Grades v. Sonics 02/01

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Bricklayer

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Barnes ( A ) -- was a little confused as to exactly what Matt did wrong to land himself on the bench for much of the third and fourth quarter, but while he was in it was hustle hustle and hustle. Hit the glass, really motored around on defense. Also made some nice passes, only a few of which were actually converted by the recipients. Rick mysteriously benched him in the mid-third, and he didn't get back onto the floor until the final minutes, when Rick put him in as an undersized PF. :eek: Matt did well though in the role, grabbed a couple of tough boards and made a steal down the stretch.
Songaila ( B+ ) -- offense came in bursts for Darius, as did overall effectiveness. Started out the game getting his behind handed to him on the glass, but was solid therafter. 19 pts and 7rebs is a nice night for a fill in starter, but there were long stretches where he was invisible and he really never got dirty inside with the Sonics' bad boy duo (both a good and a bad thing). We tried to switch him over on Rashard Lewis occasionally to keep him from posting our smaller guards, and predicatbaly that didn't go so well.
Miller ( D+) -- not the way to celebrate your player of the week award. Passed well, and did a nice job on the glass in the first half. But was offensively irrelevant, didn't grab a single board after half, and once again, as in the earlier game in Seattle, the Seattle thugs got under his skin. A series of bad calls and chippy play in the third effectively took Brad out of the game, he got his traditional stupid technical, and he was on the bench or irrelevant therafter. No Webb, no Peja, no Bobby, no Mo, and basically no Brad after halftime = bye-bye game.
Mobley ( D+ ) -- ugly offensive game for Cat. Didn't look physically right and alternated between forcing up bad shots himself where he didn't even look for his teammates, and making shaking decisions when he did. He was oout there, but not really out there. Just a body wearing his jersey. Hit a couple of layups in the final desperate seconds, otherwise basically a 12pt effort on 3-13 shooting. Actually did a respectable job against Rashard Lewis on the defensive blocks, but was unable to make key stops against the much bigger player late. Not a good game, and on a night without our two studs we couldn't have that.
Bibby ( B ) -- this one never looked easy for Mike, but he came on strong down the stretch when we needed him. Started off the game forcing too many shots -- ball movement just wasn't there early. And got into major foul trouble against the penetration of Ridnour and Flip Murray -- one of those nights where his lateral movement looked suspect. Went to the bench in the early third after picking up some dumb fouls, and watched as Eddie House came in and gave us a real lift in his absence. Returned in the 4th to try to pull it out for us, but just could not find enough help. All you need to know is his main wingmen turned out to be Michael Bradley and Eddie House. :eek:
House ( A- ) -- and so Eddie finally earns his stripes for the Kings. On a night when we realy felt the absence of the big guns, Eddie stepped forward and gave us an offensive shot in the arm. Played some in the first half, then took over for Mike when he got into foul trouble in the third, and never left the floor again. Final stats say he hit less than 50% of his shots, but it didn't feel like it at times. We were actually looking for him nearly every time down the floor there in one stretch. Competed well on defense although to modest effect.
Martin ( D+ ) -- ok, now that I have gotten a better look at that jumper, force the drive Kevin force the drive! :p Well, today he did look at the hoop, and he did take the open jumper (although you could see he wasn't really comfortable doing so), but the results weren't very good. Even his first career three pointer came after he hesitated and took a giant step off to his right where apparently he was more comfortable from that range. Missed 4 more therafter, so it reamins an opne question whether he's really got that range or not. Can see a couple of problems -- basically uses a set shot (odd for a guy with hops) so maybe not enough lift for an NBA three? Also could maybe see why he hmisses the occasional free throw -- lot of movement when he brings the ball up above his head (so says the guywho's missed out on more than a few pickup games by missing the free throw to get in). Competed in other aspects, but the Sonics seemed too physical for him.
Ostertag ( B- ) -- was not quite sure what Tag did to deserve no minutes in the second half, but the Bradley experiment worked out so only so much you can complain. Basically was the only King other than Bradley to get in there and start really banging with the twin thugs and keep his cool doing so. Grabbed a couple of good strong boards. Also blew another layup -- may be 7'2" but fits right in with us there.
Bradley ( A- ) -- if you told me before the game that down the stretch we'd come, powered by the twin engines of Eddie House and Michael Bradley I would have had you arrested and thrown into a nice little white padded room. But there it was. Rick made a mysterious coaching maneuver in the third quarter with Brad in foul trouble and melting down, and Tag having competed well in the first half, Rick goes to his bench for Miller and come up with... Big Bad Michael Bradley! And then even more shockingly, the kid comes through big time! Hit shots, made passes, defended well, laid a flagrant foul on Danny Fortson, and fought on the boards. It was a good enough stint that when we pulled him at the 9 minute mark fo the 4th, I was actually wondering whether we could pull it out without him. :eek: Not perfect -- fumbled a couple of baords in front of the equally hustling Nick Collison, made some TOs. But certainly as much as anyone could expect to get out of M.B.
Daniels ( INC ) -- just a single minute in the first half.

Adelman ( B ) -- this was an ugly game for us. How the heck we got to 100 points is beyond me. Brad was bad. Mobley worse. But Rick went to the very end of the bench and came up with reinforcements in the form of Eddie House and Michael Bradley of all people. Rick made a couple of eye-opening coaching moves that...well, not the way I would have gone. First, in the third quarter the Sonics went twin thug on us, threw both Fortson and Evans out on the floor, frustrated Brad and took him out of the game. So logically you go to Tag right? Biggest guy on outr team and the one guy who had shown an ability to stand in there against the TTs? NO! Instead you decide to rech down to the very end of the bench for the guy who sucked on Sunday, Michael Bradley. Huh? But then of course Bradley plays great ball and Rick I'm sure is sitting over there going "knew it all the time". More likely explanation is that offensive minded as he is, he simply could not see himself putting in a non-offensive player when we were struggling on that end. Alternately, he may have fallen into the matchup fallacy. Anyway, odd move. And then after discovering House as a key offensive weapon, Rick again opens your eyes by going three guards against the Sonics, who just happen to have a 6'10" postup SF. There the excuse is probably a way to keep his two main guns in the backcourt on the floor while still keeping the hot House out there. But in the process, he sacrificed Matt Barnes who was only perhaps our best hustling hard nosed performer of the night. Then finally, with the ineffective Miller fouling out in the final four minutes, does he come back with Bradley? Maybe the ice cold Tag? No, he confronts the Sonics with Matt Barnes at PF and Darius at center. Small ball. Likely Rick's great matchup fallacy once again -- the Sonics had shooters, and so of course we react to them rather than the other way around. But again, Barnes comes in and does well (although we lost a couple of critical boards it was not his fault) and partially justifies the move. Now, in the end Rick is severely shorthanded, finds gems deep on the bench, has us in a position to win it with only two of our top 7 players on the court at the end of the game, and one of them hobbled. But he had me scrathing my head a lot.
 
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How does Miller not get an F. Possibly his worst game of the year. He may have had worse but not when we needed him this bad.
 
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Team (3):.. for taking way to many 3's. We don't even take those many 3's with one of the best long range shooters in the line up

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Peja (E): For his Euro style :)
Bobby (?)...are army fatigues "in" now?
Greg Anthony (P): for giving the Kings some props...;)
Webb (C): Really casual looking, should have just ditched the jacket
Arco ( B-): Was there, but not really there. Showed up late and left early :(
 

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ReinadelosReys said:
Team (3):.. for taking way to many 3's. We don't even take those many 3's with one of the best long range shooters in the line up

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Non basketball related

Peja (E): For his Euro style :)
Bobby (?)...are army fatigues "in" now?
Greg Anthony (P): for giving the Kings some props...;)
Webb (C): Really casual looking, should have just ditched the jacket
Arco ( B-): Was there, but not really there. Showed up late and left early :(
Uhm I hope you didn't spend alot of time coming up with that. :)
 
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Bricklayer said:
Martin ( D+ ) -- ok, now that I have gotten a better look at that jumper, force the drive Kevin force the drive! :p Well, today he did look at the hoop, and he did take the open jumper (although you could see he wasn't really comfortable doing so), but the results weren't very good. Even his first career three pointer came after he hesitated and took a giant step off to his right where apparently he was more comfortable from that range. Missed 4 more therafter, so it reamins an opne question whether he's really got that range or not. Can see a couple of problems -- basically uses a set shot (odd for a guy with hops) so maybe not enough lift for an NBA three? Also could maybe see why he hmisses the occasional free throw -- lot of movement when he brings the ball up above his head (so says the guywho's missed out on more than a few pickup games by missing the free throw to get in). Competed in other aspects, but the Sonics seemed too physical for him.
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I noticed this about Martin even in the games that he did well. His freethrows just doesnt seem to be very smooth ( I think the King's announcer comment on before as well). He shoot his jumpers in a set shot similar to Scot Pollard's way of shooting. He doesnt really jump when he shoot. Maybe his strenth is slashing.
 

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damn here i am joking about your grades and you give me props on my quote in your signature. How rude is that. I guess you get a free *** kissing now when you want it.
 
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kgrichwine said:
Wow, with all those A's and B's you'ld think the Kings won the game:confused:
The real problem was...who had the A's andf B's. Those guys wont win games for you if they are your only high grades. (Bibby not included)
 
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Entity said:
How does Miller not get an F. Possibly his worst game of the year. He may have had worse but not when we needed him this bad.
believe me...he's had worse games...:eek:

but as for Brads grade...Brick im absolutely FLOORED that he didn't get a D+ or worse from you...i don't even know what to say...it does almost seem like you mixed up Brad and Cuttino's grades...and i think IF IT WERE ME i might have given Mike a lower grade
 

Bricklayer

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Yep. Actually forgot to adjust his grade -- I start working on these things at the beginning of the 4th during timeouts, and my impression of Brad through three quarters was a C-. Forgot to readjust for his ineffective 4th. Half a grade down at least.
 
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Thanks for the "Adelman assessment" Brick, helps me to watch those things more closely...well, as closely as I can. Sometimes I re-watch the games and pick out others' observations on plays & players, etc. There's never an end to learning this game.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! Change House's grade for taking ill-advised shots at the end. A-???? Geez...

Really, it could have been much worse. Bibby was scrambling to make something happen with no one 'usual' on the floor, he did his best I think.

You're right about Songalia, I was being a Songy homer earlier. I really, really like his play and hope Adelman will use him more often. Bradly completely surprised and entertained, I didn't know he could shoot! These guys have not had much practice together, it'll be nice when everyone is all healthy.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Mobley ( D+ ) -- ugly offensive game for Cat. Didn't look physically right and alternated between forcing up bad shots himself where he didn't even look for his teammates, and making shaking decisions when he did. He was oout there, but not really out there. Just a body wearing his jersey. Hit a couple of layups in the final desperate seconds, otherwise basically a 12pt effort on 3-13 shooting. Actually did a respectable job against Rashard Lewis on the defensive blocks, but was unable to make key stops against the much bigger player late. Not a good game, and on a night without our two studs we couldn't have that.
In the Postgame show, Cat admitted he is also being bothered by a rib injury besides his groin injury(He said the injury was fom banging in with the big guys). Thats why he was holding his stomach and back. Said he wouldn't have played if Peja and Webb had played. But he wanted nobody to feel sorry for him cause hes a soldier and a soldier carries on..... Explains why he wasnt all there. I'd give Mobley a C+.






Oveall I agee with the grades.

Too many jumpes by the guys. Mobley was really the only one doing any penatating and that wasn't too much. Hope to see a better overall results tonight. Hopefully with Webb.
 
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Bricklayer

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piksi said:
I remember Pedja and CW getting a "F" for a kind of game Miller and Mobley had
Quite frankly, they are better. And expectations do factor in. But also not really true. The late points and respectable defense would have bumped even Peja into the Ds somewhere if he'd played Mobley's game. If Webb played Brad's game? Yeah, maybe. But then again Webb is a far more prolific player than Brad. Four points would be unheard of for him. Not for Brad unfortunately.
 
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I never comment on grades, as they are very subjective, but I will this time...

I can't really agree with House's "A-" - he forced and missed some critical shots with the game on the line during the last minutes of the 4th quarter. Had he made at least one of them, the King might have won.
 
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Jose said:
I never comment on grades, as they are very subjective, but I will this time...

I can't really agree with House's "A-" - he forced and missed some critical shots with the game on the line during the last minutes of the 4th quarter. Had he made at least one of them, the King might have won.
The bigger problem with House, in my opinion, was that he went for a few ill advised steals late in the game that left people open. But, grade-wise, I'd imagine its hard to fault someone for too much hustle.

Also, keeping Brick's expectation scale in mind, this was easily an A- outing for a player that some wished had been left wandering somewhere in Texas.
 
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Once again, a usually bench player lights us up and has a career night...never even heard of Ronald Murray..who was guarding this guy?
 
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Ronald "Flip" Murray...had a good year last year in Seattle...hasn't got AS much playing time this year...but he's definetly capable of scoring....and i thought that Flip started in place of Ray Allen last night?
 

Bricklayer

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Brewer16 said:
Once again, a usually bench player lights us up and has a career night...never even heard of Ronald Murray..who was guarding this guy?
Oh, Flip (his nickname) made quite name for himself at the beginning of last season by scoring 20ppg for a month while Ray Allen was out for the early season. Serious scorer. Just a selfish player who plays no defense or team game. Still a perfect guy for them to have just sitting around when Allen went down. Story of the game may actually have just been them having a better backup for Allen than we had for Peja/Webb.
 
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