everyone gotten a chance to play tonight. If our players have a role going into a game, it changes mid-game in order to get Jimmer/Outlaw/Brooks/Cisco more minutes.

There's just no rhyme or reason to what Smart does. We don't have roles and we don't have a system to buy into. Players have played very well some night and not so well other night, yet the minute distribution never seems to add up to performance. We've seen players playing horribly and getting extended run while keeping the hotter player on the bench. We see lineups which change from game to game and half to half. We see no set hierarchy within our offense and an increasing problem of our PG's, all three, looking more for their own than actually running an offense. We see iso's run for non-scorers out of timeouts every game. We see more emphasis on getting the 10th man shots and a rhythm than the 2nd or 3rd man. We hear defense is important, then we see Jimmer/Brooks/MT/Outlaw lineups. We see Smart changing sub patterns every single game so players don't know when they're coming in or out or who they'll be playing alongside. I could go on but I'm just tired of regurgitating all this.

Yes the roster doesn't fit, but Smart's use of the roster we have shows an asinine philosophy.

The part that I found interesting, was the care Popovich takes in investigating every player he adds to the team. Its not done helter skelter, but with a precise purpose. I thought those that hadn't read the article would see the contrast between Pop's approach, and what seems to be our lack of any plan.
Everyone is always amazed how every player they trade for, sign, or draft, fits in so well with their system. Obviously its no accident.
 
The part that I found interesting, was the care Popovich takes in investigating every player he adds to the team. Its not done helter skelter, but with a precise purpose. I thought those that hadn't read the article would see the contrast between Pop's approach, and what seems to be our lack of any plan.
Everyone is always amazed how every player they trade for, sign, or draft, fits in so well with their system. Obviously its no accident.

Well, we USED to do this...when the goal was building a winner, with a good coach, owners that support the team, players wanting to come here. Now, we just throw a bunch of spaghetti on the wall and watch it stick, and call it whatever. Smh
 
Well, we USED to do this...when the goal was building a winner, with a good coach, owners that support the team, players wanting to come here. Now, we just throw a bunch of spaghetti on the wall and watch it stick, and call it whatever. Smh

We call it Kings basketball. I always find it funny when our guys say that they have to get back to playing Kings basketball, or go out and just play Kings basketball. Umm ... last I checked Kings basketball hasn't made the playoffs in how many years now? I wish they'd say they're going out to play Spurs basketball. But I joke of course.
 
Well, we USED to do this...when the goal was building a winner, with a good coach, owners that support the team, players wanting to come here. Now, we just throw a bunch of spaghetti on the wall and watch it stick, and call it whatever. Smh

That's the sad thing. At one point we were the poster child for this kind of roster building. Those Adelman coached teams hummed along playing efficient basketball no matter how deep he had to go into the bench to cover for injuries. Without that rudder we're just drifting about now watching talent come and go because we can't manage to get 5 players on the court at the same time who can play together. I don't think it's the player's fault. Our front office scouted them and brought them here. I don't even care about the wins and losses that much right now. You take the losses if you understand that the team is still learning but I've seen frightening little evidence of forward progress here, in fact very much the opposite.
 
One of the biggest differences between Smart and Pop, and the article says it, is that Pop has clear, defined roles, and makes those roles clear before even signing a player. His entire philosophy is broken down into roles, small pieces of an equation if you will, and he finds players to fit those roles. He finds players who are happy to put the team first. ......

Smart changes our players' roles from game to game, even half to half......

Well for starters, Pop has 15 years of having a Robinson and/or Duncan on his team, 4 NBA titles and 12 straight playoffs. Smart has all of part of one season of not very good players selected by others and now 7 games into his first season in which his best player is suspended 2 games and a team full of youth is buying into defense which is working. Offense takes a lot longer. Considering the hand (players) Smart was dealt he has done good so far but it is 20-30 games or even 2-3 more seasons too soon to have him and Pop in the same sentence other that Pop's philosophy is great to try to do.

Chill out folks. Coach has to work with what he's got and not you, I nor Coach is sure just what that is TEAM wise yet. Roles have not yet been defined or earned. I give you Tyreke for example. Where is his jumper and stop-and-pop he so desperately needs? Where is ball movement and player movement? Takes time.
 
Well for starters, Pop has 15 years of having a Robinson and/or Duncan on his team, 4 NBA titles and 12 straight playoffs. Smart has all of part of one season of not very good players selected by others and now 7 games into his first season in which his best player is suspended 2 games and a team full of youth is buying into defense which is working. Offense takes a lot longer. Considering the hand (players) Smart was dealt he has done good so far but it is 20-30 games or even 2-3 more seasons too soon to have him and Pop in the same sentence other that Pop's philosophy is great to try to do.

Chill out folks. Coach has to work with what he's got and not you, I nor Coach is sure just what that is TEAM wise yet. Roles have not yet been defined or earned. I give you Tyreke for example. Where is his jumper and stop-and-pop he so desperately needs? Where is ball movement and player movement? Takes time.

Says the guy who told us all to chill out the first week of preseason because Smart was just figuring out how to use his players then, implying he'd figure it out before training camp ended.

Then after the last preseason game you come in here with the opposite tone, saying WTF?, what is going on with Smart's sub patterns, he has to get this figured out and he had all training camp to do that.

Now you're back to telling people to chill out, while Smart murders one sub pattern after another.

These weaknesses from Smart aren't knew, not if you followed him at GS. He had the same weird rotations last year, and they got worse as the season progressed. Same thing in preseason. Now, we're still seeing it in the regular season. If you want to combine two issues, and act like the roster and Smart's in-game management are the same thing, go right ahead. I don't however. You know why? Because I've never seen such screwy rotations and lineups from any coach in the league, ever, and believe it or not, there's been much worse rosters than this in the NBA. Is putting Jimmer on Manu a roster issue? Is running Jimmer/Brooks/MT together a roster issue? Is running iso's for Chuck/Outlaw/JJ out of timeouts a roster issue? Not making MT the focus of the bench crew a roster issue? Playing all 12 guys a roster issue? If our roster is so poor and doesn't fit, it would be logical to assume it's easier to not to play everyone. But somehow, this poor roster which doesn't fit, and is 2-5, somehow at the same time is so good Smart has to find a way to get every last one of them on the floor?

If you think Smart has "done a good job so far with what he was dealt", I completely disagree. Our defense looked very good the first four games, and hopefully it gets back to that when Trob and Cuz return. Aside from that, color me highly unimpressed.
 
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“Those guys are young and energetic,” Popovich said. “They’re talented. They’re buying in defensively, paying attention and focusing on that. The future looks good. Keith‘s (Smart) done a good job of getting them all on the same page.”

He also told Smart that the Kings are just young (hence the losing).

So if you take the guy at his word, no worries.

Sit back and enjoy the ride....

Right?
 
That's the problem with a player's coach like Smart, caught up in each individual player's playing time instead of how that player fits into the lineup. Matt Bonner might not be one of the 10 best players on this or last year's Kings team, but has been a major player for the Spurs the last 5 years. The Spurs rotation is filled with guys like that.

This Kings team has maybe two role players, neither of which are perimeter players. The spots on this team which should be filled by role players? All ball dominant guys. Even a guy like Outlaw, who is best known for taking contested long 2's, was added to this team and expected to be a role player.

When Bonner or Diaw is in a game, it is for a specific purpose. Everytime Smart makes a sub, he is just rotating a player with some talent but with no regard for how he adds to the other players on the floor. A lot of that falls on Petrie as well.
 
It takes many years of support and great players to allow a Popovich or a Jerry Sloan approach to bear fruit. The support I am talking about is ownership and GM. The key here is that this has to start from the top. And well the Maloofs got lucky when they took over a team on it's way up. Since then it's been nothing but short sighted, desperate and on the cheap moves. Their moves are motivated to make a splash or to cut costs. Preferably doing both at the same time. So whether you like Smart or not, he's not going to make the end of his contract. But you can expect more stuff like Bill Walton and Jim Grey.
 
As long as the Maloofs keep dumpster diving for coaches, this team will be trash. Talent is irrelevant.
 
As long as the Maloofs keep dumpster diving for coaches, this team will be trash. Talent is irrelevant.

You know what they say, "One man's trash is another man's treasure". That dumpster diving is hard on the noggin though. Maybe thats why the Maloofs can't think straight.
 
“Those guys are young and energetic,” Popovich said. “They’re talented. They’re buying in defensively, paying attention and focusing on that. The future looks good. Keith‘s (Smart) done a good job of getting them all on the same page.”

He also told Smart that the Kings are just young (hence the losing).

So if you take the guy at his word, no worries.

Sit back and enjoy the ride....

Right?

Well ... I'm pretty sure that's what any coach would have said about the Bobcats last year if asked
 
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