[Grades] Grades v. Knicks 11/17/10

Most positive development from this game?

  • Cousins arrives in force

    Votes: 22 35.5%
  • Landry looks to have put aside early season malaise

    Votes: 5 8.1%
  • Donte Green returns, and helps

    Votes: 27 43.5%
  • We showed we can play defense...for a quarter

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • We finally fed the post, again and again

    Votes: 5 8.1%
  • Jason Thompson really IS a SF. Really. Uh huh.

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Another game another loss...and yet if you watched this game rather than just read the boxscores there were a lot of interesting and promising developments. Unfortunately by the time those developments come to fruition we will have entirely passed out of this soft part of our schedule and have to be getting better playing L.A. and Miami every night.

A funny thing happened tonight: we dominated the first quarter with defense and post play and then lost the game, as well as the defensive thread, in the second quarter. Who were the primary players on the floor during that span? Basically our early season starters, many of whom were now coming off the bench. It was Beno and Omri and Carl and Cousins and Cisco, and they just got lit up like a pinball machine. Odd the correlation there.

I'll dig back into my bag of tricks for another theme, but I wish this team would just get over this and start winning some games. I'm going to be out of ideas by Christmas.

You know, its not only the losses piling up that is draining my bag of themes, its Westphal's nutty rotations running through all 12 guys on many nights. Have a number of 9-10 option themes thought up, relatively few with a full dozen. So tonight I'll go with one appropriate to the tiresome Tyreke debates: The History of Supersize PGs

Offical Boxscore

Postgame Quotes

Thompson ( D+ ) -- kind of a "well what did you expect?" game after Westphal started him at F, against a long range bomber no less. That is just so many shades of duh its hard to comprehend. May have been at "SF" but still went right to the post to start and for a few minutes it looked like the duh might actually work out. But ended up picking up a couple of his normal loose fouls as a starter, and never returned for the remainder of the half despite doing vaguely ok, and despite us getting whipped on defense again in the 2nd quarter. Never did anything after the break. Would have become the 2nd Kings PF to crash into Gallinari for 3 Fts -- one of the penalties of playing PFs at SF -- but luckily Gallinari had a toe on the line so it was only 2 FTs. Still refused to play him at PF even when Landry had to go out late, opting to go back to the totally ineffective Darnell Jackson instead. I have no idea what drugs Westphal has been using that explains some of these roster decisions, but I don't want any, thx. This grade is a real reach. There was not much to grade, and Jason never should have been in that position anyway.

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The Big O (6'5") -- there is some irony to fans of this franchise of all franchises being shocked at the concept of a 6'5" PG, as we are in fact the franchise that more or less invented the beast. HOF PG Oscar Robertson was considered by many to be the most dominant guard of all time until Jordan came along, and while it was a radically different era his stats in his extended prime might be the most impressive of all time, Wilt being his only rival:
Age 22: 30.5pts (.473FG% .822FT%) 10.1reb 9.7ast
Age 23: 30.8pts (.478FG% .803FT%) 12.5reb 11.4ast
Age 24: 28.3pts (.518FG% .810FT%) 10.4reb 9.5ast
Age 25: 31.4pts (.483FG% .853FT%) 9.9reb 11.0ast
Age 26: 30.4pts (.480FG% .839FT%) 9.0reb 11.5ast
Age 27: 31.3pts (.475FG% .842FT%) 7.7reb 11.1ast
Age 28: 30.5pts (.493FG% .873FT%) 6.2reb 10.7ast
Age 29: 29.2pts (.500FG% .873FT%) 6.0reb 9.7ast


Landry ( A- ) -- and here is the first of several bright points we had in what was otherwise another frustrating loss. Mandry is back, and displaying the dangers of the internet -- when you jump out and say really terrible things about somebody, they never go away, even when that person is back in your good graces. For Carl a major part of the improvement has been as simple as scrapping the garbage jumpshooting game and just going into the paint and attacking. And we as a team did a much better job this game of focusing on feeding the post as well right from the beginning of the game. Carl went right inside from the opening tip and was scrapping for boards, dropping some nifty post moves, including the one that I used int hat little video I made a couple of months ago, and generally taking on all comers. Of course all comers in this case was just the Knicks frontline, but still. There were a couple of little settle jumpers, but he never became trapped y it and soon returned to the paint. Got out saavied by Gallinari (and the NBA's ridiculous interpretation of the rule) when he left his feet to contest a three and Gallinari jumped sideways into him to draw the foul. Late int eh game got clobbered and lost a contact, and got knocked out of the air again on a flying drive -- but those are the good things. Very physical effort, and that's what you are hoping for out of a PF. On the other end rarely had to guard anybody more formidable than Rony Turiaf, so while he was part of the crew that really lost control of any semblance of defense during the Knicks' 40pt 2nd quarter, he was not a primary issue this time. Abruptly is playing well for us, but slowed down as the game went along and not a factor down the stretch.
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Anfernee Hardaway (6'7") -- a picture above of one possible model for our future. I always thought Penny was overrated back in his brief prime, but he was still a 4x All Star (the 4th just because fans are idiots) and 2x All NBA player as the little to Shaq's big. His efficiency took a gigantic hit when the big dope left Orlando to go star in Kazaam, but of course the real killer was the rapid disintegration of his knees. Let's hope our eventual fate is far kinder than Orlando's.

Dalembert ( C- ) -- in a not so encouraging sign for the first time since he started getting major minutes Daly really wasn't able to have much effect out there for us, and was held to very short minutes with Cousins surging. Not many early highlights, but was anchoring our superior defensive start. However in the third was not able to handle Amare's quickness and was quickly replaced and saw little action thereafter. Its a common problem with junkballing system's like D'Antoni's -- its poison to the Dalemberts of the world. Those systems give them nobody to guard, and if your center can't hurt them on the offensive end you're playing 4 on 5. That's where a guy like Cousins fits perfectly -- the defensive specialist big has trouble with smallball, but the offensive power player destroys them.
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Jason Kidd (6'4") -- people forget that Jason Kidd is 6'4" tall. A pure PG to be sure, but would he even be a starter if he were 6'1" 165lbs? The great size for a PG has been a major factor in his dominance as a defender, a rebounder, the triple doubles, and the eventual HOF nod.

Head ( B ) -- of the two changes to the starting lineup, I thought the move to start Head in there alongside Reke in place of Beno was the less radical. We don't have any perfect fits for that position, and Head's defense had earned him a large chunk of Beno's minutes the game before. We should not be starting Luther Head, but so often the guys who start next to superstar level guards are very marginal individual players. Derek Fisher, Carlos Arroyo, Marco Bellinelli all say hi. Still, there was a risk, namely to our already struggling offense. In the early going the risk paid off, we played our best defensive quarter of the season, and Head was a significant part of that, ploggin our biggest hole and providing a big burst of energy for a crew that has often come out flat. Added in a nice nice baseline drive to squirt it up to just beat the 24 sec clock, and whiel the offense was not prolific, it felt a little bit clarified. We had a general purpose (pot when possible, else let Reke do his thing), and clear cut #1 and #2 options in Reke and Landry. Head was not responsible for the defensive collapse in the second which featured certain alternative personnel. He got off to a good start to the third, knocking down at two and a three and added a nice drive slashing to the rim. But unlike the first quarter it wasn't working for us as a team after half. We weren't strangling them on defense, and the offense was quickly stagnating with no ball movement at all, leading Beno to play much of the rest of the way -- we had gotten what we could out of the Head gimmick. It worked for a while though, and I would not be surprised at all to see us try it again.
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Gary Payton (6'4") -- the pic above is how he's always going to be remembered, completely fearless, psychotic even, an intimidator at what is normally the smallest/weakest position the court. Its hard to talk about 6'4" Kidd without also talking about his 6'4" partner in crime, Its probably no coincidence that the two most dominant PGs of their era were also two of the biggest, and two of the best defenders of the position of all time.
 
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Evans ( C+ ) -- well the numbers were there for this one, we had the obligatory handful of spectacular plays, but it was less satisfying than many similar efforts have been. Part of that might be that his game was unusually jumper heavy again -- you can see it in the lack of FTs -- and he still does not hit that consistently (like many I'm wondering if the ankles might not be having an effect there) and part of it is Tyreke having one of his shakiest 4th quarter stretch runs that I can recall. Was on and off in the early going, with much of the off being when he was still tenataive and just settled for a jumper. There were more sporadic attempts to work him in the post against Fields, who's full sized, but it wasn't a dedicated attack, in particular with all the postups we were running for the bigs. Kept having little surges of brilliance scattered amongst patches of indifferent play. Had his New York moment with a brilliant drive that he even seemed to be surprised by, and came up with a nice move but missed the layup to close the first half. Started the third with a nifty off the bank floater, but again just nto able to sustain any long term birlliance. Also was getting into a bad habit of just flat out settling for long threes. The dark side of confidence I suppose, but a one on one jumpshot is the worst shot in basketball. It creates nothing for teammates, and either goes in or not. If not, you shouldn't be taking them. Again surged for a bit in the 4th, but then the swath of bad decisions cropped up. Again settled for a bad three at a critical time. Got lost ona defensive switch, and then compounded it by being lazy about chalengeing I think it was Gallinari on a little 16 foot shot along the baseline. Made 2 very bad plays with fewer than 2:00 to go, on the first one throwing up a bizarrely casual ugly flip thing that looked like he just gave up, and on the second getting out on the break jumping into the air and trying to kick the ball over his right shoulder to Beno...without looking. Except Beno had already turned to go back on defense and the ball was turned over. Came back with a layup and then a near meanignless three in the last 30 seconds, but the damage had been done with us still clinging to hope at that point. Its a tough argument to say that Reke lost this game for us given the productivity and this little stat: Reke had the highest +/- on the team, and in nearly 42minutes with him on the floor we beat the Knicks by 7 points. The game was lost in the 6+ minutes with him off the floor when we got outscored by 14. Again we floundered without him. But its certainly fair to say that the game was still winnable in the stretch, and our best player didn't step up to win it this time.
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Michael Ray Richardson (6'5") -- a legendary screwup, Michael Ray was one of the league's best PGs, a do it all stat stuffer and 4x All-Star in the early 80s, until he destroyed his career with cocaine and general stupidity.

Bench

Cousins ( B+ ) -- another real bright point to this game in ways that are just not going to show up in an inefficient boxcore line of 5-15FG with 5 TOs. Was just wonderfully aggressive, and for the first time this season we used him again and again on that left block and ran the offense through him for extended stretches. And he was making plays of all kinds. It was despite the inefficiency the game where you could most clearly see what he could look like once he is all grown up, and it remians a tantalizing vision. Came in with the quick JT foul trouble, and made a couple of good defensive plays -- another real positive has been how much more settled his defense has begun to look -- and then powered his way through Amare in the post. Followed that with a J, then dropped a nifty pass to a cutting Omri too. Played so much better defensively, in fact really faring better than Daly against Amare, and in what I think might be literally the first time since we've seen him in Summer League, training camp, or the first 10 g7ames of this season, he avoided foul trouble. Amazing what a difference that makes. He was able to settle in and just play. Badly smushed on several inside shots , but kept battling. That might be the one downside to this performance -- for all hsi aggression andpower, hsi below the rim game had him getting met and blcoked again and again inside. And whiel the TOs will disappear as he matures and gains expereince, the hops probably aren't going to come, so his game may always be more Moses Malone than Shaq. Throw i up, get it blocked or mssed, grab the rebound, miss or blocked gain, grab the rebound and finally finish it. Came up with something you jsut don't see in the 4th -- a center with a behind the back move on the drive? ridiculous. Followed with a drop step and dropoff pass to Landry, which is something else that 6'11" 270lb+ guys don't do. Logged heavy minutes for him, looked tired late but Westpahl kept riding his hot play and only gave him a few breathers. Treated him like a star in oter words. But may not have had the oomph down the stretch ths time. Got blocked at the rim at a critical stage of crunchtime and should have gotten a tech fior wildly flailing his arm, but the refs didn't want to decide this one I think. This grade is too high given the stats, but you know what? Who cares. The kid was on and off brilliant, and he played the game pretty much the way we hope he's going to be playing it 10 years from now. With any luck the efficiency will come. But the talent and aggressiveness and our willingness to run things through him were all there tonight.
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Ron Harper (6'7") -- of course not truly a PG, early in his career Harper was a near 20-5-5 Sg himself until his knees began to fall apart. But Chciago knew he was still a remarkable talent, and he had one of the more successful late career shifts in NBA history, being brought in to play the PG next to MJ and Pippen, and going on to win 5 titles with the Bulls and Lakers in that role, and helping key one of the most impossibly strong defensive backcourts of all time with three 6'6"/6'7" guys smothering everybody and everything during the second Bulls threepeat.

Casspi ( D ) -- in with the quick JT foul trouble to give us a more conventional look, but did nothing to reestablish confidence and again may have had I want the ball issues. Reke ignored him at the 3pt line and he again picked up a quick foul on the other end on Gallinari. Was part of the defenseless crew that lost control of the Knicks in the second quarter, and then played little afterwards with Donte showing his merit. In for the final minute with us needing shooters, and foolishly fouled Fields in the open court to give the Knicks freepoints when we still theoretically had a chance.
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Magic (6'9") -- yeah, some fat guy named "Earvin". What sort of name is Earvin? Why not just call yourself Erkel? Played with some old bald dude on a second rate franchise back in the valley girl era.

Jackson ( D ) -- gave us almsot nothing this time out. No boards, no offense, again settlgin for long jumeprs, but did have a mini-hihglight as he came in and set a BIG big backcourt clean out your sinuses screen. It owuld eb the only reason not to give an F here given all those zeroes in the boxscore, but Darnell was just irrelevant rather than actually hurting us, so I'll bump this all the way to a flashy D.
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Reggie Theus (6'7") -- notice how much trimmer, not to mention more oily our former player is than the franchise down to the south? An ironic story, despite high assist numbers throughout his career, Theus's rep was as a sticky fingered SG who you had to pry the ball away from. So what to do? Make him a PG of course. Only way you could make him pass. And in the Kings' early years in Sacramento not only was he playing at PG, he was putting up great numbers, nearly going 18 and 10 one season all while playing his trademark non defense. Thsi franchise may have more hsitory of big PGs than any other in fact.
 
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Udrih ( C+ ) -- this was a tale of two halves game for Beno. In the first half, it appeared that maybe he was sulking off the bench, at the very least he was doing absolutely nothing and making a very poor case for himself as he led the team during the Knicks blitzkrieg of the second quarter. Was being heavily pressured by Toney Douglas upon taking over at the point and needed screens to help free him up. And the defensive effort could be typified by a terrible play when both he and Landry, two of our vets, came together for a terrible defensive mistake, both following the roller and leading Douglas open for a wide open three. That's just embarrassing pickup level struff and looks like you aren't being coached. But for all the nothingness of the first half, came back with much better impact after returning in the thrid, as he picked up the ball movement of a moribund offense. Makes you wonder if Westphal gave him an inspirational quit sucking speech at a halftime. His energy seeme dup, and he even got back on defense to take a charge from Amare on the break. Part of a good defensive sequence to stop the Knicks on the final shot of the 3rd too. Did much of his damage in the 4th, althought it was far from perfect. Started the 4th hitting a little stop and pop...but then beat back the other way. Bricked another open three...bad pass turnover...etc. Went up for a board and collided with Amare catching an elbow in the face that knocked him down for his trouble. Airballed a short baseline jumper down the stretch, then got called for a loose ball foul grabbing Turiaf. But made plays in the final minutes, hitting a three on a called play with us down 9, then getting out on the break with a layup to make it 4 with 2:00 to go. Made a good defensive play to force a Knicks turnover with them up 6 and 25 seconds to go. Gave us a theoreticlal chance, but we could not take it. This is a tough grade due to the half to half discrepancy, but I could go no higher here given that I think the game was pretty much lost on his watch in the second quarter. A full game of his second half effort would be nice though.
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Steve Smith (6'7") -- it was the tail end of the Magic Johnson era (the fta guy pictured above) and everybody was looking for the next Magic. So when 6'7" Steve Smith arrvied in the league they tried to make him a PG. he enver had the instincts though, and was really a jumpshooter, not aslasher capable of creating for others. When he was traded to Atlanta after his third season they moved him to SG and that's where he played the rest of his career.

Cisco ( D ) -- I have relatively few notes on this one. Here's the one that matters: Cisco sucked. I ahve no idea why. He just gave us nothing out there. Did not look good in his second quart minutes, hit a couple of shots, but missed others, fumbled balls, and the defense was shaky. He had the worst +/- on the whole team this time, and you could just see it. In for part of the 4th and missed a wide open corner three set up by Donte. The numebrs are anemic here, but the game seriously looked even worse.
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Shaun Livingston (6'7") -- people were very high on Shaun a few years back, and ironically it was precisely because of his size. frankly I never saw it -- always seemed slow and soft to me, not gaining much beneift from his size but being hindered by it and not able to get to his spots. And then of course came the injuries, capped by one of the most horrific knee injuries you are ever going to see.

Greene ( B+ ) -- welcome back to the land of the living Donte, this time hopefully for good. Of course I was briefly worried it was gong to be a short stay, asd DOnte was suddenly summoned to the game to guard Gallinari and immediately left him at the three point line. I was hitting my head and saying why why why? Earn your minutes Donte. Followed with a foul, and given Westphal's trigger happiness this season that could have been it. But it wasn't, adn Donte settled in and began to do work. The defense tightened, and what do you know a 6'11" natural SF was actually the ebst chocie to gaurd a 6'11" natural PF. Who wouldathunk. Once Beno came in a few minutes later they began to work well together and we got energy and ball movement. Also began to harass Fields too. Nice offensive reb in the early 4th, and some good work inside throughout the quarter. Hustled back to break up a Knciks fastbreak in the late 4th. A lot of good glue stuff, moving the ball, grabbing boards, hustling on both sides and coming up with balls. Big offensvie follow of a missed Reke layup with under a minute to go kept us breathing. Missed the desperation 28 foot three to finish us in the last minute. This was the final positive from this game, and thank god after Westphal cretaed sucha stink bomb wiht this idiocy. Kid has talent, plays D, and can help. Now just as suddenly as he was exiled, he's a starter again. Bizarre, but its a move I agree with. Over/under on it lasting should be maybe 3 games the way this season has been coached.
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A pretty girl? How did that get in there? Hmm...
 
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I don't disagree with you that a few "promising" things happened tonight. However, it really goes to show how god-awful our team is. Another terrible team coming in off of a back to back and they still clobber us, shooting over 50%.

3 home losses to three of the worst teams in the NBA makes us probably the worst team in the entire league right now. It wouldn't surprise me to finish with 17 wins.
 
Another game another loss...and yet if you watched this game rather than just read the boxscores there were a lot of interesting and promising developments. Unfortunately by the time those developments come to fruition we will have entirely passed out of this soft part of our schedule and have to be getting better playing L.A. and Miami every night.

I'll dig back into my bag of tricks for another theme, btu I wish this team would just get over this and start winning some games. I'm going to be out of idea by Christmas.

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Sorry Brick maybe its my frustration but I really couldnt see too many positive things happening on the floor.
Seems like not winning any games turned me blind or you are simply a very optimistic person..
In german language there is the famous say:
"Among The Blind A One-Eyed Man Is King"
Seems to fit to the current situation.
 
Cousins looked very good today. Without the traveling calls his stat line would have looked even better. Donte Greene played and played well! Yay! Luther Head in the starting lineup with Tyreke might be worth trying for a couple more games. No more Thompson at SF please! Stoudamire is really bad at defense. When did Gallinari become Kobe Bryant? In relative terms, there was more positive than negative in this game though. From what I saw of it anyway.
 
When we took a 15 point lead or whatever it was, I knew we would eventually land on planet Earth again. What do you know, second quarter comes around and NY drops 40 shooting 50+ percent. I liked the glimpses of defense we saw played in the 4th, just unfortunate that we eventually bailed them out by committing silly fouls. Donte needs to get more playing time, we have nothing to lose. I hope coach realizes this sooner rather than later. Cousins looked very impressive in his minutes, Dalembert was a black hole on all fascets. JT didn't play too much after the first half. Cisco/Beno still struggling shooting and they are our best shooters, not saying much...but still. Casspi also was a deep black hole. It didn't help that he got limited minutes either.
 
Tonight I saw DMC being aggressive on both ends of the floor. His play kept Dally on the bench in the forth. Hat's off to Donte Greene too, who may have gained more PT by what he showed Westphal tonight. Tyreke Evans, Carl Landry and Luther Head also played well. The second quarter scoring by the Knicks was key. Still we fought back late in the third and into the forth. A much better effort by the Kings than the previous 5 games. Maybe they're turning a corner. They better be because we're going to start playing some of the better NBA teams. Wonder why Dalembert doesn't drive to the rim more often. Zero points and 1 block from our starting center is not acceptable. For my two cents if DMC keeps playing like he did tonight he'll start getting the majority of time at center.
 
I'm sorry but I agree with Brick's opening comments. This was the best I've seen them play in this last string. You better not skip over encouraging signs. I think the players and coaches will gain a little from play tonight. Sure would have been nice if we could have won one.
 
Sorry Brick maybe its my frustration but I really couldnt see too many positive things happening on the floor.
Seems like not winning any games turned me blind or you are simply a very optimistic person..
In german language there is the famous say:
"Among The Blind A One-Eyed Man Is King"
Seems to fit to the current situation.

You have no idea of the irony of your statement given what I have been accused of over the past few years on this board.
 
Cousins looked very good today. Without the traveling calls his stat line would have looked even better. Donte Greene played and played well! Yay! Luther Head in the starting lineup with Tyreke might be worth trying for a couple more games. No more Thompson at SF please! Stoudamire is really bad at defense. When did Gallinari become Kobe Bryant? In relative terms, there was more positive than negative in this game though. From what I saw of it anyway.

I'll second that. I thought it was Cousins' best game of the season so far. He really played with energy out there.
 
Tonight I saw DMC being aggressive on both ends of the floor. His play kept Dally on the bench in the forth. Hat's off to Donte Greene too, who may have gained more PT by what he showed Westphal tonight. Tyreke Evans, Carl Landry and Luther Head also played well. The second quarter scoring by the Knicks was key. Still we fought back late in the third and into the forth. A much better effort by the Kings than the previous 5 games. Maybe they're turning a corner. They better be because we're going to start playing some of the better NBA teams. Wonder why Dalembert doesn't drive to the rim more often. Zero points and 1 block from our starting center is not acceptable. For my two cents if DMC keeps playing like he did tonight he'll start getting the majority of time at center.

Maybe Westphal should bench three or four guys for about five games just to get them motivated like Greene...:p
 
Please tell me this means Donte gets to play basketball now.

Also...if our only wins came with Cousins starting...maybe we try that again? Just for kicks?
 
Beno still struggling shooting and they are our best shooters, not saying much...but still.
Beno shot 7 for 13 with a 3 and was 3 for 3 from the line.
If that's bad shooting, I really don't know who the Kings are going to find that satisfies this absurdly biased fanbase.

And The Knicks shooting 77% in the 2nd qtr will not happen many games this year. Most of those shots were contested just fine - the Knicks made LOTS of tough shots tonight. Again, the Kings ran into a team that played WAY above their heads.
Patience, Kings fans - this unluckiness won't last. When the Knicks shot 22% in the 1st, the Kings built a 15 pt lead. Once teams start playing to their norms, the Kings'll win with efforts like these (and hopefully some of the boneheaded game sections by Cisco, Head, Tyreke, JT, etc can be minimized/avoided).

DMC is FUN to watch - man, that guy's starting to get scary.
 
I'm growing tired of Cisco. He's one of our veteran players and he is just not producing for us on a consistent basis. I thought that when he started the season off really well it would finally be the end of me screaming at Cisco. I was wrong.

Someone needs to tell Tyreke that leaving your feet before passing is not a good idea. He's seeing guys and trying to get them the ball, which is good and shows his improvement in setting guys up. But his passes are still not good enough and guys are often having to stretch out to get the pass. We all know he's got the potential, but right now he still has to work on his passing. I don't know whether poor kickout passes are the reasons for our poor 3PT shooting.

I'm beginning to get a glimpse into what this team can do. It still is very raw and I think we may have to upgrade some pieces in the future just to make a push for the playoffs. It's unfortunate that I had fairly high personal expectations of the team coming into this season, expecting them to win at least 35 games. Now I'm not so sure they will hit 30. Still, we're young and things are getting a tiny bit better every game, so I guess we just have to be patient and pray and hope that the team finally clicks. On the effort end though, I haven't been too happy. We've played one of the fewest number of games and yet guys just look tired and out of energy, and we're a young team! We're supposed to be running effortlessly, playing with loads of energy. Tyreke on defence especially, just seems less interested than he was last season. If the team can play with more energy and stop making so many unforced turnovers I'll be pretty excited for the coming seasons, regardless of what our record is at the end of this one.
 
I'm growing tired of Cisco. He's one of our veteran players and he is just not producing for us on a consistent basis. I thought that when he started the season off really well it would finally be the end of me screaming at Cisco. I was wrong.

There is some truth to this, Cisco has been up and down. His 'leadership' has been there most of the season though. He still blocks shots for his size, and is probly our best deep shooter.

That being said, have we seen consistency from ANYONE who's height is in the 6'2-6'8 range aside from Reke?

The playing time between Head, Udrih, Cisco, Greene, and Casspi is impossible to predict, and all of there numbers are down because of it. Its hard to be consistent with inconsistent playing time. I feel like its more of a reason than excuse, but thats just me.

At some point, Talent wins out. Westphal did this at the beggining of last year too. He has to try out his new toys, because the new toys always look better when you get to see them for the first time. Like Sean May and Mason last year, Jackson and Head will eventually stay on the bench.

I would love to see him stick with the RIGHT guys for a while. I know alot of people want to see a consistent rotation, I do too, but it has to be the right one. No more JT at SF, no more Head at PG. It seems like Westphal has tried EVERYTHING but the obvious this season.

I'd like to see this lineup play

Reke
Garcia
Greene
Cousins
Dalembert

As starters. No below average defenders here ( you could make the argument for Cousins being slightly below average ). Gives us two shooters, a post player, Reke, and the shotblocker in Dally.

If we stick with the gameplan, there is no reason why this starting crew shouldnt be able to post up Reke on the point guards, and Cousins on whoever is guarding him. You have two good shooters to pass out of the post or double teams too in Cisco and Greene. Landry would be first off the bench for Dalembert, eventually get Beno in there for Cisco, Casspi for Greene, Thompson for Cousins ect... The bench packs as much offensive punch as the starters, with less defense which is far more acceptable when you have them playing against bench players.
 
Beno shot 7 for 13 with a 3 and was 3 for 3 from the line.
If that's bad shooting, I really don't know who the Kings are going to find that satisfies this absurdly biased fanbase.

And The Knicks shooting 77% in the 2nd qtr will not happen many games this year. Most of those shots were contested just fine - the Knicks made LOTS of tough shots tonight. Again, the Kings ran into a team that played WAY above their heads.
Patience, Kings fans - this unluckiness won't last. When the Knicks shot 22% in the 1st, the Kings built a 15 pt lead. Once teams start playing to their norms, the Kings'll win with efforts like these (and hopefully some of the boneheaded game sections by Cisco, Head, Tyreke, JT, etc can be minimized/avoided).

DMC is FUN to watch - man, that guy's starting to get scary.

He might of shot well in this game, I am talking about all the other games prior to last nights.
 
Cliche and all, but the officiating has been HORRIBLE. Plain awful. Gallinari jumping SIDEWAYS into players and getting fouls called FOR him? Cousins getting called for stupid touch fouls that other players get away with? Cousins called for travelling on a Dwayne Wade spin move fadeaway? I know the team is young but it seems like they are being targeted by the refs. Ugly pee poor officiating this whole season so far.
 
Since no one has said it yet, I will: Tyreke cost us this game. I'm sure when Brick finishes his grade, he'll mention it, but as we're roaring back into the game, on two straight possessions, Reke made horrible decisions that allowed the Knicks to take control back. First was a half-hearted floater/hook in the middle of the lane that looked like he didn't really want to shoot the ball, and the second was the jump pass that went straight to a defender. He's got to make better decisions at critical times in order for us to win close games.
 
Cliche and all, but the officiating has been HORRIBLE. Plain awful. Gallinari jumping SIDEWAYS into players and getting fouls called FOR him? Cousins getting called for stupid touch fouls that other players get away with? Cousins called for travelling on a Dwayne Wade spin move fadeaway? I know the team is young but it seems like they are being targeted by the refs. Ugly pee poor officiating this whole season so far.

This is status quo for NBA officiating at this point. I don't know if it's gotten worse in recent seasons or I'm just paying closer attention now, but I know exactly what you're talking about on all of these calls and they drive me crazy too. Especially the 'offensive player jumps into the defender to get free throws' move. I had to bite my tongue when Kevin Martin did it 4 or 5 times a game for our team. There needs to be a rule about contact initiated by the offensive player not being a defensive foul. That's the same thing as a flop as far as I'm concerned. If the defender bites on a pump fake so bad that they land on someone that's a foul. But jumping into them deliberately is not veteran basketball, it's stupid. Everyone can see the foul was initiated by the shooter not the defender. Just wait for them to pass and calmly drain the jumper.
 
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A pretty girl? How did that get in there? Hmm...

So is that the "downside" to the coach playing 11 players 10+ minutes? If so, I'll stop complaining about Westphal's rotations right now. In fact, let's see if he can figure out a way to give Antoine Wright some more time on Friday.
 
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