I Now Know Who Donte Greene Reminds Me Of...

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Kingsguy881

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Danny Granger. 1 trey 1 block 1 steal player with the length and athleticism and the height to make a matchup nightmare.

There was a post earlier in the season comparing DG to Rashard Lewis, and while that is a fair comparison I think the fact that DG gets so many blocks it puts him a cut above a Rashard Lewis type player. DG just seems to have more passion on the defensive end than Lewis, even when Lewis was younger and poorer he wasn't as passionate about it as DG.

And look, Donte and Granger have the same initials too. Freaky......
 
#2
Lets just hope Donte isn't as injury plagued as him.. seemed like Granger was gonna be a star but i BARELY hear about him anymore.
 
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Speaking of Donte, did anyone else notice him calling out plays and initiating the offense last night against the Wolves? That was interesting. He's a bit of a showoff (which gets him yanked), but it seems like he has a fairly high basketball IQ, when he decides to use it.

I think he can be a very good player in this league. His potential is sky high, and while he's most valuable to us for his defense at the moment, he's got the potential to be a very well rounded player. I don't think that it's impossible for him to eventually become the second best guy on this team, if he reaches his maximum potential.
 

Tetsujin

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Danny Granger. 1 trey 1 block 1 steal player with the length and athleticism and the height to make a matchup nightmare.

There was a post earlier in the season comparing DG to Rashard Lewis, and while that is a fair comparison I think the fact that DG gets so many blocks it puts him a cut above a Rashard Lewis type player. DG just seems to have more passion on the defensive end than Lewis, even when Lewis was younger and poorer he wasn't as passionate about it as DG.

And look, Donte and Granger have the same initials too. Freaky......
The thing is that Donte is 6'11" (listed height), whereas Granger is 6'8". Physically, Donte is semi-freakish. Taller than a lot of 4s and speedier than some 2s. Couple that with his vertical explosion and you have yourself a walking mismatch.

All of the Rashard Lewis comparisons stem from last year where he just parked himself out at the three point line. Hell, I don't think he even dunked last year. The growth in Donte as a player has been phenomenal. I most definitely think that if he continues on this growth trajectory, he can be the Robin to Reke's Batman.
 
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Donte is a FAR superior athlete than Pierce. Pierce is a great shooter, and basketball player in general, however he is not super athletic.
Agreed, but obviously Pierce has an IT factor where he can hit great shots and is just consistent all around. I think Donte has all the tools to be a great player.
 
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Donte has the physical gifts to be a great player in this league, but he needs to get his head together. For every run-inspiring play, he also commits a key turnover. Once he learns to play to his strengths and not try to be so flashy, the sky is the limit for this young man. As for a player comparison, I'm thinking a taller Josh Smith. Donte has great athleticism, can fill the stat sheet, and can play wicked defense, plus Donte thinks he has more offensive ability than he really has. Well-rounded is the key definition of Donte.
 
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He has a serious showboating nature, a chestbeater, which he can't seem to turn off. You would think this has been pointed out to him a million times just this season yet he keeps repeating it. At what point do we say that's it? The worrysome thing for me is that has not yet shown that he gets the point. He has improved in many other areas but not in that.
 

Kingster

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I like the kid. He really, really loves the game. He's athletic. He's shown an ability to improve his game. He's coachable. Doesn't have a me-first attitude. Yeah, he's still a little immature on the basketball floor, but he'll mature, and I think he'll become very good. Give him a couple of years..
 
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Kingsguy881

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He has a serious showboating nature, a chestbeater, which he can't seem to turn off. You would think this has been pointed out to him a million times just this season yet he keeps repeating it. At what point do we say that's it? The worrysome thing for me is that has not yet shown that he gets the point. He has improved in many other areas but not in that.
He is young-acting, but that doesn't make him a bad person. He is having fun out there, it's not a job for him it's a game that he gets payed to play. If we took away the guy's enthusiasm for the game he would be a shell of himself.
 

Tetsujin

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He has a serious showboating nature, a chestbeater, which he can't seem to turn off. You would think this has been pointed out to him a million times just this season yet he keeps repeating it. At what point do we say that's it? The worrysome thing for me is that has not yet shown that he gets the point. He has improved in many other areas but not in that.
Oh no! Lebron pounds his chest after dunks too, should the Cavs pull him?

Good basketball players should play regardless of their "showboating" tendencies unless they are a detriment to the team (I'm thinking Ron Ron, Rodman and even in those cases, the sheer awesomeness of the players around them offset the maniacal tendencies).

So Donte likes to do the flashy one-hand behind the head poster dunks, oh well. IMHO, our team would be helped by that more than hurt (More media attention, more fans, more revenue, so on and so forth).
 
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sactownfan

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By the time Evans gets his jump shot on lock down... Greene, if he continues his steady improvement could be an all-star level player. He's so gifted, and has all the tools... It's just a matter of keeping his head together.

Man he is a serious x factor in this rebuild...
 

bajaden

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The thing is that Donte is 6'11" (listed height), whereas Granger is 6'8". Physically, Donte is semi-freakish. Taller than a lot of 4s and speedier than some 2s. Couple that with his vertical explosion and you have yourself a walking mismatch.

All of the Rashard Lewis comparisons stem from last year where he just parked himself out at the three point line. Hell, I don't think he even dunked last year. The growth in Donte as a player has been phenomenal. I most definitely think that if he continues on this growth trajectory, he can be the Robin to Reke's Batman.

Donte's listed height may 6'11", but at the combine he measured 6'8.25" without shoes, and 6'9" in shoes. So he would have had to grow 2 more inches since then to be 6'11". Not out of the realm of possiblities, but unlikely. However, it doesn't take away from his accomplishments this year. Its certainly not the difference between Clark Kent and Superman. :)
 

bajaden

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He has a serious showboating nature, a chestbeater, which he can't seem to turn off. You would think this has been pointed out to him a million times just this season yet he keeps repeating it. At what point do we say that's it? The worrysome thing for me is that has not yet shown that he gets the point. He has improved in many other areas but not in that.
I really don't mind the chestbeating after a great play. Sometimes you don't know whats being said out there on the floor by the guy thats guarding you. What I do mind is when he or any player goes out of his way to showboat by trying something more difficult when an easy way to do it was there. Such as doing a windmill dunk and missing it, when a simple dunk would have sufficed. Donte does have an inclination to do that at times. But all in all, he has really improved from last year. So I would rather dwell on the positives.
 
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Donte's listed height may 6'11", but at the combine he measured 6'8.25" without shoes, and 6'9" in shoes. So he would have had to grow 2 more inches since then to be 6'11". Not out of the realm of possiblities, but unlikely. However, it doesn't take away from his accomplishments this year. Its certainly not the difference between Clark Kent and Superman. :)
Donte and JT are pretty close and he's clearly taller than Landry.
 

Tetsujin

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Donte and JT are pretty close and he's clearly taller than Landry.
Yeah having just seem them stand side by side at the season ticket holder doohickey, Donte is as tall as if not a tad bit taller than JT. Both pale to Spencer's scrawny tallness though (That man's a legit 7'1").
 

bajaden

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Donte and JT are pretty close and he's clearly taller than Landry.
Just posting the facts from the combine. I didn't measure him. Its possible that he grew. I remember there was a point guard recently that went to the combine and measured out at 5'11". He ended up withdrawing his name and going back to college for another year. The very next year he returned to the combine and measured out at 6'0". Don't remember his name. I think it might have been Ty Lawson, but I'm not sure.
 

Bricklayer

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Donte's listed height may 6'11", but at the combine he measured 6'8.25" without shoes, and 6'9" in shoes. So he would have had to grow 2 more inches since then to be 6'11". Not out of the realm of possiblities, but unlikely. However, it doesn't take away from his accomplishments this year. Its certainly not the difference between Clark Kent and Superman. :)

I poo pooed it before the season but after seeing him this year I think donte is at least 6'10", maybe evena tad taller. Looking for a clear pic just standing next to a guy.

Here's a pretty good one.



perspective a bit of an issue here, but he actually looks taller than JT in this pic:


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Yeah he's got good stuff. What he brings to the table I see as championship ingredients. In a way he reminds me of AK47. He and Reke play very well together, and they hook up for exciting plays which gets them both into the game. If I were coach I'd use him for that reason alone, not to mention everything else he does. Yeah he has some maturing to do but hopefully Reke's taciturn and stolid behavior will rub off on him and he'll settle some.
 

SLAB

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So Donte likes to do the flashy one-hand behind the head poster dunks, oh well. IMHO, our team would be helped by that more than hurt (More media attention, more fans, more revenue, so on and so forth).
This.

I love Donte. When he's gotten consistent minutes he has been fun, flashy, and most importantly our best and most explosive SF.
I said awhile back, and still stand by it, that this guy needs to be the starter on this team. He has mucho potential, and he is just fun to watch. Methinks the brainfarts will leave with experience, and when a team has a chance to give a 22 year old said experience it needs to be done.
 

Tetsujin

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This.

I love Donte. When he's gotten consistent minutes he has been fun, flashy, and most importantly our best and most explosive SF.
I said awhile back, and still stand by it, that this guy needs to be the starter on this team. He has mucho potential, and he is just fun to watch. Methinks the brainfarts will leave with experience, and when a team has a chance to give a 22 year old said experience it needs to be done.
The last young SF we had that had a propensity for brainfarts and flashy showtime dunks was just an all-star for Charlotte this year. I'd hope we've learned our lesson.
 
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Yup, exactly what I was thinking...some say Donte reminds people of Rashard Lewis, some say Marvin Williams...I say Donte is paving an individual path all on his own, he's 6'11 and can jump out of the building, create his own shot, and can now play good defense. Does he make boneheaded decisions still...yes, but the thing is is that he learns from them now most of the time and rarely makes the same blunder more than once.
 
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You want us to go to the extremes of being a homer? I will go to the max. IMO, Donte Greene might very well end up the Scottie Pippen of Michael Jordan. Of course, with that I mean our phenom kid Evans might very well turn out to be our Jordan. :D

As to Greene's perceived showboating, let the kid have some fun and don't kill that enthusiasm in his game. I hate it when the coach put's off a player's passion on his game when clearly it is not detrimental to winning. BTW, that also applies when a player wants to get a triple-double. IMO, Evans should have been allowed and encouraged to get that triple-double last game. They need those kind of accomplishments/experiences tucked on their belt. It inspires them more. Why stop them from having it?
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
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You want us to go to the extremes of being a homer? I will go to the max. IMO, Donte Greene might very well end up the Scottie Pippen of Michael Jordan. Of course, with that I mean our phenom kid Evans might very well turn out to be our Jordan. :D
Why not go to super homer standards and say that we may just end up with Michael and LeBron on the same team? :D
 
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I like Donte Green, alot. I see loads more potential in him than say that of Hawes or Thompson.

Westphal has mentioned that he has responded well to coaching advice about being less flashy and having better shot selection. I think he should get more minutes and a good amount of the coaches time to develop him closer to his potential.

Poor Thompson - some people are just born smarter than others :(
 
#29
I want to put Donte Greene in the same class as a Danny Granger. He needs to show more consistency to get in that class even. Yea, and aint it funny how Granger talk fell off the planet? He was rocking and rolling for a minute. He is still playing but I guess Indiana's record is keeping the Danny Granger talk down.

I sure would like Donte to become a solid and steady contributor. This team is talent deficient, and if we can raise up our own talent by improving our young players, then that is less talent we have to bring in through free agency which is expensive!
 
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Kingsguy881

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I want to put Donte Greene in the same class as a Danny Granger. He needs to show more consistency to get in that class even. Yea, and aint it funny how Granger talk fell of the planet? He was rocking and rolling for a minute. He is still playing but I guess Indiana's record is keeping the Danny Granger talk down.

I sure would like Donte to become a solid and steady contributor. This team is talent deficient, and if we can raise up our own talent by improving our young players, then that is less talent we have to bring in through free agency which is expensive!
Donte's #'s this year, his first REAL year in the league, have been very similar to Granger's first year in the league. And the fact that Donte has the potential to give you 1 trey 1 steal and 1 block a game puts him in very rare territory. The thing about it is that Granger's first year in the league was at the same age Donte is now. He averaged more rebs, less points, and about the same blocks/steals/treys. Here, you decide:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4490/career;_ylt=AuETAagR5m2sraGQCWzvEiPnPaB4


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