[Grades] Grades v. Lakers 04/13/11

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
First of all I am proud of everybody for not giving up. That goes not just for the current Kings players. It also goes for all the fans who have kept the struggle alive since the news broke at the All Star break. It goes out to CWebb for the last ditch effort. And to anybody else who has refused to give up on this team and this franchise.

Secondly, Tyreke, WTF.

I don't know whether this is goodbye or not -- I truly believe there is still a chance for a miracle save here. But regardless, this theme will be for you, the fans of the Sacramento Kings, and 26 years of good times.

Official Boxscore

Garcia ( C+ ) -- numbers look bad, but he competed hard, in the early going of this one in particular. Showed uncommon fight on the boards, and competing hard against Kobe. Which can't be allowed of course. So Cisco got a full dose of Kobe-calls straight from the early 2000s, including committing egregious fouls with his shin when he was falling down and his cheek when he dared to ge it in the way of Kobe's elbow. Fortunately however he did not get called for the foul when Kobe missed the open dunk. That was JT. No factor in the third, and in particular took a dumb quick shot three as things fell apart as we were falling down 22. Didn't last long after fouling Kobe's elbow with his face as we were probably worried he was going to get called for a flagrant if Kobe decide to knee him in the nads. Hard to grade something like this,but deserves something just for the spirit of the thing.

Cousins ( INC ) -- final game in front of the home fans, and the refs wouldn't let him play. These refs were a real piece of work BTW. Was playing well in the early going, but getting into it with Gasol, and the tight whistles, including a ridiculous early double technical for actually trying to post up, meant he was quickly to the bench. Only played 8 first half minutes, and it hurt -- we weren't as dynamic. Back in to start the 4th and immediately made a nice crosscourt pass to Donte. But in only a few minutes had picked up his 2nd technical -- who knows why, but its the second time in two years a top Kings rookie has been thrown out of the final game of the season against the Lakers. Despite the fact we were down 20 at the time, DeMarcus maybe deserves some credit for this one though. He wasn't going to take it anymore, and his dismissal woke the crowd back up and seemed to light a major fire beneatht he rest of the team as we stormed all the way back, took the lead, and would/should have won this thing.
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Dalembert ( A ) -- and made his own closing argument for a return next year in prime fashion -- this is the stage and the opponent, and he showed he w more than up to the challenge. Competing from the very beginning, but was another guy getting called for some ticky tack fouls. Relentless around the offensive glass all night although went through some dry spells finishing. Came up with a number of good blocks, none bigger than the one on Gasol in the mid 4th as we cut the lead to 8 and the comeback was in full swing. Offensive board after offensive board as we got the lead down to 4.

Thornton ( A ) -- given how much he's shown he loves the big moment since he arrived in Sacto, why not the big game (at least for the Kings)? Got off to the explosive start, just very quick and aggressive and beating everybody they threw at him inside and out. But then suddenly went as cold as he had been hot, and adter 15pts in the first 10 minutes or so, missed and missed and only got one more basket before half. Created shots for his teammates off the drive in the early third, and started to get his shots to fall again. But as the Lakers began puling away there was soem scruffy 1 on 1ness to it as he puylled up for contested threes and dribbled them in. Tried to draw a foul on a three at the end of the third and again took it too quick, giving the Lakers another shot before the end of the quarter. Then the 4th quarter rolled around, and we went to our three guard, and Reke had to take the opposing SFs because of size, and so Thronton ended up in a 1 on 1 duel with Kobe after he retruned to the game. And he rose to the occasion, seemingly to small for the job but very very competitive and byt the stretch run was getting the better of it as Kobe missed contested shots while Marcus was making plays. Picked off a sloppy pass and hit the layup to make it 2. Knifed past Odom to tie it at the 2:00 mark. But in the end Kobe finally got him, as he was beat on Kobe's game tying three with 5 seconds to go, and his game winning attempt at the buzzer was blocked from behind by Kobe. Then OT came around...and well, the OT result was all about the next guy I am grading here. Marcus was largely frozen out, both by Kobe face guarding him and denying the ball, and by his own teammate. This is still an A -- huge game in a huge setting, went toe to toe with the #6 scorer of all time without blinking. Let's just get all these guys back next year, upgrade that SF spot, and give this a full season of go. We're ready to be good already.
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Evans ( D ) -- Tyreke Tyreke Tyreke Tyreke...you went to all the trouble of coming back, of saying you would not miss this game, to play like THAT? Almost need 2 grades here. One for the regulation that was a C of some sort, and then one for the OT which was just an epic epic Fail to give all of his detractors a chubby and all the ammunition they could ask for going off into the summer. Played an uncomfortable looking regulation that was better than it is being credit for -- there are two sides to the ball, and there was no doubt Reke was fired up and wanted this one. He was hustling about as hard as we have seen him on defense, and repeatedly faced down Ron Artest (Artest is far from unstoppable offensively anymore, but he thrives on power mismatches, and found out tonight he did not have one). But that same eagerness was causing problems all night long on the other side. Was pressing from the beginning of the game. For a while the physical defense against Artest adn hustle was balancing it, but you could just see how out of rhtyhm he was right from the opening tip. Drives when he should have passed. Jumpers when he should have drove. Gave us a little burst before halftime, scoring inside and out, as we closed the gap and made a game of it, and you were hoping maybve that would get him going, but just could not sustain anything positive. Dropped a nice spin drive and dish to Cousins for a dunk in the mid third, but then as the wheels came off for us followed with a terrible fastbreak decision not passing the ball on a 3-1 and committing the offensive foul. This is the same play he was running correctly two weeks ago, but tonight the bad habits were all back. Added a pair of missed FTs as the Lakers lead stretched toward 20. Gave us a little lift in the early 4th with some energy and defense out on the court, but still was just unable to get anything inside. He was there to help our huge comeback, knocking down a jumper and folowing with a drive to cut it to 4, but after making you wince with a quick pullup hero three to try to take the lead, he disappeared down the regulation stretch. And if we could have just defended that final Kobe heave better he could have stayed disappeared and we would just be talking about him not having a great game to finish things. Unfortunately it went to OT and he got a BAD case of the heroes. Given setting, way the game had gone etc., easily his worst. It was bad enough it almost seemed pointed, which would be a bigger concern than if he just got dumb. But in any case, he was determined to take every shot. He drew a foul to start and hit the FTs, but then shot and shot and shot again. And missed and missed and missed again. If you're Kobe you are teflon and can do that. If you are hitting everything you can do that and be called clutch. When you are ice cold, your teammate has 33, and it may be the last big game the entire city sees for a long time, you can't do that. But he did. And in the process loaded the guns of detractors for a nice offseason of Reke shooting. Not the way to go out, and I'm sure not the way that played out in his head the night before.
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Bench

Thompson ( A- ) -- did not respond in his early minutes, giving us no points and no rebs in his first 7 minutes of action. Finally hit a long jumper in the mid 2nd and began to work into things. Came up huge in the second half as Cousins foul trouble + ejection meant big minutes. Really nice pass off the full speed dribble in the paint to Thornton to get it to 10. Was the recipeint of the dunk to take the lead. Some great offenive tips as he and Dalembert pounded the Lakers on the glass.

Udrih ( B ) -- was playing some notably good defense, and he and Tyreke out there together were quite effective getting back and stopping the Lakers in transition. But nothing on the other end in the early going. Just never any sort of factor in the first 3/4 of the game and had something like 4pts 4ast heading into the 4th. But made up for it late. His insertion in the 3-guard helped stabilize our offense and began our turnaround. As we mounted our charge kept on coming up with the long loose d-rebs and pushing it up and finding the right guys. Was the guy the Lakers were forced to foul in the final seconds, and drained both clutch FTs before Kobe hit his dagger. Was out there in OT but his stay out of the way of the stars mentality, which has been incredibly useful, probably worked against us there s he kept on passing the ball over to Reke no matter how many times he shot it/demonstrated that he was going to shoot it. Would have been kind of handy for the sidelines to actually call out a play and have had Beno execute it sometime in there.
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Greene ( C ) -- got out on the break after Reke helped stop the Lakers break and came up with the ball and put some mustard on the big reverse dunk -- last year Westphal benched him for something similar, but in this game you gotta let him do that. UNfortunately it would be his only hit of the night, and while he had good energy and was not awful, he did not get much else done out there.
 
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Casspi ( INC ) -- in the game in the 2nd and immediately forced an airballed three. Was gone a couple of minutes later as the Lakers lead ballooned.
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Jackson ( INC ) -- a few minutes at the end of the first half.

Lesser quality, but in case the first one gets pulled again:
Mirror 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Y7t4vlKt0
Mirror 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTnq91tOAsI




And if this is it, to all of you who may not return, this is an internet goodbye. I never knew you, not really, but its been a blast having you around.

This is Bricklayer, Sacramento Kings fan, signing off.
 
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First of all I am proud of everybody for not giving up. That goes not just for the current Kings players. It also goes for all the fans who have kept the struggle alive since the news broke at the All Star break. It goes out to CWebb for the last ditch effort. And to anybody else who has refused to give up on this team and this franchise.

Secondly, Tyreke, WTF.

I don't know whether this is goodbye or not -- I truly believe there is still a chance for a miracle save here. But regardless, this theme will be for you, the fans of the Sacramento Kings, and 26 years of good times.

Official Boxscore

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He tried a lot of one on one stuff at the end of the game and not only missed but missed an easy one. Also, on a three on one fast break he had the ball going up the middle and instead of passing probably to the right he simply plowed into the defender for an offensive foul. I am a Reke supporter and thought he used awful judgment. No concept that anyone was on the floor but him. For the first time I am beginning to take some of the Reke compaints on this forum seriously. I am not sure you can teach the type of judgment he seems to lack. It seems quite simple: pass the damn ball. It is not like the rest of the team is incompetent.
 
Very true, im going to put it down to the injury. There were parts where he wasnt agressive at all and just defered the ball and times when the game was on the line where he tried to take over. He was out of sync indeed.

Id like to thank JT and Marcus for there efforts in leading our comback. Both get As from me. JT has done great this season as our energy guy, filling in the void as our first big off the bench. Marcus well wow we need to sign that man to an extension
 
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Well, can't say that wasn't an incredibly fitting ending to the Sac Kings era (assuming it is the end *knocks on wood*). Awesomely entertaining game, though. God I love this team.
 
Tyreke FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF -------------------------. Don`t put it down to injury again. This is just his game. He can not shoot jumpers and he is dribbling into traffic, not giving the ball on the fastbreaks...otherwords: OVERRATED!
 
Tyreke F. F. F. F. F. He should get an F for the whole season just because of tonight. Tonight he played like a selfish **** who refused to pass and proved that he is one of the worst shooting (as in outside shooting) guards in the league. Exaggerating? Perhaps. But he was solely responsible for killing us in OT. PASS THE DAMN BALL TO SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY HIT A SHOT!

I feel sorry for Marcus Thornton. He was repeatedly ignored by Tyreke and didn't even get to touch the ball much in OT. Good job Tyreke Evans, I hope you become MVP next year just like Rose and have the world talking about how great you are, because frankly this season you sucked.
 
I feel sorry for Marcus Thornton. He was repeatedly ignored by Tyreke and didn't even get to touch the ball much in OT. Good job Tyreke Evans, I hope you become MVP next year just like Rose and have the world talking about how great you are, because frankly this season you sucked.

Thornton brought this team back. Tyreke ignored him so he could get the ball taken away or launch horrible 25 ft fadaways. The difference between Thornton (a player) and Reke (a ballhogging talent) was staggering tonight. Thornton only kept the ball as long as he needed to. Tyreke loves to hear the sound of that ball dribble.
 
Thornton brought this team back. Tyreke ignored him so he could get the ball taken away or launch horrible 25 ft fadaways. The difference between Thornton (a player) and Reke (a ballhogging talent) was staggering tonight. Thornton only kept the ball as long as he needed to. Tyreke loves to hear the sound of that ball dribble.

The main issue is to play unselfishly. Tyreke Evans should know by now that he is far far far from Kobe Bryant or Ray Allen or any great shooter. He's a second year player, not having a very good year and a horrible shooter to begin with. Yet he insisted on not trying to get Thornton the ball, on hoisting up ill advised jumpshots, on not passing on the break. We could have won this game in an amazing fashion. Tyreke was a large part of the reason why we didn't, and that's that.

I've been a huge supporter of Tyreke, but if there ever will be a time to criticize him for not passing the ball, this is it. I'm putting my thoughts of superstar Tyreke away for now. Let's see him learn to shoot and pass before we ever compare him to the likes of Lebron and Kobe again.

If you were Dalembert, JT, Beno and especially Thornton, imagine how pissed you would be with Tyreke. I know I would be. I already get pissed when guys screw up this badly in pickup games, let alone on a huge stage with thousands of fans watching one of the most meaningful games that they'll play in their career (to the fans at least).
 
Look, I love to bash Tyreke as much as the next guy but honestly, this game and the ultimate result of it is an afterthought to the night as a whole. I know losing is always exclusively our team's fault but Captain ***hole did kind of go insane and bomb a 30 foot three pointer and then subsequently took over overtime.
 
Look, I love to bash Tyreke as much as the next guy but honestly, this game and the ultimate result of it is an afterthought to the night as a whole. I know losing is always exclusively our team's fault but Captain ***hole did kind of go insane and bomb a 30 foot three pointer and then subsequently took over overtime.

But that's kind of to be expected. People are always saying how Kobe is overrated and all, but from what I've seen he is definitely one of the all time greats, and the fact is that even after Kobe went crazy we still had a chance to win, or to at least put up a fight. The team put together a very respectable effort in regulation, all I'm saying is that ultimately Tyreke lost this one for us in OT. OT was horrible.
 
But that's kind of to be expected. People are always saying how Kobe is overrated and all, but from what I've seen he is definitely one of the all time greats, and the fact is that even after Kobe went crazy we still had a chance to win, or to at least put up a fight. The team put together a very respectable effort in regulation, all I'm saying is that ultimately Tyreke lost this one for us in OT. OT was horrible.

Although one could make the argument that his teammates weren't exactly doing their utmost best to get open some of the times. That may also be more of a playcalling issue than anything else, did not see us making an attempt to free up Marcus in OT at all.
 
Although one could make the argument that his teammates weren't exactly doing their utmost best to get open some of the times. That may also be more of a playcalling issue than anything else, did not see us making an attempt to free up Marcus in OT at all.

Overall yes, the Lakers really defended well and prevented Thornton from being open, but there were still times where Tyreke could have given him the ball. If Tyreke was like attacking or something, getting fouled then alright I wouldn't be happy but at least he's doing something he's good at. Instead he decided to go for fadeaway jumpshots, quick 3s ... and really what can you say about not passing on the break?

There were many contributing factors to this horrible loss. Refs, Kobe etc. But I don't really like pinning the blame on them because we were in the game, we were right there with a chance to win. One person ended up taking all the shots, and that one person is a horrible shooter. It may have been the play-calling as well, but I wouldn't know. What I do know is that Tyreke hurt us big time, and well I may be putting too much blame on him but this loss sucks.

I don't live in SAC, the only place I've ever been in the USA is Orlando. But I wanted this game for all you fans living there, and it just really really really sucks to have been that close only to lose in such a ughh fashion in OT.
 
Look, I love to bash Tyreke as much as the next guy but honestly, this game and the ultimate result of it is an afterthought to the night as a whole. I know losing is always exclusively our team's fault but Captain ***hole did kind of go insane and bomb a 30 foot three pointer and then subsequently took over overtime.

No, not really. JT was doing everything right; hustle, tips, putbacks, good defense, boardwork. Thornton was doing his own version of Kobe. Beno was moving the ball solidly and gave it to people who could produce. Sammy D was moving his feet and staying big. Also hit shots that surprised me. That leaves the guy who could never quite jump over peopel to begin with, playing on his delicate injured ankles, allowing all his inside shots to be blocked or wild as hell. That would leave him his patented [fadaway] jumpshot. That, or running over notorious flopper Fish when you are on a 3-1 and have longer guys who can finish better than you. But sure, it was a team loss.

And yeah, if I were on that team, I would be pissed as hell at Tyreke.
 
I agree with all of you that think Tyreke is to blame. The guy wants to be hero and its not working. Doesn't he get it or does he not care? The guy just ball hogged and put up some stupid shots/driving plays. Does the coaching staff even tell him to cool it? Its obvious that the team has been riding on Marcus' back since he joined the team. Will Tyreke be able to play with MT in the future and put egos aside?
 
mac says he doesn't wish to put the blame on anybody and I don't either. We were 20 points down in the fourth quarter and forced a tie. Typically the hot team cools and the cool team comes back or regains the lead. That typical ebb and flow occurred. But as to Reke, I don't know. I am not going to blast him yet I would put together a DVD that included the overtime period and have him watch it over the summer. I don't know how he would have handled the game if Cousins had been in. He wasn't as familiar with Thornton as any other player. Last year he was encouraged to do exactly what he did except for that fast break.

He has the ultimate confidence in his ability to get to the rim and that is being taken from him because the whole NBA knows what he is going to do.

He is a great athlete. That's a good start. I think he has the makings of a very good jump shot as he is very strong. I think that will come as his mechanics seem improved. His feet and ankles may force him to become something different than what he is trying to be now and that won't be easy. I hope over the next few years he learns. I'm certainly willing to wait.

I wanted a fairybook ending. If this is the last game here, what would have been better than to beat LA? I suppose some people will blame Reke for ruining the fairybook ending but I'm not going to.

Note the difference between the ability of Tyreke to learn and Cousins. Wow.


Ah, a note was added. Tyreke has been asked to be the hero for a long time now. Whether he thinks this is what he is supposed to do and whether it is selfishness is not absolutely clear to me. His basketball iQ is not high. He doesn't get "it."
 
I'm glad Tyreke is (finally) becoming vulnerable to KF's criticism (as a whole).
He is showing HUGE danger signs of simply not getting NBA basketball, and proving that he is incapable of learning what it takes to excel in this league.

Between his chronic injuries, his horrendous decision-making which reveals pathological selfishness, and his inability to finish the vast majority of the time, Tyreke has revealed to the league that he is NOT what he was perceived to be in his 1st year.
He MAY be able to recover from this catastrophic drop-off during the length of his career, but there is one guarantee - he will HAVE to change, and vastly improve, if he's going to become the superstar that he has been projected to be.
 
Tyreke definitely f****** up in OT last night. I'm not sure though where the majority of the blame goes. Yes, he forced shots he simply shouldn't have. I was screaming at my tv to get it to Thornton. But, they did run Thornton off a few screens, and Kobe had him completely locked up. Have to find a way to get him open.

And this is where I question Westy. Was Tyreke breaking off plays to go one on one, or was he just running the plays Westy called? Was Westy calling plays to get Thornton open, and Kobe just played great lockdown defense, or did Tyreke break off from the play too early? Did Westy take Thornton out of the game by not calling structured plays which will get him the ball, did Kobe take Thornton out of the game with great lockdown defense, or did Tyreke take Thornton out of the game by just going into his solo act?

A coach has to take responsibility for not getting Thornton shots after he absolutely exploded in the 4th, and was the main reason we made it to OT. As a pg, Tyreke needs to take responsibility for Thornton not getting shots in OT. But I saw a fair amount of selfish plays from Tyreke last night, not including OT. The 3 on 1 break stands out the most with Thornton wide open on his right, and Reke forced i and picked up a charge. I really don't know what was going through Tyreke;s head last night, but there were a number of occasions where he simply made the wrong decision, and it was both selfish and blatant.
 
I really hope Tyreke recovers from just a terrible TURRIBLE season that he had. Such a bust considering all the hype we gave to him before the seaon started.
 
I am still a HUGE Tyreke supporter, be it Sacramento or Anaheim. dudes a beast had a rough sophomore season. not a shocker fans want to write him off so quickly. I hope that is just emotions speaking. we need more talent on this team.
 
I am still a HUGE Tyreke supporter, be it Sacramento or Anaheim. dudes a beast had a rough sophomore season. not a shocker fans want to write him off so quickly. I hope that is just emotions speaking. we need more talent on this team.

I really think this is what it is. I was at the game last night and I was fuming from Tyreke's mistakes. He was being very very selfish and playing stupid basketball. He does have a ways to go to be a complete player but Kobe didn't become Kobe overnight either. Tyreke has to work hard at his game to be what we all think he can be. If you have the right mindset, it takes MAJOR failure like last night, for someone to work hard enough to make sure that never happens again.
 
This team is playing better basketball without Tyreke! Beno has proved this year that he can play as starting PG in this league. Maybe his defense was not on the right level, but all other things he is doing are on the right place. His mature play, ball movement, great FG %, coldblood freethrow shooting when the game is on the wire and most important-he was steady all year long! Thornton on SG position is fixed. I would trade Tyreke (if somebody would take him) for great veteran SF! Cousins and Dalembert + Thompson from the bench look very good last month or two. Garcia, Green, Jeter are good bench production...I know Tyreke should be next Jesus Christ of basketball on this team, but IMHO he is not and will not be what everybody expected to be.
 
This team is playing better basketball without Tyreke! Beno has proved this year that he can play as starting PG in this league. Maybe his defense was not on the right level, but all other things he is doing are on the right place. His mature play, ball movement, great FG %, coldblood freethrow shooting when the game is on the wire and most important-he was steady all year long! Thornton on SG position is fixed. I would trade Tyreke (if somebody would take him) for great veteran SF! Cousins and Dalembert + Thompson from the bench look very good last month or two. Garcia, Green, Jeter are good bench production...I know Tyreke should be next Jesus Christ of basketball on this team, but IMHO he is not and will not be what everybody expected to be.

So at the age of 22 years old, Tyreke will never get better?
 
I am still a HUGE Tyreke supporter, be it Sacramento or Anaheim. dudes a beast had a rough sophomore season. not a shocker fans want to write him off so quickly. I hope that is just emotions speaking. we need more talent on this team.

Not here. I have always called Tyreke's skills and abilities like they are if you cared enough to go through my post history. He can be great, but so can a lot of other players. He hasn't shown he has what it takes. The only difference is that a lot more people are agreeing with me after this last selfish game he had. Tyreke has had a teflon coat around here for far too long. People give him his age (which I don't), they liek to project him as a hall of famer due to his stats (extrapolated, which i refuse to do). They say it's good he can't jump because it risks more injury (bs). Well look here, Tyreke rolls his ankles over and over. Tyreke is just another young gun, who could just as easily fall into an also ran as make headlines as a possible HOF. It's all mental at this stage.

You still bothered by the ankle? Toughing it out? Loss some lift off your already mediocre explosiveness? Fine, just don't expect to put up layups over Pau and Odom. Get in there, dish out to your on fire teammates.
 
This team is playing better basketball without Tyreke! Beno has proved this year that he can play as starting PG in this league. Maybe his defense was not on the right level, but all other things he is doing are on the right place. His mature play, ball movement, great FG %, coldblood freethrow shooting when the game is on the wire and most important-he was steady all year long! Thornton on SG position is fixed. I would trade Tyreke (if somebody would take him) for great veteran SF! Cousins and Dalembert + Thompson from the bench look very good last month or two. Garcia, Green, Jeter are good bench production...I know Tyreke should be next Jesus Christ of basketball on this team, but IMHO he is not and will not be what everybody expected to be.
No its really not. And I am sorry if that means your player has to come off the bench. But enough is enough really. Tyreke got very very dumb in the OT of this one. He did not play a very good game before that either. And yet there we were -- we had the Lakers BEAT, jsut as we have had any number of the top teams beat this year. Its right there now. And no, we aren't going to be clearing out huge young talents for Beno's sake.
 
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