Houston/NYK deal immanent

[DoDiGaG0]

Houston Sends: T-mac + 2 expiring scubs(cook and dorsey)

New York Sends: Jordan Hill, Jared Jefferies, Harrington or Hughes expirer + picks

geez, I guess NYK really really wants cap room..this would put them basically in a situation to get 2 max FA's..

good deal for houston..

source: Real GM

 

[kingsnation]

Great deal for both teams. I'm surprised to see Hill's name in there though. Cleveland better try hard to get Amare... because NY is set up for a nice little offer..

 

[Tetsujin]

Houston Sends: T-mac + 2 expiring scubs(cook and dorsey)

New York Sends: Jordan Hill, Jared Jefferies, Harrington or Hughes expirer + picks

geez, I guess NYK really really wants cap room..this would put them basically in a situation to get 2 max FA's..

good deal for houston..

source: Real GM

Apparently bad trade ideas aren't just limited to Isiah Thomas

 

[Heuge]

Knicks are going to get screwed in this summers free agency. I bet the end up settling for two max contracts that really arent max players.

 

[JJ22L]

Knicks are going to get screwed in this summers free agency. I bet the end up settling for two max contracts that really arent max players.

Or they end up with Wade and Lebron and Bosh decides to take a salary cut.

 

[Heuge]

Or they end up with Wade and Lebron and Bosh decides to take a salary cut.

More likely they end up with a 2 Boozer types.

 

[ParniValjak]

Knicks are going to get screwed in this summers free agency. I bet the end up settling for two max contracts that really arent max players.

Absolutely! They are not getting LeBron, Wade or Bosh. None of these guys is walking away from their current teams for less money. Even if NY want to do sign and trade for one or more of these players, they have nothing of value to trade.

They might get someone like JJ (but unlikely) but they could get someone like Boozer who no one else would drop a max on.

 

[gunks]

NYK trading Hill?

Haha....They shoulda drafted Curry or Jennings...

 

[est.1999]

The Knicks are a mess. Houston came up

 

[pdxKingsFan]

They wanted to draft Curry, he was picked 7th.

I think Hill came out too early but if he was coming that cheap would have liked to see us work a deal to take a flyer on him.

 

[Bibby10AZ]

hill and budinger will play together again

 

[Kingstime]

I could see NY landing Lebron and a guy like Boozer. Lebron would love the attention of the NY spotlight and all that brings, if they have the money regardless of the CBA situation for the next few years I believe Lebron would definately entertain a max offer from them.

As for that trade it really does nothing for either team. Houston should be looking alright next year though with a healthy Yao, they would have a nice logjam at 4 provided they re sign Scola.

 

[est.1999]

Do you honestly think a football god like Lebron needs to play in NY to get more of the spotlight? Jeez, this guy is already bigger than basketball, it doesn't matter where he plays.

 

[Merdiesel]

Knicks are going to get screwed in this summers free agency. I bet the end up settling for two max contracts that really arent max players.

Oh I hope so.. It'll be too funny when Lebron re-signs with the Cavs.

 

[Superman]

Do you honestly think a football god like Lebron needs to play in NY to get more of the spotlight? Jeez, this guy is already bigger than basketball, it doesn't matter where he plays.

For non-basketball endeavors, New York/LA/Miami are all better than Cleveland, that's for sure. And his Nike contract has an escalator clause in it if he plays in a major media market, which is what started all the New York talk in the first place. That started when he first came in the league, and really heated up when he signed his last extension.

 

[NoBonus]

Oh I hope so.. It'll be too funny when Lebron re-signs with the Cavs.

And Wade with the Heat...

 

[Capt. Factorial]

And his Nike contract has an escalator clause in it if he plays in a major media market, which is what started all the New York talk in the first place.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a stringent denial that the escalator clause exists.

 

[One and Done]

If I were New York, I'd only do this if I absolutely knew I was landing a quality Free Agent.

Also like this trade as Jordan Hill will finally get the minutes (that I think) he deserves...something's got to be going on behind the scenes as he doesn't look like the bust he's being treated as...

 

[=LarryLegend=]

I bet Joe Johnson goes to NYK.

 

[Superman]

I'm pretty sure I've seen a stringent denial that the escalator clause exists.

Really? I don't know that I've seen that. Could be PR. But from the beginning of his Nike deal, that clause was reported.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Really? I don't know that I've seen that. Could be PR. But from the beginning of his Nike deal, that clause was reported.

Here we go: CNBC Link

It's from a bit over a year ago, but the guy writing the article covered the signing in the first place, and as such should have the skinny.

Oddly enough, LeBron's original contract ends this summer, completely obviating the (apparently nonexistent) major-market kicker anyway.

That's not to say that LeBron might not get a bigger Nike (or other compnay?) deal this summer if he goes to a major market. I personally wouldn't expect that to amount to much, though - everybody in the world knows who LeBron is. At some point there's got to be diminishing returns for media saturation. The ad companies would know this better than I, but I imagine LeBron is already saturated no matter what market he's in.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I suspect the benefit may be calculated based on the effect on the local market more than any enhanced national exposure? I mean sure LeBron sells a lot of gear outside Cleveland but he carries more value in his home market. So if you expand that market from 2 million to 19 million, and then consider that NY is something of a tastemaker, there's obvious value.

 

[Superman]

Here we go: CNBC Link

It's from a bit over a year ago, but the guy writing the article covered the signing in the first place, and as such should have the skinny.

Oddly enough, LeBron's original contract ends this summer, completely obviating the (apparently nonexistent) major-market kicker anyway.

That's not to say that LeBron might not get a bigger Nike (or other compnay?) deal this summer if he goes to a major market. I personally wouldn't expect that to amount to much, though - everybody in the world knows who LeBron is. At some point there's got to be diminishing returns for media saturation. The ad companies would know this better than I, but I imagine LeBron is already saturated no matter what market he's in.

Good stuff. I thought the Nike deal was a ten year deal, but it expires after this season, so it wouldn't be in place when he signs with whoever he signs with anyways. That said, it apparently ended after his rookie year.

Even still, I don't think that LeBron playing in a major market affects his endorsements directly. It does impact his ability to do new business in media and such. If he wants to do a film with Spike Lee, he doesn't have to wait until his team goes to New York (like Kobe did). If he wants to meet with a clothing company about a new line, it's right there in New York. Or if he's in LA and wants to play a role in a film or do a cameo, he can do it on an off day, instead of in the offseason. There are huge benefits to being a big time media market if you're trying to branch out and make more money, make more connections.

And then, the trickle down (or up, in this case) is that, the more LeBron is doing, the more demographics he reaches, the more money Nike and everyone else can make off of him, assuming that means more shoe sales. Plus, there's a lot more Knicks fans than Cavs fans. And when a player changes teams or numbers, more people buy jerseys and other team apparel. Not that that goes into LeBron's pocket, but Nike would benefit for sure.