I Think We Can All Agree That Cuttino Mobley Is Not Needed...
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VF21 said:
WORD!!!!
Some of you just can't seem to exist without bashing someone. Last year it was Webber and this year it's Cat. Who will you hate next year?
Whatever happened to rooting FOR your team and supporting your players?
Thank God the season is over...and not because of what the players did.
Some of you just can't seem to exist without bashing someone. Last year it was Webber and this year it's Cat. Who will you hate next year?
Whatever happened to rooting FOR your team and supporting your players?
Thank God the season is over...and not because of what the players did.
VF21 said:
WORD!!!!
Some of you just can't seem to exist without bashing someone. Last year it was Webber and this year it's Cat. Who will you hate next year?
Whatever happened to rooting FOR your team and supporting your players?
Thank God the season is over...and not because of what the players did.
Some of you just can't seem to exist without bashing someone. Last year it was Webber and this year it's Cat. Who will you hate next year?
Whatever happened to rooting FOR your team and supporting your players?
Thank God the season is over...and not because of what the players did.
I am not going to bash any of our players. We cannot judge what is in their heart and minds, nor are we on the court with them. I just watched bibby's postgame news conference. He kept saying that they would be good when they figured out their roles. He said that they do not need to worry about who scores. There needs to be role players and not everybody can be the scorers. He went on to say that whenever the role players understand that, they would be ok. I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO SPECULATE ABOUT WHO HE WAS REFERRING TO, BUT I DO BELEIVE THAT CHANGES ARE ON THE HORIZON!
AleksandarN said:
Are you reffering to my post?
At the risk of sounding like a bully, I was referring to the person who had to start this thread and, instead of simply posting HIS opinion, had to label it with the presumptuous "I think we can all agree..." title.
Cat may end up going elsewhere, but he wasn't a cancer to our team. He has heart and he wants to win. I will not fault his desire or his dedication to the game.
But it's obvious Cuttino is going to be the scapegoat so I'm not going to argue about it. I saw him play some very good basketball and I enjoyed it.
I would like to see a more defensive-minded OG and I think that's the direction Petrie will go in if Cuttino doesn't exercise HIS option.
I am not going to bash any one of our Kings tonight. What's the use? The season is over. They gave what they could - and it wasn't enough. I may be just tired, but I cannot follow the logic of someone who has to come onto a message board and berate a player who didn't do us harm. He didn't bad-mouth us; he didn't have a bad attitude; he produced what he could. He tried to change his game - which he's played the same way all his life - to meet our needs. That's enough for me...
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I'm not saying that Miller is not talented. My point is that the areas where the kings suffer most, rebounding, shot blocking, low post offense/defense make up a big part of the Center's responsibility. Brad is not very good at any of those things. Yes, he is a wonderful passer, and he has a great 18 foot shot as well. But my previous points still stand. Many of the things Kings need in a big man are qualities Brad does not have. Not to mention basic physical sturdiness. The big man the Kings really need is a 25 year old Vlade Divac. Brad will probably stay because that player does not exist. If he does stay, I will cheer him on. If he goes I will wish him well.
I wouldn't read to much into what Bibby said. I watched it too and I believe that he was just talking about the team as a whole because they weren't consistent nor did they have time to develop a chemistry. Therefore you will have players who don't really have a set role nor would they have time to know what their role is. Mike doesn't come off as the type of person to make cracks at other people in vague statements. I don't think he was referring to anyone in particular.
And about Cuttino. Where was all this when he was playing well? Without Cuttino some of those 50 wins would be losses. He may not have fit the Kings of old style but this is a new look Kings and they do not have the personnel to be the same passing team as before. The Kings style is changing because the players are changing. I think Cuttino can fit this team.
Cat is a very good player but bottom line, he does not fit on this team. Like Bibby said not everyone can be scorers. Cuttino would be forced to adjust his style of play to benefit the Kings and that may not be fair to him or us. He does what he does. I have watched him for the last couple years and what we saw this season is what he does. He is a scorer, plain and simple. There are teams out there that need his scoring but I don't think the Kings are one of those teams.
The problem with Miller is that the Kings can't pair him with a guy like Kenny Thomas (all KT's offense is at the high post as well, and his size prevents him from being much of a post defender/shotblocker), Songaila (another high post jumpshooter/non-shotblocker), or post-knee injury Webber (unless the goal is to have an all-jumpshooting, no defense frontcourt). Indiana was able to have a great defense with Miller on the court, because they had O'Neal at PF and Artest on the wings. Dalembert would have been a nice partner for Miller (still can't believe we didn't get him in the trade)m or maybe a player like Chris Anderson or Steven Hunter (unfortunately, neither is good enough to be a full time solution upfront) could help.
Word.
I read somewhere yesterday that Dalembert doesn't have a good relationship with the coach and is looking to leave Philly. He is a restricted free agent so we couldn't outbid other teams but if we could do sign and trade he would be a very good fit for us as he complements the team and makes a good combo with Miller.
I read somewhere yesterday that Dalembert doesn't have a good relationship with the coach and is looking to leave Philly. He is a restricted free agent so we couldn't outbid other teams but if we could do sign and trade he would be a very good fit for us as he complements the team and makes a good combo with Miller.
Not exactly. 82games.com has assisted basket percentages for all players. 61% of Mobley's baskets were assisted, while Peja was just a little 'better' at 65%.
Anyway, I think Kings fans were a little too used to Doug Christie (basically a PG, and a fairly passive one at that) playing SG - most SG's primarily shoot the ball; that's their job in most systems.
Anyway, I think Kings fans were a little too used to Doug Christie (basically a PG, and a fairly passive one at that) playing SG - most SG's primarily shoot the ball; that's their job in most systems.
Good points about Bibby and I agree no one should try to read anything more into his comments than what was said. I think WAY TOO MUCH TIME has been wasted here and everywhere else by people trying too hard to read between the lines when sometimes the only thing between the lines is space...empty space.
I just meant passing not assists. Peja will often be the last person in a chain of people to touch the ball. An assist directly leads to a basket and an assist will be negated if the player puts the ball on the floor and makes some moves even if 4 passes were made to lead up to that point Cat will sometimes recieve the pass and then shoot it quick after one pass hence leading to an assist.
I don't think he ever really fit, and I doubt he will be coming back. I've made it clear quite a few times that I think Maurice is better for the Kings in every aspect (from age, to defense, to athleticism, to unselfishness). And on top of that, he is a whole lot cheaper. Quite funny.
But whenever a player leaves the Kings, even if I wasn't his biggest fan, a small part of me doesn't feel right. Even though he's only been here for a while, it will be weird not having him back.
But whenever a player leaves the Kings, even if I wasn't his biggest fan, a small part of me doesn't feel right. Even though he's only been here for a while, it will be weird not having him back.