[Grades] Grades v. Nuggets 03/23/2013

Which one Nugget would help the Kings the most?

  • Gallinari

    Votes: 8 30.8%
  • Fareid

    Votes: 7 26.9%
  • Igoudala

    Votes: 7 26.9%
  • Miller

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • McGee

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
Our coach is a clown.

This is the second time in a month that we have had a team on an epic win streak on the ropes, in their own building, and decisions made by our coach could be directly pointed to as reasons why we did not pull the games out. Its maddening.

In this one:
-- Tyreke Evans sits the entire 4th quarter so that Marcus Thornton can shoot 4-13 and provide us with 2reb 1ast and 1 terrible turnover down the stretch.
-- DeMarcus Cousins is brought back early in the 4th to beat up on Anthony Randolph...except we do not run a single post play for Cousins while Randolph is out there, and instead the golden opportunity is wasted while Cousins picks up 2 fouls, misses a drive, and has Randolph hit a jumper on him.
-- Patrick Patterson is playing efficiently again (3-4FG) and helping keep us in it as a rare King who could shoot, so midway through the 4th he is promptly subbed out for JT (3-11FG) again and never returns until its desperation time
-- DeMarcus Cousins is dominating the game, scoring every trip, and generally trying to singlehandedly win it. IT apparently spots a hot Nuggets cheerleader and turns his head to stare at her rather than Andre Miller, end result is that the Nuggets push the lead to 6 with 42 seconds to go...and so the coach pulls Cousins. He pulls the one guy keeping us in the game. And better yet, he does this while leaving JT on the floor, so you can't even say it was just to get all shooters in the game, since Boogie is certainly more likely to hit a three than JT, more likely to get a rebound than JT...and in general I hope somebody eggs Smart's house tonight.

Phooey.

Full Grading Consortium for tonight:
Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial
bajaden


Boxscore

Stats: 36min 18pts (7-12, 4-8, 0-0) 3reb 2ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Salmons ( B+ ) -- John didn't have a great game, but he certainly had a good one. He played good defense the entire game, and he had his hands full trying to guard the much taller Galinari. Except for a few defensive breakdowns, he made Galinari work for every shot. Thankfully, the good shooting Salmons showed up tonight, and the Kings needed every shot he made. The game started badly for John when he lost Galinari, who ran a backdoor and dunked. He then missed a wide open corner three, that Cuz rebounded and put back in. But with 29.9 seconds left in the first half he hit a pullup 16 footer, and then hit a three with one second left in the half. That was to bode well for the second half. He started the second half by hitting a corner three. After missing a three from the top of the circle, he laid it in on an absolutely beautiful pass from Cuz. He then hit another three on a pass from Tyreke. He finished out his half by driving through the entire Nugget team and dunking, and then hitting a clutch, but probably irrelevant three with 16.2 seconds in the game. His only glaring mistake in the half was driving into the lane, spinning and having the ball stolen. Good game for John, and the game wouldn't have been as close as it was without his contribution. --Baja

Stats: 26min 6pts (3-11, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 1stl 1blk 0TO
Thompson ( D ) -- JT started the game well enough with a dunk on a nice pass from IT. A bit later he made a nice move in the post for a half hook, but it rolled off. Before heading to the bench in the first quarter, he hit a little flip shot off of a nice pass from Cuz. He returned with 6:10 left in the half, missed another hookshot, and that was about it. The second half was a virtual repeat of the first half. He started by rebounding a Tyreke miss and laying it in. He did a nice job of posting up the smaller Faried, but once again missed the shot. And that was about it. The rest of the time he was invisible, and he was particularly invisible on the defensive side of the ball again. JT has never been great defender, but no one could ever accuse him of not hustling. In the last two games, Mr. Hustle has been replaced with Mr. Passive. He's not rotating on defense, and he's not rebounding. Once again he failed to stop the ball in pick and roll defense, and once again in the second half, Smart had seen enough and got Patterson in the game quickly. The usually expressive Jason, even seemed a distant version of himself when called for a foul. Something going on with JT. Or at least thats how it appears to me. --Baja

Stats: 36min 24pts (10-16, 0-0, 4-8) 15reb 3ast 0stl 5blk 6TO
Cousins ( A- ) -- a game that started out of sorts and sloppy for Boogie as we just did not come out ready to play, ended up in a big thuggy effort as we took our big center and started beating the Nuggets over the head with him until they damn near said uncle. That's happened sevral tiimes in the last month, and its the way its supposed to be done. Didn't look like that was how it was going to go in the early going, as Cuz looked tired and distracted, and his teammates generally looked too brainless to make much of his advantage inside. He was very strong on the glass from the start, and was completely carrying us in that respect in another lone ranger effort night on the glass (he wrestled down 15, no other King grabbed more than 4), but his struggle to settle into this game was clearly reflected in a constant barrage of head slapping turnovers that started Nuggets breaks. He passed when he should have shot, creating a 24 sec violation, charged, threw several bad passes so off that the intended recipents were actually looking around thinking there had to be another King somewhere behind them that was the target. Just out of sorts. But there was a current of a power game running underneath. He wasn't getting many shots, but when he did get them he was throwing them down with power, and IT did an unusually good job on looking for him on pick and rols that began to pile up inside points. Despite a number of defensive mistakes there was effort there in another uncommon shotblocking night for him, and later on he would add taking a charge, with 5 fouls no less, to the tally. . Started the third in strong fashion, scoring on our first possession out of halftime and grabbing another rebound, and you could see the engine begin to get revved up. Punctuated things by absolutely posterizing Anthony Randolph for the +1 in the mid 3rd, and for once Smart did not freeze him out until the 4 minute mark or whatever the most recent stupidity is going to be. Instead was brought back in at the 9min mark of the 4th presumably to punish the Nuggets for running Randolph at center...and then largely ignored on offense to completely negate the tactic as our stupid team did not post him up once during that stretch. When we finally did start going to him on offense though -- ironically after Randolph had been evacuated by Karl -- things turned 90s monster center as we went to him again and again and pounded away at the Nuggets' weakness inside. Was dominating play, but getting scarce support from either teammates or his coach, who had him surrounded for much of the quarter by 1 John Salmons, and 3 guys who shot a collective 10-38. Was laboring out there but still just thumping away when Smart abruptly panicked at the 42 second mark and us down 6, and pulled Boogie to insert 3pt shooters (yet bizarrely leaving JT in instead). Boogie never returned as we lost this one with 24pts 15reb sitting on the bench. The early slop once had this grade pretty low, but not many teams have an interior weapon they can just hitch up and ride the way we did with Boogie after half. --Brick

Stats: 23min 4pts (2-5, 0-1, 0-0) 2reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Evans ( D ) -- Tonight was definitely not Tyreke's night. He didn't get the job done scoring, with a lot of shots going to the frontcourt; he didn't get the job done rebounding; he didn't get the job done distributing. He didn't get the job done defensively, either. There were multiple bad plays, but the most notable were his failure to box out the backcourt man on a Denver FT attempt, allowing the Nuggets to come right down the lane for an easy offensive rebound, and the Clear Path foul on Gallinari which not only could not possibly have been called any other way but also occurred on a play where it looked like Gallo might be passing instead of shooting. It was just the worst possible brainfart and the capper to a down defensive day. In the end, the only question that falls in Tyreke's favor is this one: Was he frozen out of the offense? Yeah, a bit, and that's really the only reason that I didn't go down to a F here, because 4 points, 2 assists and 2 rebounds is a terrible outing for a guy we have to make a qualifying offer to this offseason.--Capt.

Stats: 33min 10pts (3-12, 2-8, 2-3) 1reb 9ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- IT had a lousy shooting night (3-12), but made up for it by distributing the ball well, racking up nine assists, not only finding open three-point shooters but also repeatedly feeding the hot Cousins in the post. Notably he went to Cuz in the post three times in a row in the late 4th, when Cuz went 2-3 and brought us within three points. "The hand that giveth", however, turned around to make the defensive lapse of the game, allowing Andre Miller to drive right around him on the baseline with 50 seconds left to stretch a 3-point Nuggets lead to 6 and that was it. Outside of that, Thomas actually had a pretty good defensive play with few lapses and two very nice plays, getting a steal by nabbing an outlet pass in transition, and getting a virtual steal by deflecting a pass and forcing a Denver foul to avoid a break. The shooting was ugly, but the passing was good and the defense was up to par, so I think IT deserves a decent, but not great, grade. --Capt.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 31min 10pts (4-13, 0-5, 2-2) 2reb 1ast 1stl 1blk 2TO
Thornton ( D ) -- scored on a quick layup on an interior Cuz pass after entering, and followed that with a quick jumper as he seemed to be the only King playing at full speed in the early going. But cooled off magically once Iggy returned, and never was a factor again as he logged minute after empty minute, including the entire 4th despite doing basically nothing with it. Would occasionally force up a selifsh one on one attemtp, but mostly just bricked threes, did little else, and had one notably bad and badly timed turnover up top in the final minutes, throwing the ball right into Iggy's hands up top to trigger a Nuggets break. Added one more missed three when it was needed most in the final minute, and left you wondering, for the 100th time, what the hell Smart was watching out there.--Brick

Stats: 11min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-2) 4reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Aldrich ( B ) -- missed 2 FTs in the early going after Mcgee jumped on his back, and that happened quite a bit actually -- not the missed FTs, but ratehr the jumping on Cole's back as he was once again solidly clogging the middle and impeding guys on the boards, and the Nuggets were over eager and trying to just run through what they could nto run over. Nice big board and follow finish on a Thornton brick in the early 4th, but his 2nd stint minutes were limited as we wanted to get Boogie back out there as soon as possible. Another very solid roleplaying effort. Helps to have guys who know their limitations and play within them. --Brick

Stats: 8min 8pts (3-6, 1-2, 1-2) 0reb 0ast 1stl 1blk 0TO
Outlaw ( C ) -- started out as a joke, turned into a not joke, and returned to jokehood by the end again. The early joke was that Outlaw came into the game completely flat footed and slow footed, not even reacting on the boards, and just sort of ambling back up the court in transition "defense". The not joke came when he used his hangtime to get a finish inside, then followed with a long pullup wide open three. The rejoke came when he took that as encouragement for one of the stupidest spells of basketball we have seen of late, and we see a lot, as Travis Outlaw took it upon himself, or the team took it upon themselves, to make him into the featured player, and so we were treated to 2 to 3 minutes of the Travis Outlaw show as he came down the court, never thought of passing, and flew around throwing up Travis OUtlaw bricks. It was awesome.--Brick

Stats: 20min 7pts (3-4, 1-1, 0-0) 4reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Patterson ( C+ ) -- This was a very strange game for Patrick. It was basicly the tale of two halfs. And the fact that he did little to nothing in the first half, just wasn't his fault. He did play good defense once again, but that doesn't show up on a stat sheet. After entering the game at the end of the first quarter, he went 6 plus minutes without even touching the ball on the offensive side of the game as it became the Travis Outlaw show. Patrick didn't take a single shot in his time on the floor in the first half. He went back to the bench with about 6 minutes left in the half. The second half was a differnt story. He entered the game with 5 minutes left in the third quarter, and immediately hit a 16 foot jumper. He started the fourth quarter by hitting a corner three. And a bit later scored by dunking the ball. He only took 4 shots in the game and made three. He's been one of our best shooters and defenders of late, and I was totally confused when they decided to make Outlaw the man in the first half. I don't blame Outlaw. You pass me the ball and I'm feeling it, I'm going to shoot it. And to be fair to him, he was hitting his shots. It was his moment to shine when he hasn't had many moments lately. But to completely ignore a player thats been playing great basketball is beyond me. This was a game that we could have won if it had been managed better. I'm laying this loss at the feet of Keith Smart. --Baja

Stats: 10min 0pts (3-5, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Fredette ( C ) -- Missed his first three to start the 2nd and commenced a long stretch of doing nothing -- in fact appears to have maybe lost confidence in his three point stroke and was actually running away from that shot. Finally hit a shorter jumper off a JT screen with 5:30 minutes to go in the half, and followed it with a little burst on two good litle runner/pullups. But just before leaving basically created a Nuggets fast break with an awful forced three point attempt where he fell down and couldn't slow the Nuggets breakers as they took the long rebound the other way. Some of this, some of that on defense against Miller -- it wasn't a terrible matchup for him, they are basically the same size, and Miller is not much quicker at this point. --Brick

Stats: 5min 0pts (0-1, 0-1, 0-0) 0reb 3ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Douglas ( INC ) -- Came in for five minutes bridging the third and fourth quarters and racked up three assists, but found himself in trouble on offense twice due to the trap, once being forced to call a timeout and the other time committing and over-and-back violation. Put out hsi typical effort on D but got beat on the drive by Julyan Stone of all people three times resulting in two frontcourt fouls and 5 points scored on three shots. Defensive effort does not always equal defensive effectiveness. In the end, didn't play enough to earn a grade. --Capt.

Hayes (DNP-CD) -- Chuck seems to have lost his minutes to the current flavor of the month, Aldrich. Hey, I'm not blaming Smart on this one, or Aldrich. You've got to see what you have in Aldrich, but I would have found a way to give Chuck a few minutes somewhere. --Baja
 
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Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#5
Smart is a moron. That's the nicest thing I can say. Maybe he was under the impression that he couldn't sub in Evans. Seems as though substitution rules are a challenge for Smart, anyway.
 
#6
I'm curious to hear what his "reasoning" was for the lack of Reke, too much JT, etc. But to be honest, I'm kind of glad the presser didn't get aired.

I just don't know if I can even listen to him talk right now. I've never witnessed a more incompetent coach. I'd rather have Natt - at least he'd play Reke.
 
#7
wow and Reke had been a real impact guy the last couple of games. Really had shown his stuff vs Clippers and Wolves. I've tuned out most of the Smart bashing this year for some reason, but damn man are you stupid or what??? damn.
 
K

KingMilz

Guest
#10
I'm a bit suprised everyone is picking Faried over Gallo, imo Patterson starting next to Cousins is a better fit and Gallo @SF with his ability to pass and be a streaky shooter and all-round player would bring far more to the Kings than anyone on the Nuggets roster (other than Lawson who was not on the list).

I still don't get why when JT is struggling PPat does not play together with Cousins thats the best C/PF combo we got, Douglas while he didn't play that well should have got more mins to find his groove and in particular in the 4th to come in and stop the crafty vet #24 for the Nuggs. Even with our backcourt being completely bad our missed free throws really killed us in the end I thought.

Im happy with the effort the boys gave tho and It's not like its easy to win in Denver no matter if they play below there best.
 
#11
I don't understand why Smart won 2 good games playing Evans with Pat and Douglas (and Aldrich), but never went to it a single time this game. At some point you really wonder what the **** goes through this man's mind. And JT has been absolutely useless these last few games. I would honestly give his minutes to Aldrich and Patterson.
 
#12
well tonight we saw more of the same things we have been seeing basically every game:

1: Patterson proving to be better than JT

2: Questionable and completely random second quarter lineups that put us in a hole

3: Isaiah shooting too much, and lots of dumb shots. also getting abused defensively. with one especially bad defensive play at the end

4: Tyreke getting criminalized by Keith Smart

5: John Salmons playing more minutes than anyone on the team

6:and of course, Cole Aldrich once again had the best +/- on the team (tied with PPat)
 
#13
i can't believe they didn't run any flipping plays for reke. nobody comes out to set the pick for him to work. it's disgusting. why the hell is IT given the green light to run and chuck? i can't wait til new ownership gets in and cans smart.
 
#14
1: Patterson proving to be better than JT

Agree 100%. JT is decent depth, that's it.

2: Questionable and completely random second quarter lineups that put us in a hole

Actually I was complaining when he had the Jimmer, Outlaw, Aldritch combo but we gained on the nuggets during this time so I'll shut up.

3: Isaiah shooting too much, and lots of dumb shots. also getting abused defensively. with one especially bad defensive play at the end

I can agree but Douglas looked worse getting double teamed (I think they found his achiles heel). Who do we put in, Jimmer?

4: Tyreke getting criminalized by Keith Smart

??????

5: John Salmons playing more minutes than anyone on the team

Did he? He was sort of invisible.

6:and of course, Cole Aldrich once again had the best +/- on the team (tied with PPat)[/QUOTE]

I like Aldrich. They should try putting him and cousins out there together sometimes just to give Aldrich more minutes
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#15
Was there a coaching move worse than not playing Tyreke in the last 15 minutes (is that right?) of the game following games where he beasted in the 34th quarter? This coupled with the shooting non-production of anyone he could have replaced. I realize that question may force people to think of coaching brain farts but I can't imagine anything worse. I swear Smart has a real problem with memory. I am not joking. Perhaps he forgot Tyreke was on the team.
 
#16
I'm done worrying about Smart. He's gone in 13 games and we all know he's doofus #1 our our organization.

The bright spot out of all of this is we know this team can hang with the best in the league, despite our coaching.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#17
i can't believe they didn't run any flipping plays for reke. nobody comes out to set the pick for him to work. it's disgusting. why the hell is IT given the green light to run and chuck? i can't wait til new ownership gets in and cans smart.
First off, your assuming that they actually run plays. Secondly, Tyreke has to be more aggressive in demanding the ball, and when he does have it, be more aggressive doing something with it. Many times in the first half the ball was passed to him and he immediately passed to someone else. Now to be fair, he got a couple of assists off those passes. I'm by no means excusing Smart, or IT. But it is up to Tyreke to make his own case out there, and demand the ball. I mean he's a lot bigger than IT. Just threaten to beat the crap out of him. Just kidding, just kidding!

This is a team that just takes turns going Isolation, with the occasional drive and kick. Just curious, did anyone keep track of how many times in the first half that Patrick Patterson was wide open with no player within 15 feet of him? I counted 6 times, and not once did he get the ball passed to him. I mean hell, why would you want to pass the ball to someone thats been one of our most consistent shooters of late. And I'm laying some of this at Jimmers feet, since he was the lead guard for most ot that time.
 

bajaden

Hall of Famer
#18
1: Patterson proving to be better than JT

Agree 100%. JT is decent depth, that's it.

2: Questionable and completely random second quarter lineups that put us in a hole

Actually I was complaining when he had the Jimmer, Outlaw, Aldritch combo but we gained on the nuggets during this time so I'll shut up.

3: Isaiah shooting too much, and lots of dumb shots. also getting abused defensively. with one especially bad defensive play at the end

I can agree but Douglas looked worse getting double teamed (I think they found his achiles heel). Who do we put in, Jimmer?

4: Tyreke getting criminalized by Keith Smart

??????

5: John Salmons playing more minutes than anyone on the team

Did he? He was sort of invisible.

6:and of course, Cole Aldrich once again had the best +/- on the team (tied with PPat)


In defense of Salmons last night, he played 36 minutes, and he wasn't invisible. He played solid defense, and he did score 18 pts on 7 of 12 shooting and went 2 of 4 from the three. When he plays badly I'll say so, but you have to give credit where credits due. And last night Salmons played well.
 
#19
In defense of Salmons last night, he played 36 minutes, and he wasn't invisible. He played solid defense, and he did score 18 pts on 7 of 12 shooting and went 2 of 4 from the three. When he plays badly I'll say so, but you have to give credit where credits due. And last night Salmons played well.
Thank you, baja. The gist of your post is rare on here. I'll give Smart credit, he knows enough to play Salmonsd big minutes. Veteran Salmons is is the most complete basketball player among the starters.
 
#21
Thank you, baja. The gist of your post is rare on here. I'll give Smart credit, he knows enough to play Salmonsd big minutes. Veteran Salmons is is the most complete basketball player among the starters.
I agree. Salmons gets unfairly lambasted because of how he used to be. Helps those young guys out so much when he's out there. He understands his role on the team.
 
#22
In defense of Salmons last night, he played 36 minutes, and he wasn't invisible. He played solid defense, and he did score 18 pts on 7 of 12 shooting and went 2 of 4 from the three. When he plays badly I'll say so, but you have to give credit where credits due. And last night Salmons played well.
Also, what's the alternative to Salmons? We don't exactly have Kevin Durant or LeBron on the bench wasting away.

Salmons has the ability to produce some good games at the SF position. Outlaw and Johnson... do not
 
#23
Also, what's the alternative to Salmons? We don't exactly have Kevin Durant or LeBron on the bench wasting away.

Salmons has the ability to produce some good games at the SF position. Outlaw and Johnson... do not
He also adds an extra ball handler that most of the time makes smart decisions on the floor.
 
#25
I agree. Salmons gets unfairly lambasted because of how he used to be. Helps those young guys out so much when he's out there. He understands his role on the team.
I guess I will add to the Salmons lovefest :p

I have to admit - after his last stint with the team, he was easily one of my least favorite players to ever wear a Kings uni. But this time around, for many of the same reasons others have stated, I've changed my mind about him. To be quite honest, he's currently one of my favorite players on the team.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#26
Salmons has changed a lot and I suspect he gets all the minutes because he can do everything other than simply shoot the ball.