[Grades] Grades v. Pistons 1/4/2015

The inaugral Golden Brick (TM) Award goes to:

  • Rudy Gay

    Votes: 15 53.6%
  • DeMarcus Cousins

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • Ben McLemore

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • Total voters
    28
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1


We're rolling now.

Somehow we lost this one despite dominating every aspect of play except offense, defense, rebounding, assist/turnover ratio, and hustle. We was robbed I tell ya. Have fun tommorrow Pete.


Boxscore

Stats: 36min 12pts (5-16, 0-3, 3-3) 5reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Gay ( D ) -- played 36 minutes on the night, and maybe all of 6 of them where it felt like he might get something going. Started off the game missing shots after getting in the lane, and the misses rarely let up afterwards. Had one nice pass to Ben inside, and it wasn't until the final seconds of the half when Cuz beat a double with a crosscourt pass that Rudy finally drove right, pulled up, and got his second bucket of the entire half. Started off the 3rd missing and missing, but finally had his one "burst", if you want to call it that, of semi-glory in the latter stages of the third after Cuz went to get a rest. Got a pindown and layup, knocked down two midrange jumpers, and for a few moments it was like we had a second weapon out there again. That guy never returned after resting for the early minutes of the 4th quarter though. When he came back in he forced a bad shot, then missed a three, and was not able to get it over Drummond with 2:30 to go and us dying. Just a real struggle, and while thankfully the Pistons have no SF to cause real problems back the other way, Rudy wasn't doing the other things very well either. Just every once in a while he'd pull up for a very professional shot, which he would often miss. So drab it wasn't even an F. D is for drab. --Brick

Stats: 23min 9pts (4-6, 0-0, 1-1) 7reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
Thompson ( B- ) -- with JT back this was a matchup of two of the biggest frontlines in the game and JT got off to a hot start to this one using his relative mobility as actually the smallest of the 4 starting bigs on the floor. But in an old storyline with Jason we forgot about him, and he forgot about his own success, and soon he was back to invisble and finally just out of the game. Some of his early successes actually came on shaky defensive plays where he let Monroe beat him to the rim, and then came over his back to smother him on tow separate occasions. Was very active, by Jason standards, on the other end. Blew an early chippee, but a minute later got a dunk +1, and after Cuz left hit a nice turnaround on the baseline, and ran the floor and took a Stauskas pass for another dunk. Finished the first quarter with 7pts 5reb, which is only a problem when you realize he finished the game with 9pts 7reb. Forgotten about for much of the 2nd quarter, and by the time he came back out to start the 3rd, Monroe was ready to turn the battle the other way. Kinda pulled the chair from under Monroe early in the 3rd, but the refs seemed to miss the resulting travel and called JT for the foul instead. Would be a sign of things to come, as aside from one long facing jumper Jason was blanked after half, and Monroe surged up toward his normal numbers (the two Detroit bigs combined for 29pts 25reb. JT left for the final time with 3min to go in the 3rd and the Pistons with a 6pt advantage. From that point on we would play smallball, or smallish ball with Williams and Landry next to Cuz. And from that point on we got outscored 40-27 in the final 15 minutes of the game. Good strategy.--Brick

Stats: 40min 18pts (5-17, 0-1, 8-11) 15reb 4ast 2stl 1blk 6TO
Cousins ( C- ) -- looked better in this one, and don't let the whiners convince you otherwise. That said, still did not look great, and of course the double whammy tonight was 1) he was going against Drummond/Monroe, the beefiest pair of frontcourt guys in the league (and BTW the weight he lost from the meningitis bout was never more obvious, those guys are flat thicker than him right now), and 2) only one of the two counters he uses to escape from big beefy interior guys was working. What buckets he did get on the night came from squaring guys up and using that unprecedented big man handle to blow by them to the hoop, but his jumper was completely off. Some of that was him still looking unsettled, there were rushed looking shots for no reason. But even when his feet were set he missed everything beyond 5 feet of the hoop, and they were maybe half his shots. When he did get inside it was a struggle to get it up over/through not only Drummond, but collapsing defenses and double teams. That got him to the line, in the early going in particular, but he was basically just throwing himself into packs of Pistons defenders to get there. What looked better was spurts and splashes of competitiveness and energetic rebounding and defense on Drummond. It wasn't always there, but on 2 or 3 occasions lasting several minutes apiece he would get very active and feisty, smother guys and aggressively get after the boards. He came out in the third, made a nice tip of an offensive board out to...forget who, but anyway, we scored on the play. Went back the other way and got a block, was very active...but just could not sustain. And at a certain point there may just be garden variety fatigue playing in. Was sick all last month, is down in weight, last game of a 4 game road trip, and played 40 minutes against the most physical frontline in the game. Continued piling up the boards, but I think only had 2 points in the 4th and with the Pistons swarming him inside began to settle for jumpers that just were not going to fall. Turnover up top at a critical time with 5min to go when he tried to pass it to Ben I think it was, it got deflected, he dove to try to save it, and Drummond scooped it up and raced the other way for a +1. Was hardly the turning point play it was made out to be. We were behind the whole game and poised to lose from the beginning. But everytime we cut it to 6points or so, the Pistons would score back, and that one hurt. Anyway, we got something for a while here. He led us in points, led the game in rebounds, had fits and spurts of energy. But the jumper was flat broke, and no matter the team's current situation against the Pistons a big guy isn't going to be able to do it alone against that frontline. You need to beat them at their weak PG/SG/SF positions, and we did not. --Brick

Stats: 40min 11pts (2-11, 0-6, 7-7) 0reb 4ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( D ) -- this was just flat poor. He played 40 minutes tonight, and 36min of them were completely empty. The largest problme of course was that he could not throw the ball int he ocean. He was 0-6 from three point land. 2-11 overall, and his first hit did not come until the final 4 minutes of the first half when Rudy found him underneath the hoop for a layup. That started him on a little spurt of his only effective play on the night. Well, effective offensive play. He got fouled two more times, once on a three, and hit FTs to give him 7 points int he final minutes. But he also did not cover Caldwell Pope in the corner for a wide open three, and then a few seconds later went the other way, got too aggressive, and fouled the 3pt shooter. So I'm not even sure during his lone little hot streak he won the minutes. Had a lot of fumbly ballhandling misadventures on the night, even when they didn't go into his own turnover column. Dropped it twice on one possession, leading to a forced shot by Collison against the clock. Fumbled a Cuz pass for a To that was credited to Cuz. Couldn't get into a shooting rhythm several times because he kept leaving the ball behind. Looked closer to last year's Ben handle than the new and improved version this year. Down the stretcfh got a few more FTs, but also got lit up by Meeks as well. In 40 minutes managed to add 0 rebounds as well. Who knows, Cuz looked tired, maybe Ben was too. Playing a lot of long minutes, and Nik not giving us many reasons to shorten them. Anyway, he scored some points at the line.--Brick

Stats: 28min 17pts (5-7, 2-2, 5-7) 6reb 3ast 3stl 0blk 3TO
Collison ( D+ ) -- I come home from work (Yes, on a weekend. I know, right?), have a nice early dinner out with the family, and then get subjected to this Kings performance. On the plus side, Collison was very efficient scoring the basketball. 17 points on 7 shots is pretty darn amazing. He got the rim whenever he wanted, and played his usual Collison game of being deferential on offense until he had an open look. The trouble was on defense. I can't really say that Brandon Jennings lit him up, because that would imply that Collison was even in Jennings' vicinity on any of these shots. Monroe and Drummond were just picking Collison to death all game long, and Collison kept going under the pick and leaving Jennings wide, wide open for shots. Now, Jennings will have nights where he hits everything, whether contested or not, but this was just him getting practice gym jumpers and knocking them down. So a performance that would have gotten Collison a B+ or A with some semblance of defense gets a D+ instead.--Hadlowe
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 20min 10pts (5-6, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
McCallum ( B- ) -- Ray had an efficient night from the field, largely from pushing the ball ahead of the Piston's transition defense and hitting some layups. He was also part of the late third quarter push that made it look like the Kings were going to make a game of things. He wasn't really getting lit up by Augustin when he was on the floor, and did a nice job of disrupting some of the Pistons' plays defensively. He was also part of some nice ball movement in the second unit, giving up the ball to Stauskas and Williams on occasion and letting them make plays in the halfcourt set. More performances like this will ease my mind a bit regarding our backup point guard and the bench unit in general (who still got killed defensively, but on the wings and not inside for once.) --Hadlowe

Stats: 23min 12pts (5-9, 0-2, 2-4) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Williams ( B ) -- hey, here's our thriving PDA pace star! Sure, we lose to lottery teams by 20 a night, but man, look at DWill go! And had his moments tonight, although not all of them strictly pace related. Basically the Pistons released their own Derrick Williams, and so now didn't have a really appropriate defensive matchup for him. So he was able to use his mobility to slash to the rim, got a dunk on the break, and generally provided more offensive energy than any other King. Note the term "offensive", as dWill came into the game with his normal attention to detail on the other end, keeping himself at a nice 8-10 foot distance from any opponent to assure that they got off shots at will. Added in 2 rebounds for another beautiful style over substance statline, but on a night when all the main guns but Collison were struggling on offense, DWill's scoring mattered. Now ask me if I think it can or should ever mater for a winning team.--Brick

Stats: 16min 3pts (1-2, 1-1, 0-0) 2reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Stauskas ( C ) -- still not there, although maybe this was a little better than normal? Of course that says something about the normal. Anyway, came into the game late int eh first and immediately notched a couple of low level assists to Jason to help JT to his 7pt start. then began the 2nd quarter with an aggressive drive right, but threw it off the side of the backboard. And got blown right by by Meeks for a dunk, which is not what Meeks is supposed to be able to do (pure 3pt shooter). Was kind of it until with 4:30 left in the game, and Nik mysteriously in there due to a combination of Ben sucking and dubious coaching, he hit a three after Cuz got surprised by a kickout pass from Rudy and swung it quickly. had no effect on the outcome, but at least it kept Nik from being bagedd again. --Brick

Stats: 14min 3pts (0-1, 0-0, 3-4) 3reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Landry ( C- ) --in to start the 2nd, involved in an important play early in the quarter as he drew the 3rd foul on Drummond, getting him out of Cuz's way. Unfortunately that was almost the only important play he made on a generally unproductive night. Let Tolliver have a three, tried to post him up, and threw up an airball. When he returned late in the 3rd too small to guard Monroe consistently. --Brick
 
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kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#10
looking at the month of January opponents...wow this is going to be a tough month to watch, I mean not that it isn't all ready I don't think we will see a team score under 100 versus Sacramento for a long while
 
#12
I don't understand how anyone in the front office could possibly keep their jobs after this. If Vivek believed what he said about winning more games under Corbin, I don't see how anyone survives the season. The firing made us a joke before people even knew how bad it would get. Now the team is boring and not competitive.

Unless this is the plan. Massive demoralizing losses to bad teams. If that's the case, then we are well on our way folks.

Here's your first question: With the destruction of team morale, effort and effectiveness so plainly clear to see, with several players going to the media plainly spelling out that fact, including Demarcus cousins, do you fear for your job?
 
#13
As bad as this sucks, this only amounts to added pressure for the FO, in particular PDA. This is the perfect setting now for tomorrow. 3/4 blowouts with the only win being against a horrible team that is just too young to be any good now.

I hope our two representatives let it RIP tomorrow because the message we have to send has to be clear. Stop effing around with our team. We are not lap dogs and we did not fight for our team to see it be sunk by the likes of this FO, who are trying to re-invent the NBA instead of going about it the old proven and traditional way.

Fix your damn mess otherwise that new shiny arena won't have anyone in it.
 
#16
We're giving up 111 points a game.

FO struck out with adding more liabilities such as dwill, and j smith (why not Monroe???).

Our star players are basically throwing the season away

Our owner doesn't know ish about pro basketball,(where tf is shaq with all this nonsense!?)

Our Gm thinks this is a nba 2k15 season played on rookie difficulty

It's looking like I'm gonna be following whatever team boogie is on when he is outta sac town Just like reke
 
#17
I don't understand how anyone in the front office could possibly keep their jobs after this. If Vivek believed what he said about winning more games under Corbin, I don't see how anyone survives the season. The firing made us a joke before people even knew how bad it would get. Now the team is boring and not competitive.

Unless this is the plan. Massive demoralizing losses to bad teams. If that's the case, then we are well on our way folks.

Here's your first question: With the destruction of team morale, effort and effectiveness so plainly clear to see, with several players going to the media plainly spelling out that fact, including Demarcus cousins, do you fear for your job?
tanking. part of the plan 4 steps ahead.

i looked at the crystal ball and it said we are in for a nellie ball treat next year.
 
#27
"@kfippin: Honestly, more than anything, Kings fans just don’t want to feel embarrassed.

Pride has been all we’ve had to hold on to for so long."

I think this is the issue for me. I'm embarrassed. I've always been proud of our fans. Been able to tell fans of other teams that they just don't get it. Been able to roll my eyes at the national media and call them clueless.

Right now.....I can't defend the organization. There is no sell out streak to point to or anything else that I can say, "At least we have this." I can't say, "It would be different without the Maloofs." There is nothing that I can argue in the Kings defense.
 
#28
im with you Livingthedream. As i said to Kfippin on twitter as a reply to that tweet; the pride is gone right now, we are the laughing stock of the league