[Grades] Grades v. Warriors 03/27/2013

26-46, 10 to play. What will our final record be?

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  • 28-54

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  • 29-53

    Votes: 6 19.4%
  • 30-52

    Votes: 12 38.7%
  • 31-51

    Votes: 7 22.6%
  • 32-50

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  • 33-49

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  • 35-47

    Votes: 1 3.2%

  • Total voters
    31
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Missed FTs by the bucketful, comically bad crunchtime execution, off games by our two best players, one of whom was completely forgotten about on the bench in the 4th and may be strangling the coach even as I type this, and yet we still win. We win with surprising defensive hustle, by continuing to own the Warriors backcourt in remarkable fashion, and of course by IT having himself a shooting half straight out of the John Salmons vs. New Orleans handbook, dropping 7 threes on the Warriors in about 15 minutes as we got control of the game and hung on. Hopefully Vivek doesn't hold it against us and withdraw his bid.

Highlights:

Two Legged Grading Consortium for tonight:
Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial


Boxscore



Stats: 32min 9pts (3-9, 1-3, 2-3) 6reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Salmons ( B ) -- Salmons started the game with a four-point play, and it turned out that he put out 45% of his scoring output in the first 20 seconds of the contest. He managed five assists, but still had a pretty non-descript night on offense. Salmons is more valuable to us on defense, though, and tonight that's where he did his best work. He allowed only 2 points tonight on 8 shots - and perhaps the more remarkable thing is that he played good enough off-ball defense that his charges only got off 8 shots on the night. This came despite the fact that he was often forced to cover ground he shouldn't have to - in the late third he bothered Jarrett Jack into two missed threes where he was forced to cover both the corner shooter and the man at the high elbow (25 feet apart) because MT23 decided he had to triple-team in the paint. Salmons didn't play down the stretch, with Smart opting to put Tyreke at the 3 and Douglas on Curry, but he had a pretty nice contribution tonight anyway. --Capt.

Stats: 23min 9pts (4-10, 0-0, 1-2) 9reb 1ast 1stl 1blk 1TO
Thompson ( B- ) -- started the game off in such ridiculously hot fashion that a mere 9pt 9reb night is a sincere disappointment. Had 8 of his 9 points within the first 5 minutes of the game as we came out with a gameplan that really exposed how the worm has turned for Andrew Bogut. Bogut, whom I always thought had gotten vastly overrated at one point but nonetheless carried the big defensive reputation with him, actually became our target, as we repeatedly went right at him with JT, or at least JT's jumper, and scored on three straight trips with that. But the Warriors called a timeout...and did not seem to change anything themselves, they just let our coach/brilliant team think it over during the timeout and decide to never go back to it again. And so JT faded into the background rarely to be heard from again with Patterson and Hayes both making nice contributiuons themselves. One nice thing to see was that JT had several very strong/aggressive rebounds this game. For whatever reason his boardwork has fallen off this year, and its precisely that sort of aggression moving toward the ball and snatching it which has too often been lacking. Tonight he had it and was effective on the glass. --Brick

Stats: 23min 14pts (7-15, 0-0, 0-4) 6reb 0ast 2stl 0blk 5TO
Cousins ( C- ) -- just did not look comfortable out there as the Warriors somehow did their mojo thing on him again. He had a couple of spectacular dunks on the move off of nice passes from his guards, but for the most part stuggled to finish inside as he reverted to his off balance, falling down, low percentage throw it at the hoop and pray stuff, and looked intimidated by Bogut in there. Even missed 4 straight FTs. More oddly he had a series of seriously unforced turnovers whihc looked like either he or the intended passing targets, who were not always obvious, were runnign entirely different plays. These were miss you by 5 feet sort of passes, like he expected somebody to have moved to a certain spot, they did not, and he threw it anyway. Despite seemingly being out of rhythm, was working his way into decent productivity when a series of mistakes, and especially fouls, prematurely ended his night in the third. Got himself into foul trouble, and then somewhat dubiously ended up over on the bench watching the entire rest of the game. Still finished as our second leading scorer in only half a game, but he really wasn't going well so much as just very involved during his minutes, for better or worse. --Brick

Stats: 34min 12pts (4-12, 1-4, 3-4) 3reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Evans ( C+ ) -- Tyreke came in with an off night after dealing with a stomach issue that took him out of the game on Sunday night. There was a suggestion that he might not have his legs under him , and he was definitely having trouble on his layups, missing three of his first four. He only drove to the basket once in the entire second half, getting blocked by Bogut on that play. With his drive not working (and his jumper only OK) on the offensive end he focused more on moving the ball. He had one of the best passes of the game, sneaking it through a double-team to an open Cuz in the lane for a dunk, and Tyreke finished with 5 assists on 12 setup shots. He had a few good defensive plays, including a backcourt steal from David Lee, but had his own share of lapses on the defensive end, once going for a steal and taking himself out of the play and tending strongly to slump off of his man. Fortunately for 'Reke, Klay Thompson had such a terrible night that those mistakes didn't hurt us, and the Warriors scored 14 points on 15 shots against him, which is pretty good. In the end, I don't think 12 points on 4-12 shooting is a C+ game for Tyreke, but given that he was sick, and given his ball distribution tonight, I'm giving him a bit of a pass. --Capt.

Stats: 35min 31pts (10-18, 7-12, 4-6) 3reb 7ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Thomas ( A ) -- IT led off the game with assists on the first four Kings baskets and set up the first five shots overall. That rate went down precipitously after the game opened, with Thomas setting up only four more shots the rest of the half, and notably failing to develop a shot for the team in the final 16 seconds before the buzzer. In the third, he only set up two shots and in the fourth he didn't set any up, but if you watched the game you know there's kind of a reason for that. In the second half, IT scored 25 of his 31 points, including 17 in the third quarter on 5-6 from deep. Did he get a bit shot-happy in the late third and early fourth? Yeah, he did. It included a desperation three-point shot fighting a double team and the clock, and a missed hero-ball layup immediately after he came off the bench from his rest in the fourth. But despite that, his scoring was brilliant - 31 points on 21 shots gets it done. Defensively, we know what IT is going to give us, and as expected he wasn't really up to the task of staying in front of Curry. Still, Curry had a terrible game just like Klay Thompson, going 1-9 in the first half and finishing the game at 5-18 from the floor. IT himself only allowed 7 points on 11 shots if you ignore some of the late-game "alternate defensive strategy" which is really a coaching thing so it's hard to fault the players for it. However, Curry did have 12 assists on the night and a lot of those setups were done after getting around IT on a screen or a drive. But whatever his defensive deficiencies, IT's passing gave us a good lead (that we squandered) early and his shooting in the second half won us this game, so the D gets a pass. --Capt.
 
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Bench

Stats: 28min 13pts (6-13, 1-7, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Thornton ( C ) -- hit his first three on one of those tough 1 on 1 contested shots he hoists up that are patently bad shots...until he makes them. Missed his next two though as he continued to press. Had his most effective stretch fo the game in the 2nd quarter as kind of the designated offense for an otherwise defensively minded bench crew (+Reke), and notbably was attacking the rim very fast and hard. When he returned in the second half had neither a role nor a purpose with IT doing all the bombing. And when Marcus did get up a shot of his own, he missed evrything from outside. Ended up being pulled for the stretch run for IT while Douglas stayed on for his intense defense against Curry. Did not look happy about it. --Brick

Stats: 27min 6pts (3-8, 0-1, 0-0) 9reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Patterson ( B- ) -- one of his least effective offensive outings, but one of his most effective on the glass, and on defense where he helped a crew that surprisingly looked almsot competent and organized for chunks of the night...well, except when it came to defending the pick and roll, which we just don't do. Worked especially well with chuck, as the two realtively hoary old heads from Houston didn't dazzle wiht talent, but did with solid....right up until it mattered most. Mr. Solid was earning the late minutes, playing to the end making good decisions and being a + guy for us...and then twice in the final 3 minutes or so he made terrible turnoves. Once on a pass up top I think that was inteneded for Reke and just not even close, and then once in the final minute on one of those inexcusable late game plays that have plagued us for years, as the Warriors ha gone to the intetional foul game and Pat Pat panicked when he got the ball, apparently did nto want to shoot those free throws, and tried to touch pass it back to a suprised Tony Douglas, in heavy Warriros traffic, under our own hoop. Duh. It was still another solid night from a guy who's had few bad ones, but those kind of late mistakes are how young teams like ours consitently snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. --Brick

Stats: 23min 6pts (3-3, 0-0, 0-0) 7reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( B ) -- mysteriously back in place of Aldrich, likely in another of Smart's no hurt feelings platoons -- after Smart gets fired in a few weeks he should go teach kindergarden and hold back the bright kids so the slower ones don't feel bad. Chuck never particualrly stopped anyone on defense, and Bogut in particular looked perfectly comfortable against him throwing up ugly little push shots over his head. But overall he played a very solid game, makign very few mistakes, working well this time with our defensive minded units, as he and Patterson nin aprticular seemed to really be makign an impact this time with their rotations. Rebounded well enough, and despite the Warriors seemingly sitting on those backdoor passes to cutters, made good decisions and avoided turning the ball over. He wasn't great, but just very solid, and that was enough for Smart to leave him on the court in place of DeMarcus down the stretch.--Brick

Stats: 16min 5pts (1-2, 1-1, 2-2) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Douglas ( B- ) -- Douglas didn't play a lot tonight, and he didn't score a lot, and his stint in the second quarter was more or less forgettable, the most notable play being a trip on Curry that wasn't called and resulted in a turnover to the Kings. The fourth quarter was more important, but just as the clock was becoming our friend, Douglas gave us a bit of a scare by turning the ball over twice in consecutive possessions. But after that he really turned his defense up a notch, just wearing Steph Curry and bringing the ball pressure that didn't give the Warriors a chance to mount that looming comeback. Douglas' top-notch D was probably only on display for about 3-4 minutes tonight, but they were the 3-4 minutes when the Warriors needed to score most. --Capt.
 
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Miami Heat just had 27 game win streak broken tonight which is more wins than Kings have so far this season at 26. Yeah, the Kings will win a few more games like fun one tonight but for me considering everything else going on, with so much on the line in less than a week in NYC my focus is mostly elsewhere.
 
were are all the it haters at tonight?

Still don't think he should be a starter but he played well when the team needed a spark. He still freezes out teammates to get his own, but can't complain about the results. He was hot at the right time.
 
I used to notice quite a few typos in your write-ups and wondered how that happened... now we get a quick glimpse behind the curtain. During the game you dictate to your pet monkey who bangs randomly on the keyboard. I must say that makes me even more amazed at the grades.

;)

OMG! Brickie has somehow lured Bozo into his evil lair!
 
when do we ever get a top 3 pick? unless stern rigs it for us like they did with the hornets, cavs and bulls, and rockets. one can only hope!

Don't fret, this year's draft is almost as bad as the year the Kings draft "Nervous" Pervous Ellison with the first pick in the draft. So this just might be our year.
 
wanted to be optimistic and say that we might go 5-5, just to stick it to Bill Simmons, who laughed at Vegas having the Kings over-under line before the season at 30 wins, then I looked at the schedule. two more wins sounds about right.
 
IT is great. The issue is he runs hot and cold and shouldnt be starting full time. I look forward to our ability to bring himself and MT off the bench in the future
 
Here's the thing with IT - for the most part he was simply hitting open 3s created off of penetration by other guys. He was not dominating the ball when Cousins and Evans were on the floor. When they went out, he then took on that 6th man scorer role (essentially) and was just going 1 on 1 and pulling up for shots and making them. I have no problem with that, because Chuck Hayes can get frozen out of the offense for all I care. He had one play with the bench lineup where he didn't pass the ball at all and took a shot. He missed it, and on almost every possession after that he ran the offense, moving it to Hayes, to Salmons etc and still scoring when he got good looks. That's how we need him to play. There's more to basketball than just making your own shots, and especially as a PG you have to make sure others stay involved in the game, even if it's just handing them the ball to get it back. There is not a single basketball player in the world that wants to go 5 minutes on the court without touching the ball.

So, good game by IT. This is how I wish he played every single game.
 
Blah, blah blah. The Kings won against a playoff team away. Maybe they did some things right. How about mentioning those?

The Kings have sped up their offense over the last two months. They play with more urgency. That has helped their transition defense a lot. They can play some hustling double team defense late in games now. There is much less standing around on offense. Several players have regained confidence in their shooting from outside.
They have only one glariing weakness which is their softness inside, partly because cousins blocks a shot about every 3 games. Basketball is a team game and Smart has a bunch of guys playing together for a change.
 
A team based on streaky shooters will ultimately be streaky. If everyone is on, then yes, we will outscore the opposition. If they aren't hitting open shots, it's going to be ugly. That's what we've seen lately. A team built from the inside out will be more sustainable in the long run. Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait on that.
I'll take the win, because the kids earned it, in spite of coaching.
 
wanted to be optimistic and say that we might go 5-5, just to stick it to Bill Simmons, who laughed at Vegas having the Kings over-under line before the season at 30 wins, then I looked at the schedule. two more wins sounds about right.

Yeah I seem to agree with you as well. I only see us winning 2 games. I pray for more. At best, we will go 4-6, but I predict 2-8.

With regards to the game last night. IT was da man! That one three he hit after sizing up the defense and stepping into the shot was exactly the type of thing we need from our best offensive player. With that shot, he definitely showed flashes of MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and all of the other great shooters to ever grace an NBA court...
 
I'd really love to see us get to 30 wins. After 4 straight years of 25 or less wins, I think surpassing that 30 win mark is an important step for us; especially if we keep a majority of the core around.

The problem is, we only have 2 games left against teams that are not a Western Conference powerhouse or fighting for a playoff spot. 4 wins will be very tough to get
 
A team based on streaky shooters will ultimately be streaky. If everyone is on, then yes, we will outscore the opposition. If they aren't hitting open shots, it's going to be ugly. That's what we've seen lately. A team built from the inside out will be more sustainable in the long run. Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait on that.
I'll take the win, because the kids earned it, in spite of coaching.

Yup.
 
A team based on streaky shooters will ultimately be streaky. If everyone is on, then yes, we will outscore the opposition. If they aren't hitting open shots, it's going to be ugly. That's what we've seen lately. A team built from the inside out will be more sustainable in the long run. Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait on that.
I'll take the win, because the kids earned it, in spite of coaching.

Well, there are a lot of teams that are doing quite well, despite not being built from the inside out (on offense). Miami and OKC are just two examples, and they may be the two top teams in the league. It's tough, though, when you don't have a defensive interior. That seems to be the rub.
 
Well, there are a lot of teams that are doing quite well, despite not being built from the inside out (on offense). Miami and OKC are just two examples, and they may be the two top teams in the league. It's tough, though, when you don't have a defensive interior. That seems to be the rub.

both lebron james and dwayne wade achieve the bulk of their scoring from the inside...
 
Well, there are a lot of teams that are doing quite well, despite not being built from the inside out (on offense). Miami and OKC are just two examples, and they may be the two top teams in the league. It's tough, though, when you don't have a defensive interior. That seems to be the rub.

That's the thing. Likely, the main thing.

While both Miami and OKC have good guard/wing play, they let the guys on the inside do the dirty work. And as noted, their scorers bring it inside with success. We do have a dominant inside presence offensively, which is something they don't really have, so that's a plus.

Ultimately, I don't think we're that far away. Addition by subtraction (coaching, chuckers), and a player to do some dirty work will get us there.
 
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Well, there are a lot of teams that are doing quite well, despite not being built from the inside out (on offense). Miami and OKC are just two examples, and they may be the two top teams in the league. It's tough, though, when you don't have a defensive interior. That seems to be the rub.

OKC is the only one that even remotely qualifies, and they have Westbrook.

The key is scoring from the inside on offense, where you don't go cold, you draw fouls, and the rebounds are short, within range for your team, and not kicking long to trigger opposing fastbreaks and scrambling your defense.

What has happend in the last couple of decades is that people realized (and rules have helped) to make the same old paradigm relevant in a new way -- used to be you had to have the great big man to control that middle. But Jordan and the many who have come since have shwon you can also do it with elite slashing smaller players who get to the rim rather than just start there. That's Miami. Also Westbrook. Rose.

And that's also a major reason why I consistently beat back hordes of foolish people with their anti-Reke and Cousins diatribes. Those two players' offensive games fit PRECISELY into the interior offense paradigm. Its very rare to get a player with elite potential in that regard, let alone two. Let alone one on the perimeter and one on the inside so that they don't naturally clash. They remain to this day the young duo with the most potential in the league. Steph Curry will never lead his team to a title. Not if he plays for 100 years. DeMarcus Cousins one day might.
 
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