If we draft Rubio what then?

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If we draft Ricky Rubio. What does that mean for Beno. Does he instantly get delegated to the bench or do we do anything in our power to trade him off? Or do we use Rubio as a the bench player for 1 season while Beno is the starter? Only problem with that is. Is Rubio is better than Beno now. So it would be hard for our new coach to keep Rubio out of the starting spot and I just think Beno going to the bench for a rookie could cause discort.
 
If we draft Ricky Rubio. What does that mean for Beno. Does he instantly get delegated to the bench or do we do anything in our power to trade him off? Or do we use Rubio as a the bench player for 1 season while Beno is the starter? Only problem with that is. Is Rubio is better than Beno now. So it would be hard for our new coach to keep Rubio out of the starting spot and I just think Beno going to the bench for a rookie could cause discort.

A Rookie contract is 4 years which is how many years are left on Beno's contract. Worst case is he is our overpaid backup during Rubio's rookie deal.

Ideally, keep him for 1 year while Rubio gets comfortable starting, then try to shop him to someone looking for a short term 2-3 year starting PG solution. Or look for a team like Orlando that gets an injury and needs a starter to contend. It would be a trade of opportunity since no team will go after Beno as a plan A. It will be a Plan B,C, or R
 
I don't think Rubio would start immediately. Obviously he could overwhelm us and force our hand into starting him, but I would guess Beno would hold on to the starting spot for the first year, and then relinquish it early on in Rubio's sophomore year.

Obviously Beno could be traded, but at this point the Maloofs are probably desperately hoping for at least 30 wins next season to appease the fans, and until we were sure that Rubio would work out, we'd have to hold on to Beno or risk another sub-20 win season.
 
If Rubio off the bench begins to consistently outperform Beno, hopefully, we will have a coach in place next year that will make a move if it calls for it.. After all, the last thing anyone needs is another Mikki/JT fiasco.

I do think Beno would be solid off the bench. In general, I think that's they type of player he is anyways. A solid backup pg.
 
Say we pick him with the number one pick. You DO NOT let a # 1 pick come off the bench! Does Derek Rose come off the bench? If we truly are in rebuild mode, why not start your " PG of the future"? We already know what we got with Beno, and that is a horribly inconsistant player that hurts you more than helps you. Rubio will be the better PG from day one!
 
Bjax is probably gone, so Kings will be needing lots of depth at PG next season since team currently has only Garcia as an emergency back-up. Even if Bjax is here, I've heard him say he can only give 15 mins to maybe up to 20 mins of effective effort as it currently stands. Beno played off the bench at San Antonio behind Parker so he's done sub thing many times in his career. If Ricky is wearing a Kings jersey (#6?) next season he will have to beat out Beno for the starting job and/or earn fairly extensive minutes Bjax has been getting throughout much of this season. Even with all his European pro experience, he would still be just 18 years of age at start of 09-10 season and finish it up at age 19. Do I think he can start right away in the NBA, sure. Do I think Ricky will immediately be an impact, sensational, all-star level PG from day one - probably not. Do I think Beno is a horrible, washed up PG - no. Beno has been playing better of late after mostly lackluster season - compared to last. He's still only 26 and I think with better teammates around him (growth of Hawes, JT, etc.), stability at head coach, staying healthy, he can have a needed role on the Kings, as effective starter or part of a solid bench mob. I've never detected a poor attitude coming from Beno (Salmons-like) about starting or coming off the bench.
 
Well IMO Rubio is already much more talented and skilled than Udrih, but Rudio is going to need time to adjust to the league, but there's no reason he shouldn't be doing that as a starter. What would we have to lose?
 
If Ricky is wearing a Kings jersey (#6?) next season...

That number was retired, remember? Big statue out front of Arco?

I wonder if that would quietly be undone if Rubio were coming and really wanted his traditional number. And would anybody actually complain?
 
That number was retired, remember? Big statue out front of Arco?

I wonder if that would quietly be undone if Rubio were coming and really wanted his traditional number. And would anybody actually complain?

Yep, I certainly know. That's why it would be interesting if he became a King and really wanted that number. He also has just "Ricky" on back of his jersey and may want that too in the NBA. Kind of like "Nene" insisting on that first name instead of Hillario, or "Pistol"for Pete Maravich or in MLB, "Ichiro" becoming the first player in league history to have first name on his back.
 
Yep, I certainly know. That's why it would be interesting if he became a King and really wanted that number. He also has just "Ricky" on back of his jersey and may want that too in the NBA. Kind of like "Nene" insisting on that first name instead of Hillario, or "Pistol"for Pete Maravich or in MLB, "Ichiro" becoming the first player in league history to have first name on his back.
Uh, I'm pretty sure that Maybyner actually had to have his name legally changed to "Nene" in order to have that on his uniform.
 
That number was retired, remember? Big statue out front of Arco?

I wonder if that would quietly be undone if Rubio were coming and really wanted his traditional number. And would anybody actually complain?

Considering the number hangs in the rafters, I doubt he'd get it. Don't think I'd really mind one way or the other since it isn't a "player's" number, but it does represent a retired number so l doubt it would happen.....
 
Uh, I'm pretty sure that Maybyner actually had to have his name legally changed to "Nene" in order to have that on his uniform.

No, Nene Hillario did not have too nor did he legally change his name. There was a lot of chatter in NBA and sports circles when it all went down before start of his rookie season. He wanted it as many Brazilians simply go by their first name - like "Pele." It was not a big deal as Denver organization was OK with it and NBA head office did not interfere. Back when Pete Maravich was drafted, the Atlanta Hawks organization emblazoned "Pistol" on his back. Not because Maravich insisted on it but solely for marketing purposes - and again the NBA gods did not object, giving tacit approval.
 
Beno goes to the bench and becomes possible trade bait to somebody that needs an emergency starting PG, like somebody else already said.

Rose and Westbrook are both starting. If Rubio were picked #2 by the Kings then I would think he would start. It's not like he'd be pushing Chris Paul to the bench. It's also likely that we're not going to be real competitive next year anyway. Commit to developing the kids, including both of this years 1sts and Donte.
 
Say we pick him with the number one pick. You DO NOT let a # 1 pick come off the bench! Does Derek Rose come off the bench? If we truly are in rebuild mode, why not start your " PG of the future"? We already know what we got with Beno, and that is a horribly inconsistant player that hurts you more than helps you. Rubio will be the better PG from day one!
More like you SHOULD NOT speak in absolutes. There are a lot of things that factor into whether or not a young player should be starting early. It is easy to say "well we suck anyway, just throw him out there", but that is too simplistic a way to look at things.

Rubio is still extremely young and will be adapting to a new country, new league, new rules, new teammates, etc. You don't know how he will react to all of these things, so it may very well be better to have him come off the bench early until he acclimates. Whether he would benefit from starting early on is unknown, which is the whole point. No one should pre-determine whether or not he should start.
 
More like you SHOULD NOT speak in absolutes. There are a lot of things that factor into whether or not a young player should be starting early. It is easy to say "well we suck anyway, just throw him out there", but that is too simplistic a way to look at things.

Rubio is still extremely young and will be adapting to a new country, new league, new rules, new teammates, etc. You don't know how he will react to all of these things, so it may very well be better to have him come off the bench early until he acclimates. Whether he would benefit from starting early on is unknown, which is the whole point. No one should pre-determine whether or not he should start.
Rubio would absolutely be starting by the all star break if we drafted him. Most likely sooner.
 
I think people are going to be surprised how incredibly mature and intelligent Rubio is about the game. He's played in about every situation a player can before entering the NBA, he's very experienced for his age and for a prospect in general. If he doesn't start right away, it won't take him long.
 
trade beno and hope that we can get a young pg as part of the deal.... maybe the rockets would take him and give us brooks or lowry.
 
trade beno and hope that we can get a young pg as part of the deal.... maybe the rockets would take him and give us brooks or lowry.


I was thinking about that too (minus salaries, not sure how it would work) but it does sort of fit Houston's profile... solid steady PG with winning resume with Spurs and solid, not spectacular ability. They have plenty of scoring and defensive options, and Beno would just have to fit in instead of actually contribute on a nightly basis. But lowry and brooks are playing well, and so is von wafer (more of a SG i know, but still a G)
 
To answer the initial question, what then? We as Kings fans have another exciting player to cheer about.

Would he start immediately? Good God Naismith, I hope not. Let him spending his rookie year learning about the NBA, learning about the Kings and learning to be the point guard we'll want him to be for years to come.

Point guards RARELY shine the first couple of years. Look at Tony Parker, for example. We utilizie Beno and give Rubio the chances he needs and split the minutes accordingly.

I think some of you are just way too fixated on the "starter" label, often at the expense of the player involved. Get a coach who knows what he's doing and we'll be in a much better position to ensure that Rubio becomes the best he can be. Fail in finding the right coach to maximize player usage and we're screwed no matter what the starting lineup on the court is...
 
IF we get Rubio, I'd say he definitely is starting by all star break and probably earlier. We wouldn't be contending next year so it would be ok if he makes some mistakes. Obviously he shouldn't be thrown in as the starter at day 1 and go for 40 minutes, but I think he could get good playing time at the beginning and it could consistently go up until he earns the starting job.
 
To answer the initial question, what then? We as Kings fans have another exciting player to cheer about.

Actually this is the best answer. What then? For me it means I buy League Pass next year for the first time ever so I can watch this kid from the start.
 
To me, if we draft ANY point guard in the first round, including the Houston pick, he should get MAJOR minutes. At least 30 min/games. You don't get better by sitting on the bench.
 
To answer the initial question, what then? We as Kings fans have another exciting player to cheer about.

Would he start immediately? Good God Naismith, I hope not. Let him spending his rookie year learning about the NBA, learning about the Kings and learning to be the point guard we'll want him to be for years to come.

Point guards RARELY shine the first couple of years. Look at Tony Parker, for example. We utilizie Beno and give Rubio the chances he needs and split the minutes accordingly.

I think some of you are just way too fixated on the "starter" label, often at the expense of the player involved. Get a coach who knows what he's doing and we'll be in a much better position to ensure that Rubio becomes the best he can be. Fail in finding the right coach to maximize player usage and we're screwed no matter what the starting lineup on the court is...

As a 19 year old rookie Tony Parker started 72 games out of 77 played, played 29mpg, and averaged 9ppg and 4apg. And that was on a team that went to the WCF.

Maybe you let Rubio 15-20 games on the books before he starts a game, just to ease expectations and get him a little accustomed. But in general, if we drafted him, he needs to play and play a lot. Particularly since in Beno, we have such a meediocre guy in that spot.
 
Grant Napear just said on KHTK and he's said it before that it's a "no-brainer" Blake Griffin will be #1 selection by whoever (including Kings) lands top pick. Grant cracks me up with his constant "I know everything" mentality as he's been burned before because of what can only be characterized as an arrogant, dogmatic mindset.
 
Grant Napear just said on KHTK and he's said it before that it's a "no-brainer" Blake Griffin will be #1 selection by whoever (including Kings) lands top pick. Grant cracks me up with his constant "I know everything" mentality as he's been burned before because of what can only be characterized as an arrogant, dogmatic mindset.

I think you just described a broadcaster from New York. Have you ever listened to Mike and the Mad Dog? Grant would fit right in if he was in the New York media.
 
I think you just described a broadcaster from New York. Have you ever listened to Mike and the Mad Dog? Grant would fit right in if he was in the New York media.

Absolutely. That's why Napear is a terrible aberration in Sacramento or most anywhere in more laid-back California. How he's survived here for over two decades is insidious - plus I doubt he'd go over anywhere else - especially in a big, competitive market. If I had a couple wishes for Kings broadcasting next season it would be that he and Angela Tsai disappear together from town.
 
As a 19 year old rookie Tony Parker started 72 games out of 77 played, played 29mpg, and averaged 9ppg and 4apg. And that was on a team that went to the WCF.

Maybe you let Rubio 15-20 games on the books before he starts a game, just to ease expectations and get him a little accustomed. But in general, if we drafted him, he needs to play and play a lot. Particularly since in Beno, we have such a meediocre guy in that spot.

Are you sure about your facts?

Good God Naismith, I think we shouldn't listen to the old school of thinking of developing such a player in a very slow way, especially true if in case of VF21's example of Parker it was proven to be a very wrong way of doing it. I don't even remember Parker as had been drafted at top ten and yet, he became one of the elite point guards in this league despite being used "early" as starter.

I would say 5-10 games as back up to Beno, then start him the rest of the season to accelerate his development. He deserves, or at least should be expected to be a capable starter as early as possible, especially if we think he deserves to be drafted #1 or #2 on this draft.


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To answer the initial question, what then? We as Kings fans have another exciting player to cheer about.

Would he start immediately? Good God Naismith, I hope not. Let him spending his rookie year learning about the NBA, learning about the Kings and learning to be the point guard we'll want him to be for years to come.

Point guards RARELY shine the first couple of years. Look at Tony Parker, for example. We utilizie Beno and give Rubio the chances he needs and split the minutes accordingly.

I think some of you are just way too fixated on the "starter" label, often at the expense of the player involved. Get a coach who knows what he's doing and we'll be in a much better position to ensure that Rubio becomes the best he can be. Fail in finding the right coach to maximize player usage and we're screwed no matter what the starting lineup on the court is...
Tony Parker played 77 games in his rookie season, starting 72 of those games and averaging 29.4mpg! Hardly the example of your preferred approach! ;)
 
Ricky must be the starte PG. He is better than Beno today, and when some games will be played, Ricky should be our Point Guard.

He played the first time in ACB League with #32, and then, he had taken #9 in DKV Joventud. He plays in Spanish team with #6 because is the only free number to choose.
 
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