If Theus used an 10 man rotation...

Gary

Gary

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If Theus used an 10 man rotation who would you play, and how many minutes?

I look at our top players, and think to myself if we used an 10 man rotation w/ players knowing how much time they would get each night than we would be a better team than one night 15 minutes for player "A" and the next night 3 minutes..

If this team was mine, and I didn't have to worry about playing a guy because he makes 7 mil a year I would choose this rotation listed below.. Reason is because I would like to go young and shelf our older guys....

C - Hawes 25-30mins / Miller 15-20mins / Williams 3-8minutes
PF - Moore 20-25mins / Williams 20-25mins
SF - Artest 30-35mins / Garcia 10-15mins / Salmons 3-5mins
SG - Martin 35-40mins / Salmons 5-10mins / Garcia 3-5mins
PG - Bibby 30-35mins / Douby 8-12mins / Salmons 5-8mins

Martin - 35-40mins
Bibby - 30-35mins
Artest - 30-35mins
Hawes - 25-30mins
Williams - 23-33mins
Moore - 20-25mins
Miller - 15-20mins
Salmons - 13-23mins
Garcia - 13-18mins
Douby - 8-12mins

Time wise am I going over a bit? I thought the math was OK, but it seems that there are a lot of minutes going around here. Let me know if I am way over..

There ya go.. The 10 players I would use w/ the amnt of minutes I woul play them each. I know I am leaving off players.. A lot of players, but I don't think they help us when they are on the floor. SAR imo does not help us.. Neither does KT.. I feel if we have the "right" lineup on the floor our rebounding will be OK (although still a bit underavg). :cool:
 
Like the big man rotation, but suspect Hawes and Miller's numbers will be reverse. But agree on the no time for SAR and KT front.
 
I love the no time for SAR or KT haha.

I dont buy that "but it'll kill their trade value!" arguement either. If those guys had trade value they'd be gone by now. Might as well let em rot on the bench til they become movable expiring contracts.
 
gunks said:
I love the no time for SAR or KT haha.

I dont buy that "but it'll kill their trade value!" arguement either. If those guys had trade value they'd be gone by now. Might as well let em rot on the bench til they become movable expiring contracts.
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Agree... They will not have value until it's the last eyar on their contract... Unless we wanted to get back a crappy contract/player in return I believe we shoudl just let them sit on the bench.
 
I like the rotation but I hope Shakur and Greene can get some time at PG as well. I agree, no time for KT, but I think SAR should get something because at least he can contribute some points and a few rebounds.
 
Gary said:
C - Hawes 25-30mins / Miller 15-20mins / Williams 3-8minutes
PF - Moore 20-25mins / Williams 20-25mins
SF - Artest 30-35mins / Garcia 10-15mins / Salmons 3-5mins
SG - Martin 35-40mins / Salmons 5-10mins / Garcia 3-5mins
PG - Bibby 30-35mins / Douby 8-12mins / Salmons 5-8mins

Martin - 35-40mins
Bibby - 30-35mins
Artest - 30-35mins
Hawes - 25-30mins
Williams - 23-33mins
Moore - 20-25mins
Miller - 15-20mins
Salmons - 13-23mins
Garcia - 13-18mins
Douby - 8-12mins
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I like it. I suspect SAR will see some PT, however. I still maintain that KT might not even be here at the start of the season so I have no problem whatsoever with him not being included above.

As far as Hawes and Miller go, word is that Brad has really worked hard and, if true, I suspect he will indeed get more minutes than Hawes, who is a rookie after all... I'd also boost Douby's minutes a bit, probably at the expense of John Salmons and I won't be surprised if Theus does.

I'd pay to watch that team. Oh wait... I am paying. Just not every night in Arco. But I will be watching and doing the nightly Play-by-Plays here at KF and that's a kind of payment, right?

GO KINGS!!!
 
VF21 said:
I like it. I suspect SAR will see some PT, however. I still maintain that KT might not even be here at the start of the season so I have no problem whatsoever with him not being included above.

As far as Hawes and Miller go, word is that Brad has really worked hard and, if true, I suspect he will indeed get more minutes than Hawes, who is a rookie after all... I'd also boost Douby's minutes a bit, probably at the expense of John Salmons and I won't be surprised if Theus does.

I'd pay to watch that team. Oh wait... I am paying. Just not every night in Arco. But I will be watching and doing the nightly Play-by-Plays here at KF and that's a kind of payment, right?

GO KINGS!!!
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Is there any basis, or insider basis on this matter? I'm sure petrie is desperately trying to move him for something LESS crappy.
 
I am excited to see how these guys play out this year. We aren't going to win any championships, but contrary to some doomsday predicitions on this board, this team will be fun to watch, and we are starting to put together some pieces. So, I think this thread is an excellent idea- let's maximize what we have, and let some young guys grow. Here's how I think things might shake out...

C- Miller- 30/ Hawes- 15/ Williams-3
PF- Moore- 25/ Williams- 15/ SAR- 8
SF- Artest- 35/ Garcia- 13
SG- Martin-35/Salmons- 8/Garcia-5
PG- Bibby-35/ Douby-10/Salmons-3

I like the idea of having some junk ballers up front, and I think we should try to have either Moore or Williams on the floor as much as possible. I think SAR will see some time (too much of a good soldier, solid vet, with a post game to not get any time).

I worry about Garcia and Douby. I would love to see them get as much time as possible (because I think Garcia will be a big part of Kings circa 2010, and I am curious to see if Douby can be as well). However, I would also love to see Salmons on the floor as much as possible because I like him as a glue guy who does the little things.

Ideally, I would love to clear up the glut at the swing positions. I would be in favor of moving Artest for a young PF and a high draft pick (if we could find that). Then you could go

SF: Garcia-35/ Salmons-13
SG- Matin-35/Salmons-8/Douby-5
PG- Bibby-35/Douby-13

That would make me very happy. But I am excited for this season regardless...
 
BMiller52 said:
yea I'd like to know also, anyway it's an awesome feature!:D
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I agree.

Also a really great weapon of terror: :D

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Here's the experiment that I would like to see used/tested this season.
Basically it means moving Bibby into a Vinny Johnson 'instant offense' role and moving Artest into the starting PG role. Also making Justin Williams the starting PF, and providing two seats in the stands for KT & SAR. If the idea failed early in the pre-season, I would drop it and move on. But here's how it would look:
PG-Artest /Douby
/Bibby
SG-Martin /Douby/Salmons
SM-Garcia /Salmons
PF-Williams /Moore
C-Miller/Hawes /Moore

No one would get more than 32 min/game, and Bibby would be the first one off the bench. He would get 20-30 min/game - depending on how hot he was on any given night. Obviously Miller & Hawes would both end up with less than 30 min/game - unless one of em manages to get some minutes behind Justin at PF (without hurting our rebounding). This line-up looks a whole lot more fun to watch than last year's group, but of course it depends on Artest's ability (and willingness) to distribute. But if he can't adjust to the role, I might be tempted to switch him with Cisco and see if that combination might work better. It wouldn't change the players on the floor, it would only change their roles.
 
I suppose that would work - in NBA2K7 or whatever.

PG - Bibby/Douby
SG - Martin/Salmons/Douby
SF - Artest/Garcia/Salmons
PF - Moore/Williams
C - Miller/Hawes/Moore

That's a little more logical, IMHO - we aren't gonna see RonRon at the point. And I would not be happy if we did.
 
VF21 said:
I suppose that would work - in NBA2K7 or whatever.

PG - Bibby/Douby
SG - Martin/Salmons/Douby
SF - Artest/Garcia/Salmons
PF - Moore/Williams
C - Miller/Hawes/Moore

That's a little more logical, IMHO - we aren't gonna see RonRon at the point. And I would not be happy if we did.
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I suppose we could call that predictable! Not that it's bad, but why not try something different to see if it works? Is the risk too great?
 
jcassio said:
I suppose we could call that predictable! Not that it's bad, but why not try something different to see if it works? Is the risk too great?
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Um, because this is real basketball and not NBA2K7? Artest is NOT a point guard. Period. Just like Spud Webb wasn't a center.

It's easy to propose these kinds of fantasy situations when you're sitting behind a keyboard. But in the real basketball world you're not gonna see coaches doing things like that.

You don't see pitchers play center field. You don't quarterbacks kicking field goals.
 
I would like to see Douby become a true point guard before giving him more minutes at that slot. I realize that, in the NBA, in the perfect world, we would like to see most 6'3" players become point guards, but the fact of the matter is many are habitual tweeners, and ultimately struggle to make the transition to point. I'm not saying that's going to happen to Douby, but I certainly wouldn't want to put the pressure on him to struggle between the conundrum of shooting and passing at the same time (after all, his reputation is as scorer first, shooter second, passing third). I'd imagine that he starts out at SG at first if he gets the minutes, see how well his shooting fares, then how well his ballhandling fares, and then we take it up a notch and put his passing skills into play.
I do want to see Garcia get more minutes as well. Yes, he's ever the erratic player who shows flashes of great, unique potential highlighted by his tantalizing package of silky smooth shooting ability coupled with his latent interfering athleticism, in the form of blocking shots and stealing the basketball, but his boneheaded moves need to be cut down. I am in the boat of letting him play through his mistakes, hoping that he will improve them at the same time...hopefully that comes with more experience. I don't think 15-20 minutes is enough for him--say 20-25, at the least.
I don't feel the need to throw Hawes into the fray as of now. He may be offensively talented, but let's start with the pecking order--he may be a lottery pick rookie, but I'd trust a safer investment in the supposedly better conditioned Brad Miller, and perhaps insert some minutes for Mikki Moore. I've also said before, Hawes and Miller are sort of redundant, so I wouldn't try to equalize the minutes for both of them; one gets the majority (most likely Miller), the other minority. I'd like to stick Justin Williams into the equation as well--whereas Moore is more of a dunker and offensive intimidator with athleticism, Williams actually brings a different edge by actually rebounding and blocking shots well. He's had one year under his belt, let's see what he can do with more playing time.
 
VF21 said:
Um, because this is real basketball and not NBA2K7? Artest is NOT a point guard. Period. Just like Spud Webb wasn't a center.

It's easy to propose these kinds of fantasy situations when you're sitting behind a keyboard. But in the real basketball world you're not gonna see coaches doing things like that.

You don't see pitchers play center field. You don't quarterbacks kicking field goals.
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Didnt they used to have a league back in the 80's/90's where they had nobody over 6'6 or something like that?? Damn, Spud wouldnt have even been a shooting gaurd in that league. Oh, and just for the record Ron has no business playing PG on ANY team, let alone on the Kings...he isnt Magic Johnson for cryin' out loud.
 
VF21 said:
GO KINGS!!!
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Ha! That's awesome. I remember requesting spoiler tags last year, but I didn't want to get my hopes up. These are even better than what I imagined, though.

I guess I should try them out and make sure everybody knows that this post is completely off topic.

Thanks Jeremy!
 
VF21 said:
Um, because this is real basketball and not NBA2K7? Artest is NOT a point guard. Period. Just like Spud Webb wasn't a center.

It's easy to propose these kinds of fantasy situations when you're sitting behind a keyboard. But in the real basketball world you're not gonna see coaches doing things like that.

You don't see pitchers play center field. You don't quarterbacks kicking field goals.
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Hey hey...watch it....no making fun of NBA 2k series:D

Live is fair game tho...;)
 
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