The Kings can have 15 players under contract, 13 on the active roster. With a D league team I presume our owners can have at least another 12 under contract. Are the players at each level interchangeable meaning can they be moved up and down at the whim of ownership and, if so, doesn't that have the effect of giving the Kings a 27 player roster? Doesn't sound right so probably isn't. Anyone able to help me understand better how it works. Thanks in advance.i
How does a D League team "ownership work?
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bajaden
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Since the Kings now are the operating managers of the Reno team, its up to them to fill out the roster, and install a coaching staff. That is of course the plus of operating the team. You get to use the Reno team to install your offensive and defensive philosophy. As to players, and moving them to and from the D-League team, the only players you truely have control of are the players you would send down from the parent team. For instance, if you were to send down McCallum, you can pull him back up to the main squad anytime you want. The rest of the players on the D-League team can be brought up to the parent team, but you would have to either sign them to a 10 day contact, or sign them for the year if you desire to do so.
I should point out, that any other team can pull one of your players, not under contract to the Kings up to their team, and sign them. In short, although you sign players to D-League team, you really have no control over them contract wise, unless you actually sign them to the parent team.
The players salaries not under contract to the parent club don't count against the parent clubs cap, unless of course the parent club decides to sign them to a contract. So the D- League doesn't work exactly like baseball's minor league system. Maybe some day down the road, under a new CBA, that type of system can be installed. But it would have to be approved under the CBA.
Is there something in the NBA bylaws/CBA that prohibit a D-League team from signing their D-League players to contracts in such a way that it wouldn't be feasible for a player to opt out and join any other team in the NBA/or abroad/etc? Much like players who sign with foreign teams and then only get released if the foreign team feels it's in their best interest (like i believe JR Smith was released in China).
Not sure this issue has come up yet, but I see it happening sooner rather than later.
A team is restricted to having a maximum of 15 players under contract. As bajaden pointed out, the only players on our D-league team that we have control over are those from the Kings that are currently under contract (such as Hassan Whiteside was).
At the risk of causing more confusion intead of clarifying, when a player is signed to the D-League I believe he becomes an employee of the NBADL, not the team. That's why any other NBA team can call up (via contract) any player in the D-League who is not currently under contract with another NBA team. Thus, Whiteside could not have been called up by any other team...
You can find out more here
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That's more in line with what I was asking. The site you linked doesn't clarify one way or the other so I'll poke around a bit and try and find the answer to who the players belongs to, the D-League or the team owners. Pretty generous of the guys who run the team if they do indeed have no control over what happens to the guys on the roster.
Gonna try and find this out, haven't seen it discussed before. It very well could be that way now but wouldn't make much sense with talks of improving the dleague and using it as a farm system for the teams.
I think there has to be some first dibs going on for players on a dleague team. The only info I could find out is that if an NBA team waives someone during training camp it's affiliate gets the first shot(3max) on adding the player to their dleague team (unless another dleague team controls his rights from the previous year).
Zing!
Here's what Larry Coon says about the NBADL in his CBA FAQ's:
79. What is the NBA Developmental League (NBA D-League)?
The NBA Developmental League (also known as the NBA D-League or NBADL) is a separate league run in affiliation with the NBA. Teams may assign up to two of their players at any one time to an NBA D-League team. Only certain players can be assigned to an NBA D-League team:
Season(s) Players Number of assignments
2011-12 Players with 0-1 years' experience can be assigned at any time. Players with two or more years' experience can be assigned if both the player and the union consent. 3
2012-13 and later Players with 0-2 years' experience can be assigned at any time. Players with three or more years' experience can be assigned if both the player and the union consent. No limit
If an active player is assigned to the NBA D-League, he is automatically placed on his NBA team's Inactive List. There is no minimum or maximum length of an NBA D-League assignment, and players have 48 hours to report to the NBA D-League team once they are assigned. Players continue to receive their NBA salary while assigned to the NBA D-League, but their performance in NBA D-League games does not count toward NBA incentives.
NBA D-League rosters are normally 10 players, but can expand to 12 to accommodate assigned NBA players. In some cases where one team might be overstocked with assignees or players at a particular position, players might be reassigned to a different team. NBA teams do not control the playing time their assignees receive -- that is up to the discretion of the NBA D-League coaches.
Further information for the NBA D-League can be found on their website: http://www.nba.com/dleague
79. What is the NBA Developmental League (NBA D-League)?
The NBA Developmental League (also known as the NBA D-League or NBADL) is a separate league run in affiliation with the NBA. Teams may assign up to two of their players at any one time to an NBA D-League team. Only certain players can be assigned to an NBA D-League team:
Season(s) Players Number of assignments
2011-12 Players with 0-1 years' experience can be assigned at any time. Players with two or more years' experience can be assigned if both the player and the union consent. 3
2012-13 and later Players with 0-2 years' experience can be assigned at any time. Players with three or more years' experience can be assigned if both the player and the union consent. No limit
If an active player is assigned to the NBA D-League, he is automatically placed on his NBA team's Inactive List. There is no minimum or maximum length of an NBA D-League assignment, and players have 48 hours to report to the NBA D-League team once they are assigned. Players continue to receive their NBA salary while assigned to the NBA D-League, but their performance in NBA D-League games does not count toward NBA incentives.
NBA D-League rosters are normally 10 players, but can expand to 12 to accommodate assigned NBA players. In some cases where one team might be overstocked with assignees or players at a particular position, players might be reassigned to a different team. NBA teams do not control the playing time their assignees receive -- that is up to the discretion of the NBA D-League coaches.
Further information for the NBA D-League can be found on their website: http://www.nba.com/dleague
There's some pretty good info at Wiki. too:
Draft
See also: List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks
The NBA D-League Draft occurs each season and is the major source from which teams build their rosters. Team rosters are made up of returning players (players who were on the team during the previous season), allocated players (players who have local significance), and drafted players. The 8 round draft utilizes a "serpentine" format, meaning the order alternates in each round; Team A who selected first in Round 1 will select last in Round 2, while Team B who selected last in Round 1 will get the first pick in Round 2, et cetera.
Player allocations
Players for NBA D-League teams do not sign contracts with the individual teams, but with the league itself. D-League team rosters consist of a total of 12 players, 10 (or fewer) being D-League players and 2 (or more) NBA players. The rosters are made up in a number of ways: the previous years' players, players taken in the D-League draft, allocation players (meaning players who are assigned to a team with which they have a local connection, such as a University of Texas player being assigned to the Austin Toros), NBA team assignments, and local tryouts.
Each NBA team can assign two first or second year players to its affiliated D-League team. If more than two NBA players are assigned to a team, the team must reduce the number of D-League players to keep the total roster size to 12. An NBA player will continue to be paid his NBA salary and will continue to be included on his NBA team’s roster on the inactive list while playing in the D-League.[14] Each team also has local tryouts, and one player from the tryouts is assigned to the team.
The minimum age to play in the NBDL is 18,[15] unlike the NBA which requires players to be 19 years old and one year out of high school in order to sign an NBA contract or be eligible for the draft. The highest player ever to be assigned is Hasheem Thabeet, the second player selected in the 2009 NBA draft.
NBA teams can call up players as many times as they choose, and there is no limit to the number of times an NBA player with three years or less experience can be assigned to the D-League. Starting in 2011–12, veteran NBA players could be assigned with their consent.[16]
Draft
See also: List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks
The NBA D-League Draft occurs each season and is the major source from which teams build their rosters. Team rosters are made up of returning players (players who were on the team during the previous season), allocated players (players who have local significance), and drafted players. The 8 round draft utilizes a "serpentine" format, meaning the order alternates in each round; Team A who selected first in Round 1 will select last in Round 2, while Team B who selected last in Round 1 will get the first pick in Round 2, et cetera.
Player allocations
Players for NBA D-League teams do not sign contracts with the individual teams, but with the league itself. D-League team rosters consist of a total of 12 players, 10 (or fewer) being D-League players and 2 (or more) NBA players. The rosters are made up in a number of ways: the previous years' players, players taken in the D-League draft, allocation players (meaning players who are assigned to a team with which they have a local connection, such as a University of Texas player being assigned to the Austin Toros), NBA team assignments, and local tryouts.
Each NBA team can assign two first or second year players to its affiliated D-League team. If more than two NBA players are assigned to a team, the team must reduce the number of D-League players to keep the total roster size to 12. An NBA player will continue to be paid his NBA salary and will continue to be included on his NBA team’s roster on the inactive list while playing in the D-League.[14] Each team also has local tryouts, and one player from the tryouts is assigned to the team.
The minimum age to play in the NBDL is 18,[15] unlike the NBA which requires players to be 19 years old and one year out of high school in order to sign an NBA contract or be eligible for the draft. The highest player ever to be assigned is Hasheem Thabeet, the second player selected in the 2009 NBA draft.
NBA teams can call up players as many times as they choose, and there is no limit to the number of times an NBA player with three years or less experience can be assigned to the D-League. Starting in 2011–12, veteran NBA players could be assigned with their consent.[16]