Grades vs. Sonics 11/20

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Bricklayer said:
Bonzi's shots are already considerably down from where they have been over his career per minute, and considerably less than they were the last time he was a full time starter. He's already sacrificing -- 11.9 is not many shots for a starter. The problem isn't Bonzi, its the general structure of the team. Asking ANY of those 5 starters to magically transform him or herself into a non-shooting roleplayer is just not going to work. Its just not who they are.

Bonzi's game thus far has been somewhat different than I recall it. Last time he was a major player he was really a nasty postup guard who could get on unstoppable hot streaks from the blocks against just about anyone shorter than 6'8". For us thus far he's really been more of a scrappy power guard collecting all the garbage and battling around the rim. Game seems less structured, and less brilliant. Cannot be sure because my memory may just be selective, but it makes me wonder if he hasn't already significantly altered his game according to our needs.
I am apparently incapable of an original thought. In that regard, I think you are absolutely right. Bonzi has become my favorite King because he is doing everything he can to make the team better. I am confident that Adelman knows it also.
 
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VF21 said:
It's not about the coach "forcing them" to do anything. It's about the team finding their OWN rhythm. They're actually making great strides in that direction, with both Reef and Miller getting 8 assists last night. That is important for the Kings' style of play.
Well, that's fine and dandy that they are doing things for the Kings "style of play"... but that's the misnomer.

It's NOT the "King's" style of play. As you like to point out, the Kings has been here longer than the players and will be here long after. Just as the triangle doesn't define the Chicago Bulls, the Princeton offense should not define the Kings.

To match up with the OLD KINGS' style of play, 8 assists is great. But, why are we trying to recreate something ... rather than letting the players be what they are?

And again I have to wonder just how much Kings basketball you've watched over the years. Our most successful teams have been those that found ways to exploit weaknesses each and every night. That doesn't mean hard-fast rules about who will always take the most shots. It varies, and when done correctly, it is extremely successful.
Webber 90% of the time led the Kings in shots taken. Peja was a close second.

This isn't a small variance either ... Webber was up at 18-20 shots per game and Peja was up near 17.

That's FEEDING two players.

There aren't that many shots left over.

If you, as an opposing coach, have to worry about whether Miller - or Peja - or SAR - or Bibby - or Bonzi - needs to be double-teamed, you're going to have a lot of problems...and someone on the Kings is going to end up open.
Theoretically, except that it is never that easy in reality.

No one is going to double team Peja. No one is going to double team Bibby. No one is going to double team Brad Miller. For the most part, no one is going to double Bonzi.

Why? Because, for 90% of their plays, they are outside players. You can't double outside threats easily, if at all. This is why T-Mac rarely faces any real double teams. It's just impossible to double team a guy at the 3 point line.

You need to get players into the flow. That's why a superstar is valuable. It isn't just that they are superstars, but it is that they are being fed the ball ... and they WILL produce.

You don't have to be a legit superstar either. Part of being a superstar is being a part of a system that requires you to step up (ie. Rip Hamilton right now in Detroit).

Last night, if we came out of the locker room and fed the strong post until we got back in rythm ... rather than running the Princeton offense for the first 10 plays ... we win that game.

Missed jumpers lead to missed jumpers.
 
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VF21 said:
So how much Kings basketball DID you watch back in the glory days?
To be honest - not much.

I got to watch them beat down the Grizzlies and Hawks a bunch. But other than that, not too much.

But, that doesn't mean I don't know what the Princeton offense is or know that the offense cycled around certain players. One doesn't have to watch religiously to know what it entailed.
 

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playmaker0017 said:
To be honest - not much.

I got to watch them beat down the Grizzlies and Hawks a bunch. But other than that, not too much.

But, that doesn't mean I don't know what the Princeton offense is or know that the offense cycled around certain players. One doesn't have to watch religiously to know what it entailed.
Yeah, okay...
 
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