[Grades] Grades v. Nuggets 1/26/2014

Best scrub of the night for you?

  • Williams

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Thompson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gray

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Thornton

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Thomas

    Votes: 11 28.9%
  • Outlaw

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • McLemore

    Votes: 20 52.6%

  • Total voters
    38
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Ok, not a whole bunch to say here. With Cousins and Gay out, we are back to Smart era gunner guards which is just *yawn*, sorry. And just like we have for years, our gunner guards get out, try to run with the Nuggets without discipline, the Nuggets, who do this professionally, then outscore us playing their game, and we lose. So easy story. Two things of note: 1) Ben finally had a game. Marcus was still pretty good too, but for Ben it might have been his best game of the season. he missed big shots down the stretch that we needed, but until that point he actually looked like a professional basketball player out there, on both ends of the floor. So that was a definite yay. Thing too was what looked to be a new passing series to turn our non-passing wings into creaters for their teammates by having them attack along the sides, draw doubles, and then hit the open men cutting to the rim. Ben and Outlaw made a number of good passes out of that sequence, and combined with nice passing from the Last of The Big Men in Aaron Gray, we got enough ball movement on the night.

Anyway, we lost kinda the way you'd expect we'd lose. Scored a lot. Gave up even more. Lots of smallball.

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Uncia03
Bajaden
Capt. Factorial
MassachusettsKingsFan


Boxscore

Stats: 31min 12pts (3-5, 0-0, 6-7) 8reb 0ast 2stl 1blk 2TO
Williams ( C+ ) -- This was sort of a mixed bag type game for Williams. I liked a lot of what I saw, but we just didn’t get enough out of him overall. He was having a rough game on both ends that included forced jumpers and lazy defense until Quincy Miller kind of embarrassed him on a poke-steal that finally woke him up. From this point on his defensive effort was much better, and he started hitting some of the tough shots he was missing earlier in the night. He also started to get to the line a lot as the Wilson Chandlers and Quincy Millers of the world couldn’t handle his size and strength inside, but the Kings never made a conscientious effort to feed him the ball down there. While his defensive and offensive effort varied throughout the game, he deserves some credit for his rebounding, which was solid throughout. I think it’s been pretty obvious since Williams was traded to Sacramento that he’s most effective either moving without the ball and cutting or on the block, and the Kings failed to ever really get him rolling tonight. And without Rudy Gay or DeMarcus Cousins, they really needed more out of Williams. It’s worth noting that late in the fourth quarter he was forced out of the game with some sort of cut and was replaced by Outlaw. He looked fine on the bench soon after, but Malone kept Outlaw in there instead. I don’t know if Malone ever gave an exact explanation of what happened there, but that’s what it looked like, and Outlaw was having the better game overall. --Mass

Stats: 28min 13pts (5-7, 0-0, 3-4) 10reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Thompson ( B+ ) -- Thompson started the game with two quick fouls, getting quickly yanked. He only logged about nine minutes in the entire first half and grabbed a grand total of one rebound and was well on his way to a dismal grade. But somehow the locker room turned things around and JT came out a new man in the second half. He grabbed three rebounds in the first two minutes of the third, and finished the game with a total of 10 - 9 in the second half. He was nicely efficient on offense, attempting 7 shots (all in the paint) and only missing one dunk (blocked by Mozgov) and a tip attempt in traffic. JT's unsung contribution on the night was his defense. Not only did he hold his man to practically nothing (3 points on 3 shots), but he also did a fantastic job on help. I counted 17 help opportunites for JT, and in those there were only three made shots and one set of free throws. JT forced four misses on help and made nine stops on the drive to force a pass out of the paint. So good D, good boards, good shooting...good grade. --Capt.

Stats: 25min 6pts (3-4, 0-0, 0-0) 8reb 5ast 2stl 0blk 3TO
Gray ( B ) -- Aaron Gray started for the 2nd time with Cousins out and did Aaron Gray sort of things. He got defensive rebounds, set nice screens, made the proper pass, stayed out of the way on offense and played passable defense. There was nothing extraordinary going on in this one. Just pretty solid play. He was better on the offensive end than the defensive one. He is the best screen-setter on the team, and he used those screens to free up the wing players for easier shots or easier lanes to the rim. He also made a number of ‘correct’ passes and in the process ended up with 5 assists, which tied a career high. (I went through the game logs and he had one other 5 assist game back on December 19, 2007…)On defense he got to match up with Faried, which really isn’t a good match-up for him because he doesn’t possess the quickness and athleticism to properly handle Faried, and he lacks the offensive skills to take advantage of Faried on the other end. So though he played decently on defense, Faried got the better of him in this match-up. But we didn’t lose this game because Gray was unable to contain Faried, so it wasn’t that big of a deal. On offense, he had a couple of scoring opportunities and he made the most of them, converting on 3 of the 4, and other than that, just used his big body to set screens to create for other players. --Uncia

Stats: 28min 19pts (8-13, 0-3, 3-3) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Thornton ( B+ ) -- if you notice dogs and cats singing Sound of Music tunes together on your way home from work today, don't be surprised, because this is now two nights in a row where the lowly SG grader may have gotten to give out the best grades of the lot. Early in the game MT scored in a variety of ways that showed that the talent is still there, but which unfortunately are going to be largely worthless to us once our top guys get back. Scored the first hoop on a MT special that you only see on bad teams as he dribbled, dribbled, crossed over, crossed over again..and unlike a Tyreke Evans who would have a layup by that point, he was still standing in the same spot on the floor and settled for a fallback midrange jumper, which he drained. After missing an open jumper, he then scored a tough tough +1 charging right into Mozgov's chest and finishing with strength through the center. Actually lost a good chunk of his first half minutes because Ben came off the bench and was so good himself -- again, this is kind of an unprecedented writeup for us this year. And when he finally did return, he and Ben actually played together for a spell. Started out the 3rd with bang bang hits that got us back tied in the game, but then was forgotten about as IT decided to gun. Not doing the other things as much this time out, which holds the grade back a bit. Largely just a scorer, but an efficient one again, and there most of the night. Hit another high skill shot with a pretty fake and finish in the early 4th, easily hit as jumper over Nate with 4:30 to go...but then in another bit of this-won't fly-in-the-long run, grabbed a good d-board, then raced down court and forced the 1 on 4 hero drive into the teeth of heavy traffic for what was basically a bonehead turnover. Better was a play with 1:30 to go where we used him as a decoy, and he did a nice job drawing 2 guys off a pick, and slipping it to the open JT for a dunk to cut the lead to 5 with 1:30 to go. This wasn't 42 points, but it reinforced the point that Marcus Thornton the 18-20ppg scorer is still on this team, he just can't function as his style of 18-20ppg scorer (run n' gun undisciplined 1st/2nd option) as an afterthought alongside a more disciplined post attack. These injuries might give us a better chance to trade him though if teams take note the talent is still there.( --Brick

Stats: 36min 22pts (7-21, 1-6, 7-8) 5reb 8ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Thomas ( D+ ) -- thought about C- on this one, but I just couldn't, in good faith, give a better grade to a player that dominated the ball as much as he did, and accomplished so little. He may have appeared to have been an active and contributing factor in the game, but it was all smoke and mirrors. Because when you look at the results, they don't add up to the image that was presented. Yes, he scored 22 points, but it took him 21 shots to accomplish that. He only made 7 of those shots. By my math that's a 33% clip. Now you can say that every player has a bad shooting night, and I would agree. If it was my SG, or my SF that had that kind of night, I would just chalk it up to one of those nights, but were talking about Thomas our PG here, and that position comes with other responsibilities. He started the game very well, and I remember thinking at the time that this is the kind of play I want from him. He ran a pick and roll with Gray resulting in Gray scoring a layup. He followed with a full court pass to a streaking Thornton who laid it in. He then made a beautiful pass as he crossed halfcourt to JT right under the basket for another easy bucket. We're just a minute and a half into the game, and he's already logged 3 asssists. Then it started to go downhill. He followed with a lazy pass to Thornton that was picked off. On the next possession he had a mismatch with Chandler guarding him. But Chandler did a nice job of staying in front of IT and and forced him into a tough shot that missed. After making a floater, and then a very tough 16 foot jumper over two defenders, he led a 3 on 1 break with one trailer and Outlaw to his right with two defenders between him and the basket. I remember the Nuggets announcer saying, "He won't give it up and everybody knows it", or something very close to that. And of course he was right! IT tried to spit both defenders when he had an easy basket in Outlaw right there. Now it would be easy to look at Thomas counterpart in the game and decide how good a job he did defensively, but it actually wouldn't be quite fair. Although Lawson scored 27 points on 9 of 15 shooting, he wasn't being guarded by Thomas all that time. There were some good moments for IT against Lawson, who is one of the quickest guards in the NBA. I thought IT worked hard at times, and then other times, like in the second half, when Lawson was crossing halfcourt, he suddenly blew by Thomas and headed for the basket for a layup. Thomas was caught flatfooted, but then just stood there and watched as though he had bought a ticket. At times, he has this tendency to become a spectator when he gets beat. Now I know it sounds like I'm being overly hard on Thomas. If, I thought he was playing to his abilities, I would be more lenient, but IT is capable of being much better. Offensively IT has had moments of brilliance with his creativity. He's like the Dr Jeckell/Mr. Hyde of PG's. Unfortunately, Mr. Hyde seems to be the dominate personality. Too bad, because Dr. Jeckell is one smart dude!--Baja
 
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Bench

Stats: 15min 4pts (2-3, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Acy ( D ) -- I’ve been hard on Acy when grading him due to his lack of rebounding. I think part of the problem is when Malone plays him at Center he’s usually at such a disadvantage that it’s hard for him to secure those boards. This game was no exception. When he came in, he had to guard Mosgov, who is just such a bigger body than him. Acy normally brings energy, hustle, and defensive intensity when he comes to play. Unfortunately in this one, all he brought was a lack of size. He only secured a single rebound, which came in the 4th quarter, and he was pretty ineffective at stopping any of the Nuggets that he was guarding. It seemed that Mosgov and Faried both had little difficulty scoring while Acy was checking them. Acy wasn’t much part of the offensive scheme, but in two instances he was thrown the ball and took it on himself to create a basket. He was successful in his first attempt, with a really nice step-through to free himself of Mosgov with a lay-up. His 2nd attempt in the 2nd half rolled off the rim. But by-and-large, he didn’t do much on offense, and with the lack of rebounding, and the inability to stop Mosgov and Faried at the rim, it isn’t surprising that he only got 15 minutes of playing time, as he was just ineffective out there. --Uncia

Stats: 19min 6pts (1-4, 0-0, 4-4) 2reb 0ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Landry ( F ) -- I flirted with a D- on this one. Landry had, by all accounts, a lousy game. 1-4 shooting, only two rebounds in 19 minutes, and some pretty lackluster defense. Not only did he allow 11 points on only 7 shots, but his help defense was really not that good. He had 12 help opportunities and completely failed to help twice, once notably looking the other way as Mozgov lumbered down the lane for a dunk in the fourth when the game was still in reach. But the signature play of the night for Landry was his fast break dunk attempt, which he clanked so hard that the ball shot up and broke a rafter. Hopefully the Kings won't take that out of his salary. Even if it is, Landry can rest easy knowing that he didn't get a missed field goal on it, because he was called for offensive interference instead. Can't give a guy who does nothing and clanks a dunk like that a D-. Good F, Carl. Good F.--Capt.

Stats: 29min 18pts (6-12, 2-4, 4-6) 3reb 3ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( A- ) -- may have played the best game of his rookie season here, but it started off again as more of the same headslapping stuff as he came in the game and immediately lost a man on defense off a pick, then threw q terrible backcourt pass that was picked off for a Nuggets layup. But this time he neither spiraled nor disappeared from that point and settled in to one of his most comfortable looking offensive nights of the season. Notable was a passing sequence we were using with both he and Outlaw especially, which had him slashing along the wings and dumping it into bigs inside when the help defense came. He picked up 3 assists with that play, and could have had several more. In the early going just how far his reputation has sunk amongst NBA scouts was obvious as the Nuggets had 5'9" Nate Robinson guarding him, figuring I suppose that he couldn't score if you locked him in a gym by himself. But this time he punished them for that presumption, drove inside and easily shot over IT's little mentor. On a called play in the early 2nd out of the timeout, he got open and drained a straight on three, and he even got a Tyreke assist, driving, drawing no fewer than 4 Nuggets on defense, and having the forgotten JT clean up the miss with a weakside dunk. He was still getting lost on defense at times, got beat too easily on a curl, did that same season long silly step toward the middle and give my guy an open three thing, but that too would look better as this game wore on. Played so well he logged significant minutes at SF as he and Thornton stayed on the court together. Actually began to get into and stay with guys on the perimeter on defense, and guarded everybody from Nate (so Jimmer would not have to) to Wilson Chandler (did a nice job). After returning hit a big three at the top of the three point circle to bail us out of a bad possession with a minute to go in the third, but sputtered a bit down the stretch. Missed a big three for us with 5min to go, recovered to hit an open one off a curl at the 3min mark, but missed he biggees in the final minute. Forced and missed a panicky shot with 2min to go, and on the one you have to hit, got his number called by the coach in a rare sign of trust with 1min to go on another timeout play that got him an open three, and just flat missed it with us down 6 and desperately needing a hit to stay in it. Not a perfect night by any means, but for maybe the first time this season if you swapped his jersey and could not see his face you would have thought he was a perfectly competent NBA SG. Not just a guy with pretty form on his jumper, but somebody who played a fairly complete game. The handle looked better. The defense looked better. Until the game got tight he was moving well and taking shots with confidence. Just looked like grown up Ben for the night. --Brick

Stats: 17min 10pts (4-7, 0-1, 2-2) 2reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Outlaw ( B+ ) -- Travis Outlaw was really one of the better Kings tonight. When Outlaw is playing well it’s usually because his shot is on. Well, tonight his shot was on, but he also displayed an oddly effective run of shot creation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Outlaw pass this well, and he was doing it consistently, but especially in the fourth quarter. On back-to-back possessions he found Quincy Acy wide open under the basket for a dunk, and then Jimmer Fredette wide open in the corner for 3. When I woke up and checked the box score and noticed Outlaw was only credited for 2 assists I was pretty shocked, as it felt like he had a few more sprinkled in there. I know he had one other really nice pass as part of a great out of bounds play drawn up by Malone that found McLemore wide open for 3 that he missed, but it was another good example of how Outlaw was seeing the floor tonight. It wasn’t a completely perfect performance, though. His defense was still shaky, but he gave the Kings a real lift off the bench tonight. --Mass

Stats: 11min 7pts (3-5, 1-2, 0-0) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Fredette ( C ) -- Jimmer only played 11 minutes. He didn't do anything outstanding, and really didn't do anything that was horrible. He shot the ball well, but only took 5 shots, making 3 of them. He made a couple of nice plays that resulted in a couple of assists. He turned the ball over on one occasion when he drove to his left and was tripped. (no call) He also blew a fast break, but to be fair, the spacing was terrible, and he threw up a wild looking prayer of a shot that would have been completed only by the intervention of God. Jimmer seems to be trying to find the fine line between scoring and passing in the short time he has on the floor. Defensively, he actually had a couple of good moments despite having to guard a player 5 inches taller at times. In short, nothing to rave about, nothing to cry about. --Baja

Stats: 1min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McCallum ( INC ) -- just in for one defensive play to close the 3rd when we didn't trust Jimmer to be able to stay in front of little Nate Robinson. On the switch on Fournier, largely did his job and stayed in front of his man, although picked up the foul in the process so they scored anyway.--Brick
 
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Any progress out of ben in a game with our two stars out is a plus for me. Although a game like this also highlights the negatives of IT.
 
Any progress out of ben in a game with our two stars out is a plus for me. Although a game like this also highlights the negatives of IT.

This is a very net positive. I am not the FO but I know what I want done with IT. Ben is the one with the question mark hovering over his head.
 
Any progress out of ben in a game with our two stars out is a plus for me. Although a game like this also highlights the negatives of IT.
Ben missed an important 3 in crunch time, and I think in one of our earlier games, he missed a few open shots in crunch time as well. Aside from that, I'm still unsure of him. He had a pretty good overall game with 3asts 3rebs 2stls and 1to. He was 4-6 from the line, but that'll improve over time. He also played good D tonight...bout our best defender was Ray McCallum...
 
#IT was really bad 2night, just poor shot selection and I have not looked at the assists numbers but don't need to, to know his passing was very sub standard
#MT back to back good games as our MVP made some slick moves and passes impressive
#Mclemore best game as a pro maybe showed something
#Williams couple nice post ups and passes needs to be more aggressive pushing the ball when he gets a rebound he's the best on the team at it, I rather him push it to give it up to Thomas or anyone other than Gay in a full court situation.
#Gray started off well but the passing was dreadful
#JT did ok.....down game for him but after his recent nice stretch
#Jimmer dreadful that 4 on 1 miss summed up his night
#Outlaw was our best playmaker 2night not sure how to feel about that good for Travis not a good sign for the team but.

The fact we were competitive again without Cuz/Gay while putting up a poor defensive effort is still a good thing imo.
 
Ben missed an important 3 in crunch time, and I think in one of our earlier games, he missed a few open shots in crunch time as well. Aside from that, I'm still unsure of him. He had a pretty good overall game with 3asts 3rebs 2stls and 1to. He was 4-6 from the line, but that'll improve over time. He also played good D tonight...bout our best defender was Ray McCallum...
When it was free flowing game with little pressure, Ben was making the shots. Later in the game he rushed his shots. Guy couldn't dribble in the summer and looked lost on defense - he's progressing fine.
 
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This is a very net positive. I am not the FO but I know what I want done with IT. Ben is the one with the question mark hovering over his head.

I honestly am fine with IT if we have a defensive guard like Kirk Hienrich behind him. That's gotta be PDA's next move is to fix the defensive problems with our frontcourt.
 
When it was free flowing game with little pressure, Ben was making the shots. Later in the game he rushed his shots. Guy couldn't dribble in the summer and look lost on defense - he's progressing fine.
I think he needs a few more years developing. I think he's doing pretty good for a rookie. He tries to contribute in many ways and doesn't demand the ball. It's all on player development.
 
I think he needs a few more years developing. I think he's doing pretty good for a rookie. He tries to contribute in many ways and doesn't demand the ball. It's all on player development.
To become third option? Sure. He's going to be inconsistent for a while, needs to get stronger, but judging by his progression he'll deserve 25 minutes on a team fighting for PO.
 
Terrible night for IT, we need Cuz and Gay back asap to reign him in. Also a serviceable backup PG wouldn't hurt. Jimmer is not a PG, just a great shooter with good basketball IQ. Andre Miller would help this team a lot. Best part of the game was seeing McCallum defend for 20 seconds, he should really just get thrown in there to see what he can do in meaningful minutes. McLemore showed signs of what he could be, he actually has good defensive principles, just makes rookie mistakes. Hopefully some team has been watching these last 2 games from Thornton.
 
To become third option? Sure. He's going to be inconsistent for a while, needs to get stronger, but judging by his progression he'll deserve 25 minutes on a team fighting for PO.

Which progression would that be I wonder?

Best game of his season, but his progression has kind of been bad --> bad --> worse ---> awful to date. Be nice if he can turn that around and these extra/minutes shots are as good an opportunity to do so as he's going to get, but unless we change something, as I've mentioned repeatedly it won't matter if we go forward with Cousins, Gay and IT. We could have Kobe in his prime in the SG spot at that point and he'd average 9ppg.
 
I wonder how anyone could progress with IT in the back court. It took Jimmer into his 3rd year to have his shot fall.

Anyway, I was just idly wondering what IT thinks about when he looks at the box score. Does he have an aha! moment, shrug it off, or what? Does he learn? The stats in this game sure told me something but then I am not fighting for my professional basketball career.
 
I wonder how anyone could progress with IT in the back court. It took Jimmer into his 3rd year to have his shot fall.

Anyway, I was just idly wondering what IT thinks about when he looks at the box score. Does he have an aha! moment, shrug it off, or what? Does he learn? The stats in this game sure told me something but then I am not fighting for my professional basketball career.

IT is a problem, but Ben has sucked with him or without, starting or on the bench, next to IT, Greivis, or Jimmer.

And the longterm starting lineup issue is more a combo of IT/Gay/Cuz altogether sucking up more shots than any other trio in the league. With just IT alone there is room, as we've seen these last few days, for fellow guards to join him in ducking and chucking. When we have our frontcourt back along with IT...SG is no longer a relevant position for us. just throw out somebody, anybody, who can slow down the other team's SG and that's all that's expected.
 
Which progression would that be I wonder?
Best game of his season, but his progression has kind of been bad --> bad --> worse ---> awful to date. Be nice if he can turn that around and these extra/minutes shots are as good an opportunity to do so as he's going to get, but unless we change something, as I've mentioned repeatedly it won't matter if we go forward with Cousins, Gay and IT. We could have Kobe in his prime in the SG spot at that point and he'd average 9ppg.
Dribbling and defense, two things he looked awful at only few weeks ago, were respectable today. IT might very well be a big part of future plans, but I'm not sure he is or will be after a few more displays like today.
 
IT leading the poll? Gray with two votes? I must've watched an entirely different game then. anyway, it's Thornton for me. never stopped producing, never made any glaring mistakes, demonstrated his value if given opportunity. hopefully other teams are watching this closely.

otherwise just a nauseating game. nobody played any defence, the whole offence was just basically chucking stuff up at the rim or leaking out in transition. can't wait for the return of Cuz and Gay, and the return of some half court basketball.
 
Two guys shot less than 50% last night, we scored 117, and we lost.

Anyone still think we'd struggle with scoring if we traded a certain black hole?
 
IT leading the poll? Gray with two votes? I must've watched an entirely different game then. anyway, it's Thornton for me. never stopped producing, never made any glaring mistakes, demonstrated his value if given opportunity. hopefully other teams are watching this closely.

otherwise just a nauseating game. nobody played any defence, the whole offence was just basically chucking stuff up at the rim or leaking out in transition. can't wait for the return of Cuz and Gay, and the return of some half court basketball.
Oh I interpreted the question as best scrub, as in scrubbiest of the scrubs. That might explain things...
 
The Denver announcers were lousy. It's a small sample size, but IT has not looked good without the two big guns out there.
 
Anyone not named Gay or Cousins is a scrub? That is precisely what is wrong with the people on this forum. Last night's game would be very typical 25 or more years ago in the NBA. Not much emphasis on defense, lots of up and down and scores well over 100 points. That was the norm for a long time until some coaches like Popovich got tired of losing on nights when his team scored a lot of points. Last night is a good example. We can learn a lot from watching a game like last night. The Kings' were in this game the whole time. A few stops here and there and they could have won. Many games the Kings' play with everyone in the line-up ,the SCENARIO IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

It is obvious to anyone that knows basketball that the Kings' weaknesses are all on the defensive side of the ball. Cousins will never be the defensive savior of the team. The Kings' are likely to struggle to outscore opponents for some time to come.

I detest the weak term "heroball." With a thin lineup, someone has to step forward and try to lead the team. A player that is willing carry the load without a lot of help should not be chastised for taking the responsibility. Very soon I am going to give up and stop making comments about IT.

There is a disconnect between the way IT is viewed on this forum, and the way he is viewed by the owners, the coaches and most sportscasters. It is ironic that he is held in such low esteem by his "fans." Be careful what you wish for or the team will be lead by another Vasquez.
 
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Anyone not named Gay or Cousins is a scrub? That is precisely what is wrong with the people on this forum. Last night's game would be very typical 25 or more years ago in the NBA. Not much emphasis on defense, lots of up and down and scores well over 100 points. That was the norm for a long time until some coaches like Popovich got tired of losing on nights when his team scored a lot of points. Last night is a good example. We can learn a lot from watching a game like last night. The Kings' were in this game the whole time. A few stops here and there and they could have won. Many games the Kings' play with everyone in the line-up ,the SCENARIO IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

It is obvious to anyone that knows basketball that the Kings' weaknesses are all on the defensive side of the ball. Cousins will never be the defensive savior of the team. The Kings' are likely to struggle to outscore opponents for some time to come.

I detest the weak term "heroball." With a thin lineup, someone has to step forward and try to lead the team. A player that is willing carry the load without a lot of help should not be chastised for taking the responsibility. Very soon I am going to give up and stop making comments about IT.

There is a disconnect between the way IT is viewed on this forum, and the way he is viewed by the owners, the coaches and most sportscasters. It is ironic that he is held in such low esteem by his "fans." Be careful what you wish for or the team will be lead by another Vasquez.
Give up already and go. Who cares what you have to say if you think you need to insult everyone on this forum?
 
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