Here We Buy - 10,000+ and counting!!!

#34
The season ticket drive in Sacramento kinda reminds me of something in our history known as "The Telethon". Back in the late 70's a local TV station used a telethon to get enough season tickets sold to keep the team from moving...

Wikipedia said:
As a result of the steep price they paid to join the NBA, the Pacers were in a dire financial situation. It took a $100,000 contribution from a group of local businesses to keep the franchise going through June 1977. The team announced that unless season-ticket sales reached 8,000 by the end of July 1977, the club would be sold to someone who might take the franchise elsewhere. WTTV, which was the television flagship for Pacers' games at the time, offered to hold a 16.5 hour telethon to keep the team in Indiana. The telethon began on the night of July 3, 1977, and the next day, 10 minutes before the show was set to go off the air, it was announced that team officials had reached the 8,000-ticket goal. In part because of the telethon, the Pacers' average attendance jumped from 7,615 during the 1976–77 season to 10,982 during the 1977–78 season.
 
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Warhawk

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#35
The season ticket drive in Sacramento kinda reminds me of something in our history known as "The Telethon". Back in the late 70's a local TV station used a telethon to get enough season tickets sold to keep the team from moving...


Interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
 

VF21

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#36
The season ticket drive in Sacramento kinda reminds me of something in our history known as "The Telethon". Back in the late 70's a local TV station used a telethon to get enough season tickets sold to keep the team from moving...


There are so many similarities between our franchises and our fan bases.

I look forward to meeting you and some of the other PD members the next time you come to Sacramento for a Kings-Pacers matchup. :)
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#39
I don't know, but last year's can't be sold out from what I see on TV. Since Seattle claims 44,000+, it would look better for us to push to at least 20K.
Because trying to counteract a blatantly ridiculous pulled-from-the-bunghole number with another ridiculous number is going to somehow make a point? The top teams in the league draw around 10k season tickets a year. Thus our drive will probably have made more of an impact than Seattle's suggestion that more people want to buy Sonics season tickets than Seahawks tickets.
 
#40
Since Seattle claims 44,000+, it would look better for us to push to at least 20K.
Why? The Sonics couldn't even consistently sell out games during some of their glory years with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp. Anybody that actually believes they've got even half that 44K number -- in season tickets, mind you -- is a lemming.

Without even bothering to research, I'll bet the Seattle Seahawks -- the cities most popular sports team -- doesn't have 44K season ticket holders in a stadium that seats around 67K. But we are to believe the potentially 3rd or 4th most popular sports team in that city (behind the Hawks, Mariners and possibly UW) would have higher demand? Yeah, sure ... whatever.

BTW, does anybody actually know how their ticket request list was operated? Did they present tiered pricing options and contact info like herewebuy.com? Did they have an anti-spam/bot feature? I'll go out on a limb and predict that they didn't.

While I'm willing to concede that a lot of the nearly 11K in pledges herewebuy.com has generated won't actually ever purchase tickets, I'll guarantee that number is far closer to the truth that what Seattle is trying to sell.

Proof is in the history of the franchises. Seattle doesn't have an attendance history in which to support that kind of ticket demand whereas Sacramento's history easily supports their 11K season ticket number.
 
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Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
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Why? The Sonics couldn't even consistently sell out games during some of their glory years with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp. Anybody that actually believes they've got even half that 44K number -- in season tickets, mind you -- is a lemming.

Without even bothering to research, I'll bet the Seattle Seahawks -- the cities most popular sports team -- doesn't have 44K season ticket holders in a stadium that seats around 67K. But we are to believe the potentially 3rd or 4th most popular sports team in that city (behind the Hawks, Mariners and possibly UW) would have higher demand? Yeah, sure ... whatever.

BTW, does anybody actually know how their ticket request list was operated? Did they present tiered pricing options and contact info like herewebuy.com? Did they have an anti-spam/bot feature? I'll go out on a limb and predict that they didn't.

While I'm willing to concede that a lot of the nearly 11K in pledges herewebuy.com has generated won't actually ever purchase tickets, I'll guarantee that number is far closer to the truth that what Seattle is trying to sell.

Proof is in the history of the franchises. Seattle doesn't have an attendance history in which to support that kind of ticket demand whereas Sacramento's history easily supports their 11K season ticket number.
All you had to do was just input your email and they asked you whether or not you were interested in Sonics tickets. For all I know, the no votes may have been included in the "inquiries" number.
 
#42
Because trying to counteract a blatantly ridiculous pulled-from-the-bunghole number with another ridiculous number is going to somehow make a point? The top teams in the league draw around 10k season tickets a year. Thus our drive will probably have made more of an impact than Seattle's suggestion that more people want to buy Sonics season tickets than Seahawks tickets.

No.

If you read my original post like Glenn, you would know that I made that suggestion before the 44K from Seattle new came out. The reason you always go beyond the 10K goal is because there are always a lot of people who signs up for such no obligation list don't have to money to pay when the time comes. I know that, Glenn knows that, a lot of people who have been in the real world knows that and obviously the NBA knows that. 10K+ people on a list like this doesn't carry much weight really because many of them may not convert into a real purchaser for the season tickets.

If the list grows to 20K, it gives room for the deadbeats to get crossed off and still show a strong support. My follow up post to Glenn referring to the 44K from Seattle is just an example and extra motivation of why you ALWAYS need to exceed the number on these types of list. The NBA know not all 44K people will actually buy.
 
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#43
The Seattle site just asked if they were interested in buying tickets, not season tickets, as far as I could see. One Seattle fan also bragged about signing up 20 times, so no apparent controls for duplicates.