[Grades] Grades v. Warriors 10/29/2014

[Kingston Jamaica]

My friend basketball IQ is real and should be involved when putting a team together. Basketball IQ is basically knowing your game and knowing other people game. Example josh smith/Gay taking 3s or long 2s with 20seconds on the shot clock. VS Parsons/Iggy you never see them take those shots unless there open cause they know there own game. Another IQ is knowing when to shoot when not to shoot. Example Westbrook/Irving will pull up a shot without looking for there teammates or not running the offense. Paul/Parker will run the offense first only time they force to score is when they see the team needs it. Another way to easily spot low IQ is the other night when a poor shooter Gay has an elite shooter who is 2-2 Nik open for 3 what does Gay do shoot the 3 and say my bad later. You know who else would have done that ( JR Smith, Westbrook, J.Smith and Melo). You know who would have past it ( Bron, Parsons, Batumn, and even the Spash Brothers would pass it) what do the 2 groups have on common?
Basketball IQ separates Carmelo and Lebron, cp3 and westbrook.
Seriously melo is just as talented as lebron but then you add on the IQ factor and you get lebron knowing he has to get his teammates going and playing defense vs melo thinking I have to out score this guy every time.

Let's say we replaced JT/Gay/Ben with high IQ players at the same talent or below
Collison/Ben/Gay/JT/Boogie VS
Collison/Nik/Batumn/Diaw/Boogie

I can put anything on the 2nd team winning a 7 game series cause that team will move the ball around and play like a team.

Oh and about Gay and team usa every other forum I'm in complained about him shooting every time he touched the ball and it's true some in here just had the king colored glasses on and scolded anyone who brought it up there were a few of us calling him out.

Really good analysis. I think the roots of this problem are in the league itself. The league wants to have stars that score 30-40 points a night, because that sells well. Then comes a team like Spurs to spoil it all. Small market low cost stars that play like the NY Philharmonics. There is one leader (Pop) who makes the game flow in perfect harmony. As you said, there are players who understand that like Bron, Parsons, Parker (not made up my mind on CP3 yet). That's why I see Cleveland and Dallas as the major challengers to the title. Players like Harden, Rose, Wall etc. will take their team far, but never to the ultimate goal. For that you need a team. By the way, Irving seems to buy into it now that Bron is there. Add to that mix another very high bbIQ player like Kevin Love, you got a real team there.

 

[Livinthedream]

Sometimes low basketball IQ plays are successful just based of sheer luck or talent of the player. Sometimes high basketball IQ plays aren't successful because of bad luck or some other circumstance.

I'm not picking on you, because I think many people using bbiq feel this way. But once you get to D1 basketball level and especially the the NBA level, being successful is not luck. I guarantee that at the height of my physical abilities I could be on an NBA court and know when and where to be on the floor. But in no way did I deserve to be on an NBA team. You have to understand basketball AND have undeniable talent and physical tools to stick. Coach Malone even told us that Ben is starting because he understands what the team is trying to do and is able to execute it better than Nik at this point. Nobody out there is accidentally making good plays. They know how to play. It's just harder to execute due to the physical pressure these gifted athletes put on you.

This is why Petrie brought in Pete Carrill to help teach his Princeton offense to his talented team rather signing up the Princeton players who already knew how to execute the plays and obviously are smart players who can shoot, pass and dribble. NBA players can be taught to run a system with repition and experience. Can't teach talent. Take away all Lebron knows, give him a basketball and say go score and due to his physical ability, he's still a dominant player.

There's no real stat for basketball IQ because a high basketball IQ play can be anything, really.

Then it is nothing, really. Tell us specifically what a player does or does not do well. I can pull up highlights of Ben running a pick and roll to perfection. Rotating o. Defense, making a great post feed, making the right pass. Show me his mistakes and is usually dribbling issues or rushed shot issues, not basketball awareness problems. Well...on defense he had awareness problems last year, but that has been cleaned up with time and experience.