How Many Freaking Times Will We See This Team Fall Apart ? Pathetic

well the good news is...today is Friday...the last two games we played on Friday...were pretty memorable

last friday against the knicks....MIRACLE come back
previous friday against the rockets....OT win due to Webbs beautiful 3 point shot to force it to OT

so if the pattern continues we should all be just gushing after the game
 
iheartBrad said:
well the good news is...today is Friday...the last two games we played on Friday...were pretty memorable

last friday against the knicks....MIRACLE come back
previous friday against the rockets....OT win due to Webbs beautiful 3 point shot to force it to OT

so if the pattern continues we should all be just gushing after the game

knock on wood.
 
i think everybody needs to take their fingers off the panic button. it certainly is not fair to call this team "pathetic." we all know the kings are a weak rebounding team, and they made a few major mistakes in the clutch against seattle, which, in all honesty, has been a rarity this seaosn. the kings have performed well in the clutch thru most of the season. obviously, they will never be a perfect clutch team, and this was evident last night. they played a tight game against seattle the entire way, but lost it in the final 2 minutes. that really sucks, but they certainly proved they can play with the elite. the sonics are, without a doubt, the hottest shooting team in the nba. phoenix kills ya in the open court, but they do it with entry passes in the paint for lotsa dunks. seattle is, primarily, a transition 3-pt shooting team. they love to run and shoot the 3-ball. we played right with them the whole game, and, in fact, shot better than them. unfortunately, the lack of rebounding hurt us very badly. obviously didnt help that brad miller wasnt there, regardless of the fact that he cant jump. tough loss, but ya keep on keepin on.
 
The very title of the thread exposes the misconceptions of those who fail to actuacly study the games in their mad rush to a final socre. Kings win they have it made, Kings loose and they fell apart loose tow in a row and a trad is demanded.

Calm down kids there IS NO CRISIS! The Kings lost 3 close games in a row to good teams. Sure there were momentary mistakes, some bad judgment calls and even some reaction to bad refing, but in the end the Kings were in the game to the final second, averaged 107 points per game and over all executed well. Thier lack of rebounding is a problem, but not insurmontable, the poor over defense is much less of a worry when you study the games. Against the best offense in the NBA, the Kings look very good in the the first half as far as defense goes. Historicaly this Kings team has greatly upped it's defense and rebounded better in the play offs. Now I don't like that the Kings dont play tough defense through out the season, but that is just the way these guys play.

Given The Suns scorching play the Kings are likely to be stuck in the number 4 slot come paly off time, but hey as "pathetic" as their paly has been they are the #5 team in the west (untill appromaxitaly 9:30 pm) #6 over all in the NBA and more or less healthy. By no streach is this a melt down in progress. Team loose games, it happnes. The even have slumps, but if loosing 3 games in a row by an average of 5 points is a slump then the 6 game steak we wnet on anf the 6-10 game streaks this team is likely to go on down the streach here must be pure domination.

Now if you all will excuse me I need to leave my office and pick up some tortillias and fixings for salsa so I can make buritos be fore game time. Beceause I paln on watching the team I love defend their home court and send a message to those who doubt them.
 
Padrino said:
i think everybody needs to take their fingers off the panic button. it certainly is not fair to call this team "pathetic." we all know the kings are a weak rebounding team, and they made a few major mistakes in the clutch against seattle, which, in all honesty, has been a rarity this seaosn. the kings have performed well in the clutch thru most of the season. obviously, they will never be a perfect clutch team, and this was evident last night. they played a tight game against seattle the entire way, but lost it in the final 2 minutes. that really sucks, but they certainly proved they can play with the elite. the sonics are, without a doubt, the hottest shooting team in the nba. phoenix kills ya in the open court, but they do it with entry passes in the paint for lotsa dunks. seattle is, primarily, a transition 3-pt shooting team. they love to run and shoot the 3-ball. we played right with them the whole game, and, in fact, shot better than them. unfortunately, the lack of rebounding hurt us very badly. obviously didnt help that brad miller wasnt there, regardless of the fact that he cant jump. tough loss, but ya keep on keepin on.
In the words of KP: ^Good post.

:D
 
HndsmCelt said:
The very title of the thread exposes the misconceptions of those who fail to actuacly study the games in their mad rush to a final socre. Kings win they have it made, Kings loose and they fell apart loose tow in a row and a trad is demanded.

Calm down kids there IS NO CRISIS! The Kings lost 3 close games in a row to good teams. Sure there were momentary mistakes, some bad judgment calls and even some reaction to bad refing, but in the end the Kings were in the game to the final second, averaged 107 points per game and over all executed well. Thier lack of rebounding is a problem, but not insurmontable, the poor over defense is much less of a worry when you study the games. Against the best offense in the NBA, the Kings look very good in the the first half as far as defense goes. Historicaly this Kings team has greatly upped it's defense and rebounded better in the play offs. Now I don't like that the Kings dont play tough defense through out the season, but that is just the way these guys play.

Given The Suns scorching play the Kings are likely to be stuck in the number 4 slot come paly off time, but hey as "pathetic" as their paly has been they are the #5 team in the west (untill appromaxitaly 9:30 pm) #6 over all in the NBA and more or less healthy. By no streach is this a melt down in progress. Team loose games, it happnes. The even have slumps, but if loosing 3 games in a row by an average of 5 points is a slump then the 6 game steak we wnet on anf the 6-10 game streaks this team is likely to go on down the streach here must be pure domination.

Now if you all will excuse me I need to leave my office and pick up some tortillias and fixings for salsa so I can make buritos be fore game time. Beceause I paln on watching the team I love defend their home court and send a message to those who doubt them.
^Another good post.

Enjoy the tortillias and salsa, HndsmCelt! :)

GO KINGS!!!!
 
I really don't know why everyone is flipping out. We have the same problems that we've had for years. Once playoffs come around, the same teams that are in 1st place in their divisions now will still be at that time. That puts Sac in either 4th or 5th seed depending on how well Dallas does. A healthy Sac can still beat Dallas in a 7 game series (I hope). That means we'd play the winner of the 1st vs. 8th seed (San Antoinio). We've never played them in a PO series, but my money would be on SA. There's more than a good chance we're looking at another 2nd round exit unless something drastic happens to fix our problems, but don't count on that. So you see? There really is no point getting all "slice your wrists" unhappy since it will all be for nothing anyways. I hope I've made some of you feel better. :)
 
HndsmCelt said:
The very title of the thread exposes the misconceptions of those who fail to actuacly study the games in their mad rush to a final socre. Kings win they have it made, Kings loose and they fell apart loose tow in a row and a trad is demanded.

Calm down kids there IS NO CRISIS! The Kings lost 3 close games in a row to good teams. Sure there were momentary mistakes, some bad judgment calls and even some reaction to bad refing, but in the end the Kings were in the game to the final second, averaged 107 points per game and over all executed well. Thier lack of rebounding is a problem, but not insurmontable, the poor over defense is much less of a worry when you study the games. Against the best offense in the NBA, the Kings look very good in the the first half as far as defense goes. Historicaly this Kings team has greatly upped it's defense and rebounded better in the play offs. Now I don't like that the Kings dont play tough defense through out the season, but that is just the way these guys play.

Given The Suns scorching play the Kings are likely to be stuck in the number 4 slot come paly off time, but hey as "pathetic" as their paly has been they are the #5 team in the west (untill appromaxitaly 9:30 pm) #6 over all in the NBA and more or less healthy. By no streach is this a melt down in progress. Team loose games, it happnes. The even have slumps, but if loosing 3 games in a row by an average of 5 points is a slump then the 6 game steak we wnet on anf the 6-10 game streaks this team is likely to go on down the streach here must be pure domination.

Now if you all will excuse me I need to leave my office and pick up some tortillias and fixings for salsa so I can make buritos be fore game time. Beceause I paln on watching the team I love defend their home court and send a message to those who doubt them.

All teams up their defense a bit and a lot has to do with the refs allowing the players to decide games and not calling tick tack fouls. Suns will end up in the 1st in the pac div and maybe even the conference, there is no way the kings can catch up to that.

Teams loose, yes that happens offcourse. The problem with the kings and the fans is that they are expecting to win the big one and that is not going to happen. Even you get out of the 4/5 matchup against the mavs still you are going to play the suns or the spurs and both look very tough. Many of the ardent kings fans would argue that the suns can be beaten, thats cos we are all thinking about the suns of the past, if they end up #1 then they have to be real good to be there and they will win that matchup. Where does that leave you, at a second round exit which is what has happened most of the past few years other than the one CF with the lakers

If you want to get your torilla/burrito whatever that may be then whats your point about posting here
 
The biggest reason for yesterdays melt down was webber taking those consecutive shots to prove a point to the crowd and was that necessary, is it the kings who lost or was it webber. But the kings and adelaman allowed that happen and he had no control over the game. If the players want to prove a point to the crowd they should win the game and not prove it by taking a few shots and making them.

What are the chances of webber making three pointers, a lot less than bibby/peja/cmob etc etc and why was he taking it, to prove a point. Yeah sure he made one three pointer but after that what about defense and what about the missed shots and the rebounds
 
vladetomiller said:
The biggest reason for yesterdays melt down was webber taking those consecutive shots to prove a point to the crowd and was that necessary, is it the kings who lost or was it webber. But the kings and adelaman allowed that happen and he had no control over the game. If the players want to prove a point to the crowd they should win the game and not prove it by taking a few shots and making them.

What are the chances of webber making three pointers, a lot less than bibby/peja/cmob etc etc and why was he taking it, to prove a point. Yeah sure he made one three pointer but after that what about defense and what about the missed shots and the rebounds

oh please. That might be the most ridiculous take yet. :rolleyes:
 
vladetomiller said:
All teams up their defense a bit and a lot has to do with the refs allowing the players to decide games and not calling tick tack fouls. Suns will end up in the 1st in the pac div and maybe even the conference, there is no way the kings can catch up to that.

Teams loose, yes that happens offcourse. The problem with the kings and the fans is that they are expecting to win the big one and that is not going to happen. Even you get out of the 4/5 matchup against the mavs still you are going to play the suns or the spurs and both look very tough. Many of the ardent kings fans would argue that the suns can be beaten, thats cos we are all thinking about the suns of the past, if they end up #1 then they have to be real good to be there and they will win that matchup. Where does that leave you, at a second round exit which is what has happened most of the past few years other than the one CF with the lakers

If you want to get your torilla/burrito whatever that may be then whats your point about posting here
The irony is that the year the Kings went to OT in a game 7 against the Lakers was the only year the Kngs were anything like healthy, and they were young and inexperienced facing a red hot Shaq Kobe tandem. This year the cometition is NOT that dominating. The Kings are in no way out classed by any team in the NBA right now. But my point is that the past 3 games were not meltdowns, disasters or debacles... they were clse games the Kings lost. Now we can criticize a few key moments or even an over all pattern of defense/rebounding and all would be valid criticism of how this team as is could easliy win these games against top teams. This is a question of house keeping and tuneing up to turn those clsoe losses into wins. I for on belive that Adelman and Carill will do just that.
 
vladetomiller said:
The biggest reason for yesterdays melt down was webber taking those consecutive shots to prove a point to the crowd and was that necessary, is it the kings who lost or was it webber. But the kings and adelaman allowed that happen and he had no control over the game. If the players want to prove a point to the crowd they should win the game and not prove it by taking a few shots and making them.

What are the chances of webber making three pointers, a lot less than bibby/peja/cmob etc etc and why was he taking it, to prove a point. Yeah sure he made one three pointer but after that what about defense and what about the missed shots and the rebounds


if memory serves me, Webb was making most of those shots! And I think he intended to win the game, it just didn't work out that way. Also, I don't have the exact number, but Webb's 3 point percentage is actually extremely high, mostly because he usually takes them when he is wide open. Don't think you can hang this loss on Webb, he almost had a triple double.
 
If We Would Just Stop With The No Pass Just Shoot Mentallity, Pass The Ball Around The Court And Run Our Offense, We Will Win More Ballgames.
 
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