[Grades] Grades v. Pelicans 4/3/2015

So...

  • He's good.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • He's great.

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • He's better than I thought.

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • He's even better than Jimmer!

    Votes: 10 27.8%
  • We're not worthy!

    Votes: 11 30.6%
  • I'm a worm, let me serve you Master!

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • *grovel* *grovel*

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • I want to have your love child Boogie!

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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There have been nine 20-20-10 games in modern NBA history (since 1985-86 when database is searchable).

We have just seen 2 of them back to back.

We have lost both games.

Boogie is averaging 29.0pts 20.7reb 8.3ast 1.7stl 4.3blk in his last three games...and we have lost them all. Reread that. That's not possible.

So here we are, first hand witnesses to the blooming of a legend, and oh so incredibly unworthy.

Here is the all time list of 20-20-10 games:

4/3/2015 Demarcus Cousins 24-20-13
4/1/2015 DeMarcus Cousins 24-21-10
4/2/2010 David Lee 37-20-10
1/28/2004 Kevin Garnett 20-20-10
11/23/1999 Chris Webber 26-22-10
12/27/1993 Larry Johnson 29-20-11
4/20/1990 Fat Lever 20-22-11
3/02/1988 Fat Lever 20-20-12
4/04/1986 Charles Barkley 27-22-10


Boxscore

Stats: 37min 17pts (7-9, 0-0, 3-6) 3reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Summary: well, tired hard, ran the floor and efficiently took Cuz passes, but nothing tonight.

Casspi ( B ) -- this was an odd one in a way for Omri. He again gave us enough points to be a mild salve for the missing Rudy, and he did it on far fewer shots than a primary weapon would take to get those points. The key to that is that most of his points came out in the open court, taking passes form Cuz especially, and working in around the rim. He never even attempted a three. Indeed seemed to intentionally avoid it on a couple of occasions. He attacked guys and got to the line, but missed his FTs. And he was at times smart in his attacks, as he was when he went right at Davis in the open court in the early 3rd perhaps knowing Davis had 3 fouls, and was able to get a layup right over him as A.D. could not afford to challenge. .And yet for all the efficiency in boxscore, the game at times still felt scrappy, scruffy and fugly with several near turnovers on passes and odd decisions on when to shoot, when to drive, who to pass to etc.. Part of it may have been the ridiculous first half shooting display put on by Quincy Pondexter, who hit 5 first half threes, all with Omri on the court and at least partly responsible for the decisions he made. But the thing was, after the first one, which was just a late halfhearted close, I couldn't be 100% sure Omri was messing up on the others. When Reke comes busting down the court, and Omri steps up to stop him from driving, at which point Reke whips it to the corner to Omri's man for a three...well... But it kept happening again and again, and Pondexter was Omri's man, and had 15pts against us in the first half alone just on those threes. And the other thing was that those other things Omri often adds, the rebounds, the asists, they weren't there tonight. The assists maybe because Cuz was the PG, and Omri was receiving not delivering. And generally that worked. In fact antoher raceout dunk on a full court Cuz pass got us within 2pts late in the game. And the rebounding...well we desperately could have used it but the Pelicans are so long inside that anything Cuz didn't grab they did. Still, the lack thereof stood out at times, and at a critical one in particular when with 1:40 to go Omri went inside and tried to grab a rebound that Cuz probably would have had himself, and instead fumbled it out of bounds to cost us a possession we desperately needed. It was 7 of 9, and several of them working well with Cuz (they seem to have a chameistry, and if Omri does want to come back as he says, it seems like a good idea) and completing his assists. And this is just our backup SF here. But magical as it is to have the big guy doing literally everything for us out there, a little help in other areas might have tipped this.

Stats: 16min 6pts (2-3, 0-0, 2-4) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Summary: well the boxscore will attest to the wonderful all around contributions, but did mostly stay with Davis.

Landry ( C ) -- Carl Landry is maybe 6'9", looks closer to 6'7", and when not scoring often plays like he's 6'5", and tonight we threw him out there against basically a twin towers set to guard Anthony Davis. And the funny thing was, it was the best thin he did on the night, by a lot. In the very early going he would hit 2 little assisted midrange jumpshots as a pressure release man. In the early 3rd he would twice get to the line, and twice split the pair. Against all the length he was completely pathetic on the boards. Assists are not in the vocabulary. But the one thing here which gave an anemic 6pt 1reb "start" a little value is that in general he became the latest King to do a good job on Anthony Davis. Obviously he's not long enough to remotely challenge A.D. up top, but he was just mobile enough to stay in front of him, which I think is the real key to bothering Davis. So despite very limited productivity of his own, and Boogie being out there absolutely alone on the glass, Carl's "production" came in A.D.'s lack thereof and inability to take over the game.

Stats: 42min 24pts (9-22, 0-1, 6-10) 20reb 13ast 1stl 4blk 5TO
Summary: ok, he's just getting silly now with back to back 20-20-10 games for the first time since the 60s.

Cousins ( A ) -- we're all witnesses now. funny hing was he didn't even really get off to that good a start. Mostly it was defense and passing early, including an electric full court chest pass to a streaking Omri. But guys were tipping boards away over him, and defensive breakdowns had him having to constantly have to run out to try to belatedly contest open corner threes for Pondexter. When he came back in he got a gift as the Pelicans decided, hey, we've been doing fine without that Ryan Anderson guy, let's sacrifice him! and threw him out there to guard Cuz, which resulted in a bang, bang, then split past Davis to the hoop. Meanwhile he was drawing multiple charges himself on the other end to make sure to round out his 20-20-10. Maybe got him too excited about the Anderson matchup as a few minutes later he made what was essentially a mental mistake and tried to drive past Anderson rather than bully him, and Anderson stepped in front for a charge. And was being forced/settling for too many turnaround on the baseline -- and there is actually one more spot to do the in prime game rounding thing with Boogie, and that's to develop those midrange post shots, the turnarounds and whatnot from 12-15 feet when the opponent builds a wall in there in front of him. Do that, and there is no answer. It wasn't until the third that we saw this one blossom from merely a potential triple double into another monster. And it was in basically every single way EXCEPT his own offense, which has been a little scruffy of late. The longer shots weren't falling, his FT shooting suddenly got shaky. But when he took over the game n the mid 3rd he took it over in spectacular fashion. piling up boards, assist after assist making all his guys look better, a big contest on Davis which actually got the 2 of them into a war of words. There was nothing more you could have asked of him other than hitting his damn FTs. What was frustrating was watching him hit such a peak, and be doing so much to get guys open shot after open shot, to have those guys hitting those layups and spots shots...and still to lose the game simply because of a lack of talent in the end. In a lot of ways that's why there have to be major changes next year. Your center is putting up historic lines every night, and you still lose. tehre's no realistic demand that can be made for Cuz to play at an even higher level, so not 100% of the improvement has to come from the rest of the roster. Cuz was merely being compared to Larry Bird (last guy to have back to back 20-15-10 triple doubles in 1985), but then in the final seconds he grabbed his 20th board, and so the comparison jumped to Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor in 1968 as the last 20-20-10 back to backs. So no problem. A once every half century feat.

Stats: 34min 17pts (7-15, 3-9, 0-0) 3reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Summary: basically came down to, if Cuz set him up, he hit it. If anybody else did, he did not. Some big misses late.

McLemore ( B- ) -- got an early three, not much else. Most of his non-scoring output came all at once in the early 2nd, when he pulled down a couple of good boards, and got an assist setting DWill up for a little oop. The rest of the game though it really was notable how much more Ben was getting out of working with Cuz than anybody else, either on Cuz kickouts for threes, or Cuz kick aheads on the break. Meanwhile Ben's defensive work on Eric Gordon was a mystery, as he got outscored on the night and when you watched how it happened...lack of conviction is I think how I would put it. Ben kept on wandering around in space, taking one step to help this way, half heartedly closing that way, and just getting vaguely caught too far away to challenge Gordon's shots or cut off his angles. Meanwhile after a couple of full speed runouts in the early 4th where the Pels did not get back, Ben looked like he might help us pull this out and finally win one for the big guy. Was not to be however. Ben quite hitting basically anything. Missed multiple threes down the stretch, and with 40 seconds to go missed a tough inside shot that helped finish us. As it was with Omri, and this is both a good and a bad, it felt tonight like most of what Ben did well flowed from Cousins' game. Take away that and you mostly had a bunch of missed threes and some vague defense. However with Sauce's moment apparently receding, we needed Ben out there as much as possible to at least be able to compete.

Stats: 35min 14pts (6-12, 2-3, 0-0) 4reb 3ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Summary: got utterly abused by Reke all night but since Dre could not guard anyone, he kept on having to face it.

McCallum ( C- ) -- after these last couple of games probably came home to find that Reke had moved in, changed the locks, and was having a candlelight dinner with his girlfriend. After not fighting back at all before the break, after half was one of the recipients of Boogie's largesse and in the third began to at least give us some scoring. He pressed the break when he could and notched a handful of assists there, but otherwise, Ray was a small second shooting guard, and Boogie was running the team as a point center. The problem was on the other end, where Reke has just battered Ray and completely stolen his mojo. Ray just hasn't been able to do anything there. Reke goes through him, Reke goes around him, and its worse even than the direct stats say, because time and again Reke blew into the lane, the defense collapses, the ball gets kicked and boom. And time and again Reke slashes in, and even if he misses the layup Cuz is out of position after the challenge, and other Pelicans clean up. And Ray just could not stop it, not in New Orleans, not here at home. On the other hand Dre has been made to look very old in both Pels games, and was even worse on defense, and so Ray it was. He gave us some points, there was a stretch where he was very much one of the racers and leakout guys during Boogie's big 2nd half push. But overall the guy he was trying to guard was the single biggest reason we lost this game.
 
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Bench

Stats: 22min 5pts (2-4, 1-2, 0-0) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Stauskas ( C- ) -- came in and well....Reke Havoc v. Sauce Castillo = a streak of Sauce smeared across the floor. You could tell Karl wanted out of that matchup as soon as physically possible. When he came back in took a three off a Cuz broken play for just about the solo highlight of his night. And missed another three in the final minute of the 3rd that would have given us the lead and Cuz his triple double by the end of the quarter. Unfortunately our bench problem seems to have reemerged, although perhaps some of that is because so many bench components are now starting.

Stats: 26min 10pts (3-7, 0-2, 4-5) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Williams ( C- ) -- there was some consistently dumb play here that initially you mistook for bravery. Came in and went right at Davis, but drew a foul. Didn't his threes, didn't rebound (how do you lose a rebounding battle despite having your C grab 20? Have DWill and Landry grab 2 combined in 42min for starters). Some out of control play in the 4th, but a full speed raceout saw him run over Douglas like a mack truck. Dumb forced fallaway with 1min to go helped kill us.

Stats: 13min 2pts (1-2, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Miller ( D ) -- made to look very old once more by these Pels. Simply does not have the quickness to get around Toney Douglas anymore who just attacks him like an old and sick animal. And did not show the quickness to stay around ether Douglas or Cole at the other end. He got an early assist to Ben after entering, but that was about the extent of the savvy floor leadership stuff, and despite his defensive struggle,s Ray got the bulk of the minutes this time.

Stats: 14min 0pts (0-4, 0-0, 0-0) 5reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
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I feel like I'm losing my damn mind with all these "YO FRONT OFFICE. MIGHT WANNA BUILD ROUND BOOGIE YA HEAR??" comments

Now this may just be me spit-ballin' here, but there's a slight talent downgrade when we go from DC and Gay to Ray and Landry. And that MAY have something to do with the losses.


Herculean Boogie efforts aside, I feel like the 4-9 guys (Ray, Nik, Ben, Casspi, etc) have done a pretty decent job stepping up. It' not their fault they aren't capable of being a 2-3 guy on a team. Its just not who they are as players
 
I feel like I'm losing my damn mind with all these "YO FRONT OFFICE. MIGHT WANNA BUILD ROUND BOOGIE YA HEAR??" comments

Now this may just be me spit-ballin' here, but there's a slight talent downgrade when we go from DC and Gay to Ray and Landry. And that MAY have something to do with the losses.


Herculean Boogie efforts aside, I feel like the 4-9 guys (Ray, Nik, Ben, Casspi, etc) have done a pretty decent job stepping up. It' not their fault they aren't capable of being a 2-3 guy on a team. Its just not who they are as players

That's probably fair. Against Asik/AD though, asking Landry to do anything of value really seems like a bad idea. I think an Evans/JT rotation would have been better, with DWill in when those two were off the floor.
Nitpicking for sure, but that was my thought.
 
Well its all on PDA to get the right personnel this off season! If he doesn't address the defensive woes of this team and also the lack of a bench then I will personally drive him to the airport and send his gerbilness to wherever he needs to go!

DMC isnt just reaching all-nba levels, he is approaching God tier levels! MOVE OVER WILT! DMC is here!
 
I feel like I'm losing my damn mind with all these "YO FRONT OFFICE. MIGHT WANNA BUILD ROUND BOOGIE YA HEAR??" comments

Now this may just be me spit-ballin' here, but there's a slight talent downgrade when we go from DC and Gay to Ray and Landry. And that MAY have something to do with the losses.


Herculean Boogie efforts aside, I feel like the 4-9 guys (Ray, Nik, Ben, Casspi, etc) have done a pretty decent job stepping up. It' not their fault they aren't capable of being a 2-3 guy on a team. Its just not who they are as players

This. People act like the roster is total trash outside of Cuz, but really it isn't THAT bad. Cuz, Rudy, DC is a good core. We just have too much youth. And crap big man depth.

We upgrade our PF and our SG rotation with two solid vets (I dont care how we get em), get a healthy Rudy and DC next season..... We are making the playoffs. Consistent coaching will be great as well, just look at the rapid growth of our offense. A summer with Karl will do wonders.....Defense still needs a lot of work, but shows flashes. We will see a different team next year even if we DONT have a lot of player turn over.

We dont need a splashy move, we just need 3-4 under the radar, solid moves.

Any youth development is a bonus. Extra bonus if we luck out and land a top 3 pick. Extra EXTRA bonus if we get top 2 (but that will never happen).
 
This. People act like the roster is total trash outside of Cuz, but really it isn't THAT bad. Cuz, Rudy, DC is a good core. We just have too much youth. And crap big man depth.

We upgrade our PF and our SG rotation with two solid vets (I dont care how we get em), get a healthy Rudy and DC next season..... We are making the playoffs. Consistent coaching will be great as well, just look at the rapid growth of our offense. A summer with Karl will do wonders.....Defense still needs a lot of work, but shows flashes. We will see a different team next year even if we DONT have a lot of player turn over.

We dont need a splashy move, we just need 3-4 under the radar, solid moves.

Any youth development is a bonus. Extra bonus if we luck out and land a top 3 pick. Extra EXTRA bonus if we get top 2 (but that will never happen).

I think we need to get the draft right and one or two Collison type moves in free agency. Maybe pick up one starter in free agency(Amir Johnson?) and one bench contributor, re sign Casspi, throw Derrick Williams off the ship.

If the off season goes like this, I would be ok.

- Draft WCS
- Sign Amir Johnson
-Re sign Omri Casspi
- Sign 3 and D vet type SG
- See if you can find a steal in the second round

I'm willing to give Ben one more year to show consistency, mainly beacause he is good defender already and he did improve this year. Just needs to become consistent.
 
Something was giving me De Ja Vu tonight and after thinking I finally figured it out. Tonights game reminded me of the Lakers post Shaq when it was Kobe in his prime with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm etc. as his teammates. I give Cuz credit because he is trying to get his scrubs going, Kobe basically gave his teammates the finger and tried to do everything on his own lol. So yeah, FO give this man a supporting cast!/ get healthy Rudy and DC.
 
Here is the all time list of 20-20-10 games:

4/3/2015 Demarcus Cousins 24-20-13
4/1/2015 DeMarcus Cousins 24-21-10
4/2/2010 David Lee 37-20-10
1/28/2004 Kevin Garnett 20-20-10
11/23/1999 Chris Webber 26-22-10
12/27/1993 Larry Johnson 29-20-11
4/20/1990 Fat Lever 20-22-11
3/02/1988 Fat Lever 20-20-12

4/04/1986 Charles Barkley 27-22-10

It may be hard to imagine since most Kings fans picture him as Gary Gerould's radio hypeman through most of the last five years but Fat Lever was once a walking triple-double before his knees went the way of the dinosaurs.

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Also, what the hell is David Lee doing on that list?
 
I knew he was great.

But, he's even better than I thought. And that's saying something.

He could be a top 10 all time player with the right organization/coach. He may even do so without.
 
Unfortunately, he's still stuck with the roster of his nightmares.
It only takes one off-season and 1-2 moves to change everything and you don't even need to trade for a star just 1-2 starting level players.
 
I think we need to get the draft right and one or two Collison type moves in free agency.
I think we have to give up on the gamble of the draft.

We need to trade that draft pick to someone needing new blood, and get a steady vet to plug one of the gaping holes this team has next year (starting SG or PF) - the Kings cannot expend one of their few valuable assets (the draft pick) and wait 2-3 years for it to return on-court benefits.
 
I think we have to give up on the gamble of the draft.

We need to trade that draft pick to someone needing new blood, and get a steady vet to plug one of the gaping holes this team has next year (starting SG or PF) - the Kings cannot expend one of their few valuable assets (the draft pick) and wait 2-3 years for it to return on-court benefits.

The thing is, there is a PF just waiting to be drafted 6th who may be the best guy to place next to Cousins and loves to play defense and doesn't overdo anything on offense. His initials may begin with W and end with S. He may play for Kentucky, and he may be a junior and is therefore more likely to be NBA-ready than many rookies in recent years. Oh and he'd be on a cheap rookie contract.
 
Any work outs that the rookies do DMC should be watching so he can give his stamp of approval. I'm all in for WCS. That's all we need. Unless by some grace of god we enter the top 3.
 
I think we have to give up on the gamble of the draft.

We need to trade that draft pick to someone needing new blood, and get a steady vet to plug one of the gaping holes this team has next year (starting SG or PF) - the Kings cannot expend one of their few valuable assets (the draft pick) and wait 2-3 years for it to return on-court benefits.

Why not do both?

If WCS, Winslow, or Johnson is available we need to keep the pick. Those guys all project to be immediate plus defenders at the next level. If one of them is just out of reach, I'd even advocate trading up.

Smart teams balance out the youth development on their roster with steady vets. We really only need one vet big and a vet guard to be competitive. Those could be had in FA or by shipping out one of Nik or Ben.

Picking back to back SGs was beyond stupid for numerous reasons. But that doesn't mean we should abandon the draft as a means to improve the roster, the FO (Vivek) just has to be smarter about it. There ARE prospects that could help us both short and long term.

Now, if we fall to 9 or 10 and the options are a bunch of raw kids who can't make an immediate impact.... Then by all means, trade the pick.
 
The thing is, there is a PF just waiting to be drafted 6th who may be the best guy to place next to Cousins and loves to play defense and doesn't overdo anything on offense. His initials may begin with W and end with S. He may play for Kentucky, and he may be a junior and is therefore more likely to be NBA-ready than many rookies in recent years. Oh and he'd be on a cheap rookie contract.

Sounds good but you are a beautiful dreamer. But I must admit that getting it right through the draft or through free agent pick is risky business. Neither is a shoe in. Hope one or the other or both work for us.
 
The thing is, there is a PF just waiting to be drafted 6th who may be the best guy to place next to Cousins and loves to play defense and doesn't overdo anything on offense. His initials may begin with W and end with S. He may play for Kentucky, and he may be a junior and is therefore more likely to be NBA-ready than many rookies in recent years. Oh and he'd be on a cheap rookie contract.
I will be pissed if we're 6th and some stupid team like Orlando drafted him 5th.

I think the top 4 is almost locked in some order. Russell, Mudiay, Towns, and Okafor. Unless a team like Orlando gets the 4th pick.. they'll probably pass on a guard.
 
Two things:

First, Tyreke was just ne assist away from a Triple Double last night.
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Second, Karl may have taken a big step towards being fired for not playing Sim.
 
Two things:

First, Tyreke was just ne assist away from a Triple Double last night.
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Second, Karl may have taken a big step towards being fired for not playing Sim.

George Karl will not be fired for trying to win a close game at home. There was no guarantee that Sim would play.
 
Two things:

First, Tyreke was just ne assist away from a Triple Double last night.
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Second, Karl may have taken a big step towards being fired for not playing Sim.

I can't believe the Sacramento Kings decided to put Sim Bhullar up against Anthony Davis on their Facebook page. This after Boogie put up historic numbers a couple nights before. Yeah, 10-day contract, first time Indian...
 
I can't believe the Sacramento Kings decided to put Sim Bhullar up against Anthony Davis on their Facebook page. This after Boogie put up historic numbers a couple nights before. Yeah, 10-day contract, first time Indian...

While things may be looking up in some areas of operations, I think they're taking a decided downturn in press and media relations. Some of their best people were summarily dismissed when Vivek bought the team. Others have also been let go. There are times when I think the whole press relations section has become all about marketing, and marketing only.

Having said that, I'm not at all concerned that the FB page featured Sim Bhullar.
 
I can't believe the Sacramento Kings decided to put Sim Bhullar up against Anthony Davis on their Facebook page. This after Boogie put up historic numbers a couple nights before. Yeah, 10-day contract, first time Indian...

Haha really? Oh Vivek....
 
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