[Grades] Grades v. Lakers 4/2/2014

If we had lost this game, both teams would have been 26-49 for the lottery. Worth it to beat L.A.?

  • yes

    Votes: 51 83.6%
  • no

    Votes: 10 16.4%

  • Total voters
    61
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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First of all, welcome the Consortium back from their little late season vacation.

Secondly, its really too damn bad Mike D'Antoni has been allowed by Dr. Buss's idiot son to come in and turn these Lakers/Kings "showdowns" into silly run 'n gun junkball exhibitions. I felt rather more fear that we'd play into their hands and let such a stupidly built team beat us again than exhilaration at doing what everybody else has done all season long to them. How do you crush out the hopes and dreams of a crew of randomly matched scrubs representing a fanbase actively rooting for them to lose?

Anyway, maybe best to ignore the ignoble depths to which the rivalry has currently sunk, and just focus onkey developments. And of course the biggest two keys were #1: Cuz got entirely taken out of this game by the refs, and still put up 20-10...in 21min, including a number of the sealing plays at the end of the game as a quiet f u to the refs. And then maybe in part because of that Ray went off and had himself another career night.

Now let's get 2 negative notes out of the way first. First, this was the absolute perfect game for our rookie guards to show well because D'Idiot was coaching, and he intentionally wants to make the game all about guards running and chucking. They are the second worst defensive team in the league (to Philly, who just lost 26 in a row). Its all open court. Its junk. The second thing of course is that Ray took 22 shots, notched 5 assists, and we flat scream about that when IT does it. Well... Now, that said, Ray is more than just settling in out there, he looks flat comfortable as a scorer. On offense its still mostly dump it to Cuz and semi-open court, but I don't know if we have more than that in the playbook really, and if we ever did, we probably excised it with IT our there. And Ray was able to dart about and really put up an IT statline. Somebody a few games ago asked if the Ray/Ben draft could turn out like the IT/Jimmer draft. You do have to wonder, although Ben has physical tools that Jimmer never will. Ray though has the moxy.

So "beat LA" may not have quite the luster right now, but there was still stuff to watch, and I would imagine this was exactly what they were looking for when Isaiah suddenly came down with his "injury" last week.

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Uncia03
MassacheusettsKingsFan
Henkel


Boxscore

Stats: 43min 30pts (12-24, 1-2, 6-7) 5reb 4ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
Gay ( A- ) -- Rudy had a poor start to this one, shooting only 1-5 in the first quarter, but I liked the Kings strategy. Due to Rudy’s size advantage over both Bazemore and Meeks, the Kings tried to get the ball to Rudy in good positions close to the basket, but he just wasn’t converting, so while the numbers didn’t look pretty in that first quarter I thought that if they stuck with it he’d be able to turn it around. He did, and from the second quarter on he poured in points from all over the court. He had 3 or 4 dunks, he had multiple close range jumpers, and he was converting some of those earlier deep position attempts with either layups or trips to the free throw line. And I’ll give him a little more credit for the offense tonight than I normally would because Isaiah Thomas was out once again, and DeMarcus Cousins was dealing with foul trouble all game long. With all of that being said, Rudy wasn’t as efficient as he could have been tonight. There were certainly forces, and a couple attempts at drawing fouls that didn’t work, so it wasn’t perfect. Again, though, in this game against the D’Antoni Lakers, offensive numbers get a little funky. He was good on that end tonight. I was a lot less impressed with his defensive effort. There were just too many possessions that he didn’t play defense with any sort of urgency or smarts. He got beat on a back door screen, left shooters open from the perimeter, and failed to get back on defense too often for my liking. Of course, that is how this terrible Lakers team wants to play, but Rudy wasn’t very good on defense tonight and it wasn’t because he was guarding All-Star level talent, he just wasn’t committed to playing that side of the ball. And I’m not putting the entire teams lack of defense on Rudy, but he was one of many players who didn’t put forth their best effort on that end. So this was a case of good (and much needed) offense and lackluster defense on a night where the Kings beat the Lakers. A- feels appropriate.--Mass

Stats: 17min 3pts (1-3, 0-0, 1-2) 2reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Evans ( C- ) -- surprisingly ineffective outing by Reggie, as you would have expected him to dominate the smallballers. Sometimes pulled away from the hoop by Ryan Kelly, but not consistently enough to explain the difference, and Kelly actually outrebounded him. had several loose plays, gambling for a steal and leaving the rim open, rumbling and bumbling pretty much fullcourt, missing the layup but wrestling it back and laying it in. Was briefly left in for Cousins as a smallball center, but it still did to get him going, and with JT playing solidly again, the minutes went Jason's way instead. Maybe still grumpy about the emo league office stealing 15 grand from his pocket for that nothing down in New Orleans. I know somebody steals 15 grand from me I'm showing up at their front door with a baseball bat. --Brick

Stats: 21min 20pts (8-14, 0-0, 4-6) 10reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Cousins ( B+ ) -- This had all the makings of a big night for Cousins. As he was coming into this one with the momentum of a recent dominating performance, while facing off against one of the least intimating front courts in the league. And when he was on the floor, doing all his damage in a meager 21 minutes, everything went as expected. Unfortunately struggled with foul trouble once again. He contributed one bad foul, reaching in for the steal in the early going, while the other calls against him range from questionable to complete nonsense. Started things off with a couple of nice passes out of the post as the Lakers were looking to send help every time he set up down low. Despite being over matched Hill actually did a admirable job in the early going as he managed to challenge Cousins on a couple of drive. These minor victories faded as the quarter progressed and Cousins got down to exploiting his strength advantage. He ran the floor hard, establishing excellent post position for the easy basket. Then managed to corral a offensive board and putback to go along with a easy a one off of nice set up inside by McCallum. As the quarter was winding down he picked up his second foul on a bad call. He clearly had position as he set up for the offensive board. Barely made contact with his off arm on Bazemore, but apparently that was enough to draw the foul. Played well in the early going, a good thing considering it would be his longest stretch in this one. Saw almost no time in the second as he quickly picked up his third foul closing out on Young in transition on the long jumper. Had his minutes limited in the third by foul trouble as well. Did manage to have a impact as he continued to be aggressive down low while throwing in a sweet little fading mid range jumper. Picked up his fourth trying to protect the rim in transition. Appeared to do a pretty good job from my angle, but alas was once again forced to sit with about six minutes left in the third. Sat until well into the fourth as Malone didn't seem overly compelled to put this one away. Considering all the factors involved it's not surprising. The team was looking to feed him down low to close this one out. Got the hook shot to go after over powering Hill in the post. Then quickly came back and drew the foul on another post up opportunity. Had a spectacular play as he stole the rebound from Hill and took it the length of the court while being challenged by a couple of Lakers, finishing it off with a nice shovel pass to Outlaw for the lay-in. Managed one last trip to line as Hill was forced to foul after Cousins escaped the double team by spinning and driving the baseline. It wasn't a perfect finish, but was too much to handle down low as he and Gay teamed up to closed this one out. A tough game to grade. He was engaged and productive every minute he was on the court and I'm giving him a pass on the foul trouble tonight. Regardless his impact was limited, which kept me from going any higher. --Henkel

Stats: 45min 12pts (5-11, 1-4, 1-1) 4reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( C ) -- you would expect a running scramble game to exactly cater to an athletic rookie, and for about 18 minutes of this one things went as expected. Got right off to the good start to this one with maybe his two most "useable" plays in the future as Cuz immediately hit him out of a double for a feet set three, and then he followed with an aggressivish contested two pointer of a sort he rarely has shown. But that was it, 3min into the game, for the forceful jumpshooting (at least accurate jumpshooting) portion of his evening. he got one more little open jumper to go in the early 2nd, and then that entirely disappeared. From then on out it was a mixture of runouts, including one he finished with a nice forceful +1 drive, and unsuccessful runouts, as he got blocked multiple times around the rim trying to finish. Defensively was fine early, but Meeks began to get going after half, and Ben eventually lost the matchup again. Pulled Hill out of the air by his arm on a play with about 5min to go. With everything that gets called "flagrant"nowadays I was half surprised he didn't get tagged for one. think he had 10 of his 12 points by half. 8 of his 12 within seconds of the beginning of the 2nd quarter. Then played another half hour as a ghost as the same C/SF/PG trifecta that has haunted his entire rookie season once again took over. For a brief spell again looked good. Just never seems to sustain.--Brick

Stats: 46min 27pts (12-22, 1-6, 2-4) 4reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
McCallum ( A- ) -- Ray is in one of those late season grooves which is usually reserved for guys finishing the end of a contract and hoping to squeeze a lot more money from a GM in the off-season. Except Ray isn’t playing for money right now, but rather for the opportunity for a lot more playing time next season. He has now strung together 2 and a half really strong games of basketball, played a ton of minutes, and demonstrated to the fans the reason why the FO said they were high on this kid. Here is one of the most important things to consider with this grade. At the 2:30 mark of the 1st quarter both Rudy and Cousins left the floor with the game tied 18-18. For the next 5 minutes Ray played with-out those two guys and scored 10 points, had 2 assists and a missed assist opportunity, and when Rudy came back in, the Kings had a 6 point lead. I was expecting the Kings to falter in those minutes, but Ray carried the team. And due to Cousins' limited minutes, it was Ray who stepped it up, along-side Rudy, to get the victory tonight. One of the best things I saw tonight was that he made his shots at the rim. Yay! To this point I’ve been unable to grasp his inability to finish at the rim. In his limited minutes through-out the season he’s shown the ability to get to the rim at a fairly decent clip and a complete inability to actually finish with a bucket or a foul. He was helped tremendously in this one due to the midget line-up the Laker’s played, and he did what he was supposed to do by getting right to the rim and finishing at a very high rate. He got his shot blocked a couple of times and had two terrible attempts at the rim in the last minute of the 3rd quarter, but by and large he attacked and finished with high efficiency. When grading Ray, to me he had an A+ type of 1st half scoring 17 points, with 4 assists, and 5 passes that should have led to assists, and only 1 turn-over, while really stepping up when Cousins and Rudy were not on the floor. The 2nd half he was not nearly as effective, and it could just be the minutes catching up to him. He had 10 points on 9 shots, only 1 assist, 3 passes that should have led to assists, and 2 turn-overs…though I only saw one, so I don’t know where that 2nd one came from. And it was the 4th quarter in particular where he was almost invisible. He played the entire 4th quarter and took 3 shots, had no assists, and only 1 pass that could have even been an assist, so I’m guessing that he was starting to run out of gas as he wasn’t nearly as active the latter part of the game.
When grading IT, I’ve usually counted up the times where he’s basically just taken it up the court and put up a shot with-out getting anyone involved. I did the same with Ray, and Ray had more than I would have liked, especially in the 2nd quarter. He had 1 in the 1st quarter, 4 in the 2nd quarter, and one on the last shot of the 3rd quarter on a horrible take to the basket. Lastly we have his ridiculously high number of shot attempts in this game. 22 is just way too many shots for him. He did take a desperation shot to beat the shot clock one time, but he also took all 3 shots to end the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters, and he took two poor shots in the last minute of the 3rd quarter. But even with the extremely high number of shots, there is one mitigating factor that has to be considered. And that was the number of shot attempts he took in three different situations. When he was on the court with both Cousins and Rudy he only took 5 shots. When it was just him and Rudy out there he took 11 shots, and he took 6 shots when he was all by himself. So it looks as if he is playing the role of 3rd fiddle to Cousins and Rudy, which is what you’d want, since he doesn’t have anywhere near the offensive skills that they do. The only other concern in watching him was his disappearance in the 4th quarter, but I am going to chalk that up to him being tired as he’s never played these sorts of minutes before. The final thing I want to mention is his defense. As has been the case in the past, he played very good defense for most of this game. I know it looks like a throw-away line at the end of the grade, but he did hustle and scrap on the defensive end all game long. He didn’t win every battle, but he worked hard on that end all night and was effective for the majority of the game against all the guys he ended matching up with. So strong game by Ray, with a huge 1st half and an OK 2nd half. He took a lot of shots, but the majority of them were at the rim where he finished with good efficiency. Let’s hope that Cousins can play more than 21 minutes in the next game so that Ray will not end up taking so many shots.--Uncia
 
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Bench

Stats: 10min 1pts (0-2, 0-0, 1-2) 3reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Williams ( D ) -- Man. Derrick Williams is really falling off a cliff here late in the season. It’s gotten to the point where Malone is totally justified playing Travis Outlaw 32 minutes to Williams 10. I don’t have too many notes on Williams’s game tonight because he was hardly noticeable out there. His only point was a free throw, and was just too passive once again. It’s becoming increasingly clear that Derrick Williams is the sort of player that needs to start. He’s just not effective coming in off the bench. He hasn’t been for two seasons in Minnesota, and he hasn’t been here. And if Williams is ever going to get a starting small forward opportunity in this league again, I highly doubt that will be in Sacramento. He’s falling so out of favor here that I’d be surprised if his expiring contract isn’t dealt this offseason. --Mass

Stats: 23min 2pts (1-2, 0-0, 0-2) 12reb 3ast 3stl 3blk 0TO
Thompson ( B+ ) -- actually did not get off to a very good start to this one in place of Cuz. Was not able to defend the rim, and in his first stint had a few boards, but no particular board impact. Was out of the game for all of a minute when he had to be hustled right back in when the refs slapped Cuz with a quick third foul on a Nick Young flop. But was strong in his second half stint, again as the lone big out there with Cuz saddled with foul trouble. Really began working the boards, and got a follow dunk for his only hoop. Much better job as rim protector too, and by the end of the game was credited with 3blks and 3stls in Pringles' eternal scramble game. Wasn't one of our 3 best guys out there, but provided the background roleplayer work you need to translate 'Big Three" into "win". --Brick

Stats: 32min 11pts (3-8, 2-4, 3-4) 7reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Outlaw ( B ) -- you know, it is physically impossible for me to get excited about a Travis Outlaw game, but this was the sort of solid thing, where he made enough contributions not involving 2 dribbles and a midrange jumper, to stay on the floor, often as a smallball PF (and maybe his recent prominence has something to do with Vivek's positionless basketball 3.0 gimmick?). In the second quarter hit both his threes, and also found Mclemore on the break for a layin as we started to open a lead. finished a stumbling bumbling Cuz fullcourt gallop with a dunk for his third hoop. And at least for him, was providing some boardwork against his fellow smallballers from L.A.. Late int eh game that began to hurt us though, as everytiem Cuz was called away from the glass or got caught up trying to keep Hill off of it, the Lakers were sneaking in backdoor and beating Travis and the rest of the Nellieteers to the glass. I feel grade inflation kicking in here, but this is Travis Outlaw you know? And he actually but up a real NBA looking across the board statline.--Brick

Stats: 2min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Cunningham ( INC ) -- Only got 2 minutes tonight. On his first touch bringing the ball up, almost got it stripped and turned over at the half-court line, but incredibly lucky as the Refs didn't call an 8 second violation on him and he avoided actually giving the ball to the Lakers. Other than that, didn't do much. Had a good defensive sequence against Marshall, and that was that. With Ray playing good basketball his minutes were extremely limited. --Uncia
 
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Yes.
It's worth 4 wosses.

But not to beat the Lakers - to beat the Lakers FANS.
God, I can't stand those bandwagon jerkoffs, braying about their historically-favored team as if the NBA is a level playing field...
 
I ought to wash your mouth out with lye...


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DEATH TO THE MEDICI LAKERS!

Here's the difficulty right now: somewhere in a neon strip bar along Holywood Blvd, a band of Lakers fans are thanking you for beating their team and helping them rebuild. They think you did them a favor, you friendly and accommodating guy you. :p
 
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Here's the difficulty right now: somewhere in a neon strip bar along Holywood Blvd, a band of Lakers fans are thanking you for beating their team and helping them rebuild. They think you did them a favor, you friendly and accommodating guy you. :p
I would have a response to those lakers fans, which is not appropriate to this message board. Let's just say that it ends with the words, "... and the horse you rode in on!"
 
Here's the difficulty right now: somewhere in a neon strip bar along Holywood Blvd, a band of Lakers fans are thanking you for beating their team and helping them rebuild. They think you did them a favor, you friendly and accommodating guy you. :p

Oh please. There aren't bands of Laker fans anywhere around right now. They've all traded in their purple and gold for Griffin gear.
 
News tidbit: Demarcus Cousins is now 10th on the all-time Sacramento scoring list with 5,029 career points. He passed Corliss Williamson.

He accomplished the feat in only 284 career games,
 
The next few games are going to be the fun ones when watching Ray. In every sport, the story is the same. A guy comes out of nowhere and puts up huge numbers. Whether he stays or not depends on how he adjusts once A. Teams begin to actually account and gameplan for you and B. How you adjust once the league takes away one or multiple strengths.

We even saw it in the 2nd half of this game. The Lakers upped their defensive pressure on Ray and it showed in his effectiveness. I think after 17pts 4 asts 1 TO on 8/13 shooting in the 1st half, he had 10 points 1 ast, 2 TO's on 4/9 shooting in the 2nd half.
 
What I like about Ray is that he is a smart basketball player, I don't care how many shots he put up or how many assists he got, just from a eye test he is a player that has a strong understanding of the game, something that is quite common with 2nd generation players/ players who grew up around the game.
 
Here's the difficulty right now: somewhere in a neon strip bar along Holywood Blvd, a band of Lakers fans are thanking you for beating their team and helping them rebuild. They think you did them a favor, you friendly and accommodating guy you. :p
If so, I'm glad they're happy but I'm ecstatic. Great team win. This good team stuff we are seeing is worth 4 draft positions as far as I'm concerned. And I don't care if D'Antoni is stupid or not. Just plain made my day to see a Kings bunch play that way. A very important win for the Kings team of next year.
 
The rivalry was alive tonight in the arena, that's for sure. Lots of going back and forth with the LA fans. Watching them begin to walk out in droves once the Kings clinched it was oh so sweet. Especially with the crowd chanting "Sacramento" and "Beat LA" at them and waving them goodbye.

So to answer the poll question: YES.
 
Seen this on STR thought it was hilarious


I look at the Lakers and all I see is untapped potential… You have potential, you have potential...
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I do not want us to lose to the Clippers.

Kings-Clippers is a far better rivalry right now and maybe going forward for a while. You can't discount that there is now a full on ESPN article saying in no uncertain terms, and in quite eloquent detail, just how much and why Cousins hates Chris Paul. How he's the opposite of Cousins principles as a person. Its gets personal. That's the essence of a good rivalry. Good thing is the slogan transfers well. BEAT LA.

But I agree... to me now, losing to the Clippers is worse than losing to the Lakers.
 
Here's the difficulty right now: somewhere in a neon strip bar along Holywood Blvd, a band of Lakers fans are thanking you for beating their team and helping them rebuild. They think you did them a favor, you friendly and accommodating guy you. :p

Those fans weren't the ones trying to turn Sleep Train into "Staples North" last night. When the fans of any away team have the gall to start chants--much less Lakers fans--it's worth it to beat them and shut them up ;)
 
Kings-Clippers is a far better rivalry right now and maybe going forward for a while. You can't discount that there is now a full on ESPN article saying in no uncertain terms, and in quite eloquent detail, just how much and why Cousins hates Chris Paul. How he's the opposite of Cousins principles as a person. Its gets personal. That's the essence of a good rivalry. Good thing is the slogan transfers well. BEAT LA.

But I agree... to me now, losing to the Clippers is worse than losing to the Lakers.

indeed. if the kings can manage to inch their way up the everest that is the western conference, then there's a great story in the tension that's been building between the clips and the kings since last season. it's entirely dependent upon the kings becoming a respectable team, however. rivalries don't really exist between those at the top and those at the bottom...

that said, i find it's also pretty difficult to carry on with the enthusiasm of a rivalry between one bottom-feeder and another. the kings have been toiling in obscurity for awhile now, but the lakers (and their fans) have only just recently had the moxie smacked out of them by reality. bryant/howard/gasol/nash was an abject failure; dwight bolted the glitz and glamour for texas, of all places, soiling the myth that LA is where the stars go to shine the brightest. steve nash is collecting checks rather than seeking injury retirement. kobe has finally butted heads with father time... and lost. and mike d'antoni has alienated the one reliable incumbent he has in pau gasol while junk balling his way to the most embarrassing season for the lakers in, like, forty years. to pile on further, laker fans have had to choke on their "we want phil" chants as they watched the zen master ink a massive deal to become a front office executive on the opposite coast...

granted, injuries have kicked the sh** out of the lakers this season, reducing them to a collection of "who?"s. they probably should be 25-50. but their future remains rather dependent upon the bounce of the ping pong balls in the upcoming draft. re-signing kobe bryant to an enormous legacy contract has really hurt their flexibility, and there's not much of a chance that lebron james or carmelo anthony or kevin love has their sights set on the lakers in this current state, and i think everyone knows it. so they desperately need someone like andrew wiggins to boost their prospects and renew enthusiasm in their fanbase...

i can't say i'm not enjoying the fact that the lakers have sunk so mightily, and i can't say i'm not hoping for a "worst case scenario" for the lakers on draft day, but i also can't say that i get up for kings/lakers games the way i used to. the clippers, on the other hand? that's a different story. big cuz has no love for chris paul, and he's got no love for blake griffin, either. it's written on his face every time those two teams play, and the kings have managed to play the clips competitively on occasion. i honestly believe that there's league's-best-rivalry potential there. the kings just need to start playing at least .500 ball next season so that others around the nba start paying attention...
 
If anything, I'd have rather out-tanked the tanking Lakers. Their tank was so blatant, so in-your-face obvious in order to lin over their "rival" the Kings, I wouldn't have minded at all if Cousins had a hangnail and Gay had another stomach ailment. The Lakers just played Portland at home with both Gasol and Kaman, both of whom looked just fine and dandy. But away from home, and against their fierce "rival" in the ping pong ball wars , the Kings, they just happen to be out? Ridiculous. I would have liked to lin out of pure spite against those guys. Whatever they want, I don't want them to get. If the Lakers do lin out in the ping pong war and do in fact get a top 3 pick because of it, we will remember this day. If not, we probably won't remember much of anything about it.
 
Kings-Clippers is a far better rivalry right now and maybe going forward for a while. You can't discount that there is now a full on ESPN article saying in no uncertain terms, and in quite eloquent detail, just how much and why Cousins hates Chris Paul. How he's the opposite of Cousins principles as a person. Its gets personal. That's the essence of a good rivalry. Good thing is the slogan transfers well. BEAT LA.

But I agree... to me now, losing to the Clippers is worse than losing to the Lakers.
My gut reaction is ...... hell no. I love the Kings to beat anyone but to beat the Lakers when we were neck and neck like that was special.
 
On offense its still mostly dump it to Cuz and semi-open court, but I don't know if we have more than that in the playbook really, and if we ever did, we probably excised it with IT our there.

I've wondered this too. I figured Keith Smart just had them go out there and improvise so I gave the team a pass. Now I know Malone is a defensive minded coach but he seems like a smart guy and you'd think he would have implemented some sort of offense that's better than the one we have. Is it because of our players or do we just have a coaching staff that is incapable of teaching more complicated plays?

It seems like our players are forced to make plays on talent alone where the playoff teams rely heavily on well ran plays. If I had to pick a reason why, I'd say it's because our team can't complete a screen to save their lives. I mean screening is pretty elementary level stuff. The big man stands there and the ball handler runs around him shoulder to shoulder so the defender can't run through the screen and is forced to either switch or go around it. Cousins and Thompson set a lot of lazy screens. IT and McCallum (so far) are completely clueless on the art of using a screen. I shouldn't even call it art, it's common sense. They either turn around the other way or go so far around it that the defender just runs around it with them, completely nullifying the point of the screen in the first place. Until this team can learn how to properly screen, they're never going to get many open looks and they'll always have to revert to beating guys 1 on 1.
 
If anything, I'd have rather out-tanked the tanking Lakers. Their tank was so blatant, so in-your-face obvious in order to lin over their "rival" the Kings, I wouldn't have minded at all if Cousins had a hangnail and Gay had another stomach ailment. The Lakers just played Portland at home with both Gasol and Kaman, both of whom looked just fine and dandy. But away from home, and against their fierce "rival" in the ping pong ball wars , the Kings, they just happen to be out? Ridiculous. I would have liked to lin out of pure spite against those guys. Whatever they want, I don't want them to get. If the Lakers do lin out in the ping pong war and do in fact get a top 3 pick because of it, we will remember this day. If not, we probably won't remember much of anything about it.

indeed. the lakers have been going hard at this tanking thing for awhile now, and it's a bit worrisome to me that they could very well end up in the top 3 of the draft while the kings could just as easily slide out of the top 7. i think the kings certainly have something to build on, but i also think that this year's draft pick needs to be a worthy piece of the puzzle, either as a contributing player or in the yield of an eventual draft day trade. all we can do is cross our fingers that yet another "worst case scenario" doesn't present itself...
 
I have never hated the Lakers as most KingsFans do. Never. Not sure why and I doubt if it has anything to do with the fact I am from the City of Lakes for which they are named and was alive in the Mikan years. That being said, I always thought the craziness of signing Kobe to that humungous contract, signing Pau to a humungous contract, and signing Nash were craziness. Those contracts have come home to roost. For some reason I thought they would all expire at the same time perhaps when a major free agent's contract expired but they don't. Maybe they have a plan but I don't see it. Yes, they may end up with Wiggins or someone near that skill level but they will have nothing else.

Perhaps they are depending on the "luck" of LA to rebuild to a major power quite quickly but even that seems unlikely. At the risk of being banned from KF.com, I get no joy in that. Well, a little but it has more to do with their fans then their team. :)

As to the Clippers, this could be a huge and long lasting conflict that is very personal. Granted, Christie fouled Fox with an upper cut and Bibby fouled Kobe's elbow with his chin but this conflict with the Clippers seems more intense perhaps because the people fueling the conflict are very intense. Cuz, Blake, Paul - intense competitors and the "bad guys" seem to be honing the flop to a new art form. That will keep us fans a'screamin.'

I have little fear that the two teams will be seen by the outsider as equals fairly soon.
 
If anything, I'd have rather out-tanked the tanking Lakers. Their tank was so blatant, so in-your-face obvious in order to lin over their "rival" the Kings, I wouldn't have minded at all if Cousins had a hangnail and Gay had another stomach ailment. The Lakers just played Portland at home with both Gasol and Kaman, both of whom looked just fine and dandy. But away from home, and against their fierce "rival" in the ping pong ball wars , the Kings, they just happen to be out? Ridiculous. I would have liked to lin out of pure spite against those guys. Whatever they want, I don't want them to get. If the Lakers do lin out in the ping pong war and do in fact get a top 3 pick because of it, we will remember this day. If not, we probably won't remember much of anything about it.
I won't. I love the win that might make us finish higher than the Lakers. Couldn't care less whether we wind up 4th, 5th, 6th or lower in the draft. Everyone tells me there are more good players than that in the draft. And, historically, we would have been better off if we had drafted one spot lower or higher, so mox- nix.
 
machts nichts :)
Please explain yourself. In other words I don't know how or why to spell it nor where it comes from nor have I seen it written nor, as a matter fact, seen or heard it used in recent memory or forever. So any info would be appreciated.
 
Please explain yourself. In other words I don't know how or why to spell it nor where it comes from nor have I seen it written nor, as a matter fact, seen or heard it used in recent memory or forever. So any info would be appreciated.

I assume you don't know what the phrase "machts nichts" means? It means "it doesn't matter" or "never mind" in German. If I misinterpreted your post - sorry. :)
 
I assume you don't know what the phrase "machts nichts" means? It means "it doesn't matter" or "never mind" in German. If I misinterpreted your post - sorry. :)
Thanks for that. Did know what it meant but not the language it came from, therefore the above post where I used it was a lifetime first for spelling it and I did it phonetically. So thanks to you and Glenn.
 
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