Grades v. Jazz 02/03

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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, at least when we lose we lose colorfully. :rolleyes: What a disastrous finish. Not sure I've ever seen 0-20 in a quarter before, let alone the 4th.

Artest ( A- ) -- almost felt sorry for Ron out there tonight. He was by so far our best player you would have thought you were watching the Kobes. And then disaster may have struck. Got off to the dynamic start flying around on both ends of the court, throwing down a monster jam on AK-47, getting his hands on a ton of balls that were not quite steals, but at least disruptions. Quieted down as the half went on, but stepped back up to hit the halftime buzzer beater in Kirilenko's face to put us up 6 at the break. In the third kept on hitting big shots to beat the buzzer and keep the Jazz at bay. But then everything fell apart for us, and the biggest blow may have come with Ron. Went up on a big drive and got hammered by the Tag/AK47 combo and went down clutching his right side/abdomen. Not to be deterred, came back a few seconds later for the repeat, and came down clutching the side again. Tried to stay out there, but was clearly laboring + in pain. Actually had to leave the court for the lockerroom but came back a minute or two later asking Rick to put him back in the game. Rick made the right call and played it safe. But this one scares me like the Bonzi injury. Ron Artest does not leave the court for a bruised pinky. If it was enough to chase him to the lockerroom...well, everybody keep as many appendages as you have crossed, because that could be the season right there. Good game for Ron, but was a lone warrior out there. It is appreciated. Now please don't be long-term injured, and please don't give up on the other 11 putzes we saddled you with tonight. They'll come around. I hope.
Thomas ( D ) -- grabbed some athletic offensive boards early, but that was about the extent of his contributions. Missed his open jumpers around the perimeter, and in the second half even the rebounding went away. Of course provided no interior defensive presence at all, and made some dumb turnovers.
Reef ( C ) -- got the start once again, and again turned in a minorly effective offensive performance, no rebounding, and no interior defense, as our starting center. Was having problems with Memo at the other end early, and outmuscled by Tag late. Peppered a shot in here and there, but never any runs. A bit better than his last couple of outings, but pretty ineffectual once again. Guess he can at least say that there were others who were worse.
Bonzi ( D- ) -- Bonzi continues to look all kinds of rusty. This time it was no fewer than 6 turnovers in the first half, and 9 for the game, almost all of the get stripped, fumble the ball variety. Also still completely unable to find a comfort zone with his shot, from anywhere in the field or the line. Just scrapping, scraping, powering inside, but the ball was going all over the place and rarely where he wanted it to. Still, as always, showed up on the boards and hustle categories, and that effort is all that saves him from the F here. Because it was it was an ineffective/ugly hustle game to say the least.
Bibby ( D- ) -- just still completely out of rhythm in the new offensive balance. Missed open shots and challenged shots, made a few plays with his passing, but ineffective without the ball in his hands again. Got a couple of passing lane steals, but otherwise unable to contain any of the Jazz All-NBDL PGs. Despite an ugly effort, there was a chance for Mike to redeem himself late. With Bonzi gone, Mike was clearly the guy we needed to be able to step up and bail us out, but he had nothing and was just too far gone. Did finish with 15pts, and his lone three at one point looked like it might be the backbreaker for the Jazz in the late third. But was not to be, and the game turned ugly soon therafter. Two bad nights in a row without Brad and the ball going elsewhere. Mike has to make some adjustments here because Ron needs a wingman badly -- assuming Ron is even going to be able to bounce back from the injury.
Garcia ( C+ ) -- was pretty invisible out there, missing his only open shot and doing little else offensively, but in the second quarter did come up with back to back blocks on the break for a brief highlight. For the second game in a row Rick went with Cisco and Artest as sort of a combo backup PG rather than going to Hart (is he healthy?) or Price, and got reasonable results. His second half stint got cut short as the wheels came off for us again (that phrase once more) and Rick panicked and threw the starters back onto the floor to try desperately to stop the bleeding.
Martin ( C+ ) -- scored well off the bench again in the second quarter, both inside and out. Watch his feet on the outside shot -- the former drivemaster has become a deadly spot up shooter if you let him stand out there with his feet set. But if you run at him and he has to move left or right, the percentage drops precipitously. 4th quarter was a bit of an adventure. Early on was involved in perhaps THE mometum switching play in the 4th when he went flying out on the break for a surefire layup, but was caught up to and blocked by a Flying Ostertag (watch out below!), which seemed to inspire Utah to go on a huge run. It may also have ben our last best chance to actually hit a FG that period. Ended up playing much of the rest of the way in place of the injured Artest, but was actually having a number of problmes wiht Tag in there. Not sure if he just forgot what he could do so quickly after last year or what, but the big guy blocked him again, deterred another drive and forced an ugly shot, generally got in Kevin's head. Finished up by taking advanatage of Tag being off the floor to attack Memo and get to the line in the last minute. Overall, an ok effort. But certainly not able to do anything to help save us late (nor would you really expect him to be the guy to do so).
Skinner ( C+ ) -- not much statistically, but we went on a tough defensive run with him in there in the first half. Just a larger, more physical presence than Reef, and outbattled Tag in the first half. Minutes in the second half were less effective as he came in in plae of Kenny (who got in foul trouble) and played alongside Reef. And with the offense in complete collapse, Rick went back to the better offensive forwards, to no avail of course.
Corliss ( INC ) -- almost forgot he played in the first half. Helped us during our strongest defensive stretch, and hit a jumper on a nice feed from Artest.

Adelman ( ) -- coming

Tag ( F ) -- Maybe we should title this one Hick Trek VIII -- The Revenge of Tag. The big galoot came back to bite us -- making perhaps the game turning block on Kevin in the early 4th and then playing big (really big) all the way down the stretch and combining with Kirilenko to lock down the lane. In Kingsland sucha performance would have automatically landed him a place on the pine for the next two weeks. Bad hick! Bad bad hick!
 
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Bibby...F...Our "leader" comes through in the clutch...End sarcasm...Lets the dynamic playmaker Milt Palacio have a good game, but that was to be expected...Couldn't do anything on offense...Then had a chance to step it up without Artest, but did absolutly nothing.

Bonzi...F...Nearly a triple double...8 points, 10 rebounds, 9 turnovers...Just an attrocious game for Bonzi in every single category except the hustle one...Unfortunatly the hustle doesnt help hm this time out.

Artest...B+...Definatly proves he is a "Tru Warier" tonight...Tries to play through pain, then tries to get back in to help HIS team win it...Yes, his team...Artest is going to be our leader, whether Bibby likes it or not...Anyways, shaky offense, which could still be rust, and everything else was the normal...4 steals, good defense...Keep it up Ron! And PLEASE don't be hurt badly..

Thomas...D...
6 points/seven rebounds...1-6 shooting...3 turnovers...Not helpful in the least, but not as hurtful as some others.

SAR...C...Able to play a nice little finesse game tonight, and be able to score on some nice little moves...Still can't rebound, though...Chipped in on defense with 2 blocks...

Martin...C-...So good yesterday, so mediocre today...Consitency, Kevin, it is your good freind.

Garcia...C+...Not alot of minutes for him tonight, and he didn't contirbute on offense, but did have 2 very nice blocks.

Skinner...C...Mediocre...Doesn't really make a case for more PT, with 4 points, 4 rebounds, no blocks...Just not good enough.

Corliss...C...Came in, did his thing, didnt come back.
 
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I give them an A+ for the fourth quarter play. It must be hard as hell to not make a basket. My hat is off to them.
 
well, we are a better team than the jazz. we showed that threw the first 3 qs. Then, somebody put a helmet on our basket and blindfolded our players. Then somebody shot Ron Artest in the side. And now somebody better shoot me.
 
I'm a Kings fan, but I'll be honest, it turned from frustrating to humorous at about the 2:30 mark in the 4th. I'll give an A+ to Adelman for not putting Artest back in though.
 
SLAB said:
Artest...B+...Definatly proves he is a "Tru Warier" tonight...Tries to play through pain, then tries to get back in to help HIS team win it...Yes, his team...Artest is going to be our leader, whether Bibby likes it or not...Anyways, shaky offense, which could still be rust, and everything else was the normal...4 steals, good defense...Keep it up Ron! And PLEASE don't be hurt badly..



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right on, if bibby played better and passed more to ron we might be celebrating a win right now
 
piksi said:
this is not a good time for that kind of stuff

yeh your right, maybe they jsut need more time to mesh as a team? no idea man
 
My requisite stupid comment. Placeholder. :confused:

OK. I got it.


I once received a "G" on a school paper.
 
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artestG said:
right on, if bibby played better and passed more to ron we might be celebrating a win right now

Interesting thing is that Peja "homers" used to say the exact same thing not too long ago.
 
vj9999 said:
Interesting thing is that Peja "homers" used to say the exact same thing not too long ago.

label me what you want its cool, fact is i want the kings to win and most of the peja left with peja ive been for this team since 2000 and was upset when webber went and now i finally fell we can be tough again
 
artestG said:
label me what you want its cool, fact is i want the kings to win and most of the peja left with peja ive been for this team since 2000 and was upset when webber went and now i finally fell we can be tough again

I didn't label you anything. I only labeled Peja's homers.
 
vj9999 said:
I didn't label you anything. I only labeled Peja's homers.

yeh well i didnt like them aswell but most of them went with him, if been a fan since 2000
 
C'mon, folks, it's quite simple, really...Kevin only bucketed 10 tonight...

The Curse of 14 continues...

Kings record when KMart scores 14 or more: 9-2

Kings record when KMart scores less than 14: 10-25

:cool:

 
1kingzfan said:
C'mon, folks, it's quite simple, really...Kevin only bucketed 10 tonight...

The Curse of 14 continues...

Kings record when KMart scores 14 or more:9-2

Kings record when KMart scores less than 14: 10-25

:cool:

Ahh! So it was Kevin's fault that we lost. ;) :eek: :p
 
Bricklayer said:
Well, at least when we lose we lose colorfully. :rolleyes: What a disastrous finish. Not sure I've ever seen 0-20 in a quarter before, let alone the 4th.

Oh, I remember a couple games where we didnt score at ALL in a qtr. The most memorable was back in 1987 against the Lakers...29-0 at the end of the first qtr.:( THAT was nausiating as hell(not that THIS game wasnt as bad, but glad I missed the great 4th qtr. we played).
 
Kings 0-8 when Miller scores less than 10. Course he didn't play tonight so that's totally irrelavent, but they flashed it on ESPN tonight.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
Oh, I remember a couple games where we didnt score at ALL in a qtr. The most memorable was back in 1987 against the Lakers...29-0 at the end of the first qtr.:( THAT was nausiating as hell(not that THIS game wasnt as bad, but glad I missed the great 4th qtr. we played).

Jerry Reynolds also said the last time it happened the coach got fired the next day. Wonder if Rick still has a job tomorrow! :cool:
 
That was a silly 4th quarter. I never would have thought the Kings would have a problem scoring. What a switch, they can get stops, but can't hit a thing. How much did not having Miller have to do with that?
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
Oh, I remember a couple games where we didnt score at ALL in a qtr. The most memorable was back in 1987 against the Lakers...29-0 at the end of the first qtr.:( THAT was nausiating as hell(not that THIS game wasnt as bad, but glad I missed the great 4th qtr. we played).

If, I think you are talking about the infamous 36-4 first quarter? We scored int hat one. In fact I think the NBA record for fewest points in a quarter is either 3 or 4. Not zero.

But of course when you are talking about totals that low, would obviously be no surprise if they were o-fers as well. Sure some national article will make a point of highlighting it vs. other all time bad quarters if its right up there.
 
Bricklayer said:
If, I think you are talking about the infamous 36-4 first quarter? We scored int hat one. In fact I think the NBA record for fewest points in a quarter is either 3 or 4. Not zero.

But of course when you are talking about totals that low, would obviously be no surprise if they were o-fers as well. Sure some national article will make a point of highlighting it vs. other all time bad quarters if its right up there.
gotcha, was just trying to jog my memory real quick about that game, and thought we went scoreless, maybe I remembered the score being 29-0 before we finally scored in the qtr...I think we only scored something like 29 for the half in that game. Anyways, that was then...Reggie Theus, Derek Smith(RIP) and Lasalle Thompson retired a long time ago...not sure what to think about our current team...hmmm...'Linda Blair-ish', kinda sounds like a good term, perhaps. Jeckel and Hyde?? Factor in injuries I guess, but still...
 
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Bibby gets Q Ron gets A great effort too bad he is the only one with it.
 
Martin: F-. Use your left hand on a lay-up to the left of the basket. You've made shooting like a middle-schooler work for you; you can't shoot layups like a middle schooler, though. That was the psychic turnaround, so Martin takes a lot of heat.

Wells: F-. We're the gold team, Bonzi.

Everyone else: F.

Shareef and Artest As for effort; Artest 'A' for self-control, though he's in the lowest remedial class.

That was painful.
 
SacTownKid said:
Jerry Reynolds also said the last time it happened the coach got fired the next day. Wonder if Rick still has a job tomorrow! :cool:
its the weekend, I doubt Geoff would do anything until regular business hours:D
 
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