Grades v. Mavs 03/24

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good grades. i also noticed the kings "clapping" when someone is about to shoot and they can't get there fast enough. i think doug taught them this trick a while back, but i don't think i've seen them use it recently.

peja used this when shawn bradley was about to shoot. shawn missed. mobley also did this to another guy (i can't remember), and he missed.

i think that's a good strategy. i mean, rather than an uncontested shot, atleast try to distract them a little :)
 
Bricklayer said:
House ( B+ ) -- another very nice backup stint for Eddie in the first half...that somehow again failed to translate into any minutes in the second half.QUOTE]

RA is contradicting himself with Eddie's P.T.!!! He talks about how he can't get Mike any rest because the team falls apart?!?! I dont see it at all. I think the team falls apart when Mike is getting into extended minutes. Early 2nd quarter he misses a bunch of shots and team struggles. As soon as Eddie comes in he reenergizes the squad. I would like to see Mike get 35 miutes and House get around 15. Give them a couple minutes on the floor together to help Mobley rest his foot a little bit. But A WIN IS A WIN!
 
Good grades, good game. Very pleased. I think the Kings really could do some damage against the Mavs in the First round. I am not going to go blindly and say the Kings can definately take them, but I believe if they play like they did last night (with a little better shooting from The Bibbman) the Kings could.

Now, I went to the Mavtalk forum to see what they had to say, and holy cow! There is a guy there JonG. He has so much hostility toward the Kings and us (the fans). You'd think we kidnapped his Mom and held her for ransom or something. Chill out man, and by the way - if you think the Kings are just going to let the Mavs roll all over them - you are very sadly mistaken.

Not only that, they don't believe the Jirk foul should have been called a flagrant... Well, if not then - why even have flagrant fouls???? :rolleyes:
 
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LMM said:
good grades. i also noticed the kings "clapping" when someone is about to shoot and they can't get there fast enough. i think doug taught them this trick a while back, but i don't think i've seen them use it recently.

peja used this when shawn bradley was about to shoot. shawn missed. mobley also did this to another guy (i can't remember), and he missed.

i think that's a good strategy. i mean, rather than an uncontested shot, atleast try to distract them a little :)

This is actually an old Pollard trick he was the first to bring it to the Kings.
 
HndsmCelt said:
I would up Kenny to at least a B+ for the hard (NOT a Flagrant) foul in retaliation to Dirks punk play... good to see a King not afarid to give paybacks!

That's what I thaught when I saw the play: Celt will aprove. ;)
 
Great grades. Pedja was obviously the star of the night, but let me single out Cat for the praise (as he is one King I am usually most sceptical about): last two games, even though he didn't have his A game or gave vintage performances, Cat looked like a Kings player. His passing was way, way better even if it is not reflected in the stats. He even started making DC-like passes to the middle with some authority. This could be great new development for Kings and for Cat as a player. Keep it up Cat and A's will soon follow.
 
Nice grades, I would agree from top to bottom. When Peja's feelin' it, he's FEELIN' IT! 38 points on 13 shots....almost averaging 3 pts/shot...doesn't get much more productive than that. And we witnessed what great things can happen when the man gets to the basket and gets sent to the stripe...14/14 is amazing...

And just when I thought I couldn't despise Dirk "that feisty German" Nowitzki anymore, he goes and does what he did and talks about it to the press like he didn't do a damn thing wrong...ooooo...GOD, I hope we play them again in the playoffs. This was a perfect springboard for some serious confidence against the Mavs...and vice versa...
 
teamdimechampionship said:
Bricklayer said:
House ( B+ ) -- another very nice backup stint for Eddie in the first half...that somehow again failed to translate into any minutes in the second half.QUOTE]

RA is contradicting himself with Eddie's P.T.!!! He talks about how he can't get Mike any rest because the team falls apart?!?! I dont see it at all. I think the team falls apart when Mike is getting into extended minutes. Early 2nd quarter he misses a bunch of shots and team struggles. As soon as Eddie comes in he reenergizes the squad. I would like to see Mike get 35 miutes and House get around 15. Give them a couple minutes on the floor together to help Mobley rest his foot a little bit. But A WIN IS A WIN!
True, Bibby shouldn't be playing a lot of mins. But I'll rather have Bibby on the floor especially in clutch time than House. Seems like Adelman agrees with me. :) House had a good game in his few mins. But there was a shot I thought he forced. Thank God he made that 3 pointer.
 
Bricklayer said:
Peja ( A+ ) -- Could be absolutely no question at all about this one -- tonight Peja put aside the weenie shooter routine and gave a true superstar performance. Exploded out of the gate with what may have been one of the finer first quarters of his entire NBA career. Not just scoring, but *gasp* grabbing loose rebounds. Was slowed in the early second by foul trouble and fatigue, but returned after a spell on the bench to again dominate offensive action for us. Best half of the season that eventually turned into his best game of the season. Huge key for Peja was that not only was his shot ridiculously on tonight, but he got to the foul line in true superstar fashion -- 14-14. Career high? In the first half the Mavs did at least find a player -- Keith Van Horn -- who could score on Peja as often as Peja was scoring on the other end, but in the second half Peja kept on scoring while the Mavs kept on playing traditional Mavericks defense on him. And nether Van Horn nor any other Mav not named Dirk had any impact at all. Did not disappear in the 4th quarter (although he did make a dubious decision to chuck up a 30 footer with about a minute to go that was effectively a turnover). While he didn't grab many boards after the initial burst, came up with a big one to help seal it in the final seconds.
Thomas ( B ) -- got off to a rough start against Dirk, who wasn't scoring much but was drawing fouls on the Kings frontcourt. And on defense struggled against Dirk badly enough that we actually had to hide him away in the second half. Woke up in the second quarter and hit 3 straight jumpers, but then got HAMMERED by Dirk Nowitzki of all people on a breakaway. Went away for a long time after that, and basically took himself out of the game on a couple of not-smart fouls on Dirk in the mid-third (the first of which was called a flagrant, although really it wasn't). But stepped up and played well down the stretch -- again the key to his contribution was the 18ft standstill jumper, which he can hit all night. Tonight if he moved, he missed. But when given a little room and an opportunity to set his feet, he hit 5 or 6 of those little jumpers in a row. By the end, had worked himself into a solid game despite the defensive struggles, and may have matched Dirk offensively in the final quarter.
Skinner ( B- ) -- not as effective early as he has been in the past, but did contribute a big early block on the 7'6" Shawn Bradley. Went on to get his numbers in the game, but got them in pretty quiet fashion and was never a significant factor in this one.
Mobley ( B- ) -- played wingman to Peja in the first quarter, as two of our softer players not only scored but contributed in the hustle departments -- both on the glass, and in Mobley's case with steals and a block as well. Was quiet after he returned in the second, and never really did get his offense going. But thought he did a nice job in the other areas with hustle, some boardwork, blocks and steals, and in general a pretty complete floorgame.
Bibby ( C+ ) -- Hard game to grade simply because I didn't think he played very well, but he did direct an offense that scored 109pts (albeit largely due to Peja's hot shooting). Very quiet first half -- barely knew he was out there. Began to sputter to life in the third with a couple of three point hits mixed in with a variety of bricks, and gave us a few more points in the 4th. But in general it was a struggling 17pts tonight. On the other end of the court Jason Terry was just terrible. Would like to attribute that to Mike, but no, think he just stunk it up and Devin Harris proved to be a pain again off the bench.
Songaila ( B ) -- started out looking very much like a sore basketball player out there. Had an ineffective first half, and wasn't moving very smoothly. But came back in the second half to play an important role for us. Never much offensively, but grabbed some boards, and critically provided by far the best defense on Dirk tonight down the stretch of the game.
Williamson ( C- ) -- struggled on offense during the first half. Competed with Dirk on the other end of the floor, with decidedly mixed results. Enough of a struggle that Rick went away from him in the second half.
Evans ( C+ ) -- not terribly effective in his stints and not able to dominate action with his athleticism and energy. Really kind of placeholder minutes until Cat could return.
House ( B+ ) -- another very nice backup stint for Eddie in the first half...that somehow again failed to translate into any minutes in the second half.

Adelman ( B+ ) -- very encouraging game against a possible first round opponent, and actually the reason that the Mavs remain the team I would most like to see in the first round. The enemy we know and have always been able to beat. Important game as well, since every single one of our playoff positioning rivals also won tonight (Seattle, Houston, Memphis, Denver) -- well, every one except the Mavs of course. :p The Mavs were really a one man team tonight (and so were we actually) -- Van Horn and Harris had stretches of effectiveness, but it was Dirk, Dirk, and more Dirk. And really the crux of the issue tonight for Rick was simply finding someone, anyone who could slow him down. It took 3 quarters, and about 4 different players, but Rick finally found an adequate solution with Darius in the 4th. Didn't lock him up, but made it hard on the big German, which was all that was needed with us scoring at will against the Mavs "defense". The bench was not used extensively again, but Darius was a key contributor late, and it was enough. And so a good win over a good opponent (still not going with the sudden elevation of the Mavs to "elite" status -- they are what they have always been). Now if we can just convince Peja to play like a superstar on a nightly basis, we're in good shape.

P.S. I do have to ask one question -- exactly how many layups did the Mavs blow tonight? Goodness. Looked like us out there.



You gotta be kidding me! You don't mess around when you anylize a game.
 
One thing I noticed is that Thomas and Skinner don't WHINE!! They just turn around and run back up court. They plead their case once, and only once, and if the ref doesn't agree, they go back to work. I'm hoping this rubs off on some of our more...shall we say...vocal players...
 
bozzwell said:
That's what I thaught when I saw the play: Celt will aprove. ;)
What you cound not hear me on TV shouting "NICE JOB KENNY... Give Dirk a little!" ... oh well you seem to know my style!
 
captain bill said:
about darius defending dirk- i think ra wanted to go that route earlier, but the first time he came in dirk came out a second later- didnt have a chance to defend him. darius got pulled before dirk came back, and the same thing happened the second time darius came back. maybe he should have been played earlier, but sometimes thats just the way it goes. also, the mavs may have realized darius matches up best with dirk and decided to rest him while d was on the floor

Hey, maybe we should do that whenever one of those guys that guards Peja really close like Bruce Bowen or something comes on the floor? Just bring Peja out for a bit, and put him in as soon as Bowen goes out?
 
Good grades, but I have a small question: How come Avery Joneson (sp?) is the head coach of the mavs, did I miss something key here? what happened to Nelly? thanks.
 
Kings-Lakers-Fan said:
Good grades, but I have a small question: How come Avery Joneson (sp?) is the head coach of the mavs, did I miss something key here? what happened to Nelly? thanks.
Nellie resign a few days ago and he made Johnson the head coach. Johnson have coach the last 4?5? games. Last night was his first lost. Glad it was against our Kings. :D
 
KingCookie said:
One thing I noticed is that Thomas and Skinner don't WHINE!! They just turn around and run back up court. They plead their case once, and only once, and if the ref doesn't agree, they go back to work. I'm hoping this rubs off on some of our more...shall we say...vocal players...

I've never noticed that with K9 but i HAVE noticed it with Brian...sometimes i say to the TV "Don't stop arguing it you're right you're right" but like you said they argue it once...sometimes not even at all...and then turn around and run up the court...like every player in the NBA would have argued that travel call that Brian had at the end of the LAC game...whether they did indeed travel or not...but Brian turned around and ran up court...he didn't even say ONE word
 
VF21 said:
What a tool...

Any respect I once had for Dirk Nowitzki has gone out the window with his recent personality transformation into a Cuban clone.

I would absolutely loved to have seen him get his clock cleaned, although I have to grudgingly admit that Adelman did the right thing. I would have sent Tag in just long enough to ...

Well, I'll just remind you that Tag played for years under Jerry Sloan and let your imagination fill in the gap.

You were outplayed, Dirk. Suck it up and face it. Your team is all flash and still no substance. Dallas is the ultimate dog and pony show and will be as long as you have Mark Cuban calling all the shots.
I agree 100 % ... Dirk wasnt like this before... hes gotten Big Headed ...
 
I am really proud of our boys. All of our boys. Bibby is obviously feeling tired from being played so many minutes, and yet he can still control the pace of the game and keep his team going. I just hope he doen't run out of steam come playoff time. That is why putting in House becomes so crucial now. We need productive minutes from him and I think he has showed that he can step up.
Watching Peja last night was like coming home to your favorite fuzzy blanket and settling down with a cup of cocoa. It felt right and good. I was on my feet screaming so many times. Bibby and Cat. were getting him the ball where he needed it instead of him finding his own shot and it was beautiful.
I to am surprised that Dirk was not hurt last night. It showed a lot of restraint from our guys not to retaliate and I may be wrong here, but I think we need to look at RA for that. Seeing Dirk, someone I used to respect highly for his play, turn into a punk like that is truly disturbing. He'll get his though when we beat him down in the playoffs.
 
iheartBrad said:
I've never noticed that with K9 but i HAVE noticed it with Brian...sometimes i say to the TV "Don't stop arguing it you're right you're right" but like you said they argue it once...sometimes not even at all...and then turn around and run up the court...like every player in the NBA would have argued that travel call that Brian had at the end of the LAC game...whether they did indeed travel or not...but Brian turned around and ran up court...he didn't even say ONE word

Love them for that...

Why bother to complain when the refs are not going to change the call. Plus, it draws them away from the game when they whine too much.
Just focus and play good basketball. Don't let the refs dictate the game.
 
The flagrant Dirk threw at Thomas was bad, almost enough that they shoulda ejected him from the game. But what really annoyed me was Dirk having the nerve to complain about being given a flagrant for that chop.

Also seems a shame Thomas was given a flagrant on such a borderline play. If you're going to put a flagrant on his record, at least let him get his money's worth on Dirk!
 
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