[Grades] Grades v. Hornets 1/1/12

Predict the Kings record in the upcoming 3gm backtobacktoback.

  • 3-0

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • 2-1

    Votes: 10 17.9%
  • 1-2

    Votes: 30 53.6%
  • 0-3

    Votes: 6 10.7%
  • 0-4

    Votes: 6 10.7%

  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Unleash the guards!

Much needed reminder of just how good our starting guards can be if they are just allowed to be that good.


Salmons ( B- ) -- did most of his work early as a pretty clear 3rd option on a suddenly stripped down shot hierarchy, and I thought helped set the tone in this one by passing the ball pretty willingly, by John Salmons standards. Hit Evans with a nice backdoor pass, made anoher nice pass later to Hayes, but Hayes missed the layup. Guys felt like they could pass him the ball and have a reasonable chance of getting it back. Had a couple of hoops late in the half that were under control rather than 1 on 1 forces, inclduing a steal and breawkay dunk +1. Was less prominent after half after it really turned into the Reke and Marcus show, but performed this role (3rd gun) much more comfortably than he has played the roleplayer in the first week.

Hickson ( C- ) -- looked pretty active in the early going taking advantage of his opportunity, and came up with a block, but not much came of it. Without Cousins our little "bigs" were getting manhandled in there by Okafor and Kaman and we got crushed on the glass. Meanwhile Hickson, who has always been an offensively oriented player and part of the shots crunch ont his team, has really stepped back offensively the last couple of games, even though you would have expected him to get some post opportuities with Cousins gone. A little bit of good work late in the game wih some offensive boards and finsihes completed JJs night, but it was underwhelming.

Hayes ( C+ ) -- getting overwhelmed in there by Okafor in the early going, but was doing a good job helping to keep the ball distributed amongst the guards, and had a nice Princetonesque top of the key pass to cutting Jimmer. Was struggling to finish inside all night though and was outperformed by both of the Hornets' centers.

Thornton ( A- ) -- really didn't get off to the scorching start to this one. He was active and aggressive as always but he missed some easy looks set up by Reke and Salmons, and after crashing in amongst the trees inside for offensive rebounds, missed several follows as well, much to the delight of the pricks behind the New Orleans mikes. Was playing his gambling/one man trap defense up top, and came up with a number of steals out of it triggering fast breaks. After halftime he and Reke really began to take the game over, attackign the rim and causing havoc in the open court. Thornton never did get his 3pt game going, only hitting 1-5. But his aggression overwhelmed the sad Hornets backcourt (including the man that they still shockingly chose over him in Bellinelli) on the way to 25pts 6rebs and 5stls.

Evans ( A- ) -- started the game looking lively on both ends, attacking the hoop and helping out our beleagured "bigs" (who he can look in the eye) on the defensive glass. Shooting percentages weren't there in the first half, but the shots looked good. The jumpers were right online, and the finishes were just rolling off. Same thing was happening with the passes, as he and Salmons did a notably better job of finding teammtes this time out, but in the first half our guys were just not knocking down their shots. Reke could easily have finished this one with 8 assists wiht nothing more than guys, including top shooters like Thronton and Jimmer, just knocking down open threes. All of that set up a dynamic secodn half from he and Thornton, as rather than getting frustrated they just cranked it up another notch and all of a sudden all the things that had just been rolling off started going in. Really amde a run at the Hornets in the third, starting the quarter with a finish, a board, several nice looking (formwise = vast improvement) pullups, and adding a three for good measure. Fixed his FTs too. Nice penetration and spin dish to Salmons in the corner and had a beautiful crossover move on a drive from the corner before getting caught and havign to throw up a behind ghte head dlip that rolled out. Hit a desperation three after he had lost control of the ball and almsot run out the clock. And finished the game with a spectacular block on the break, that alas did not save the hoop as the Hornets got the ball back and finished anyway. Just very energetic and in control as he and Thornton combined for 52pts alone on 50% shooting. Night and day from the night before.

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Bench

Thompson ( B- ) -- the numbers here don't look great, but I thoguht Jason did a nice job of competing in there, in the first half in particular. He bodied up Kaman on defense, dropped a nice post move on him down the other way, and got a big dunk slashing down the lane wihtout the ball. Now in the end hsi shooting percentages dropped down to join our other bigs (JJ, Hayes and JT combined to shoot 6-22), but felt like JT helped us more than hurt.

Fredette ( C ) -- made some smart passes to set people up, but for much fo his time out there he was carrying over some of the struggles from the other night. Hit an early 1 on nobody 3pt shot, but then began to miss everything, including good looks for a shooter of his caliber. Forced a couple of shots too on anight when most of our guys had toned that down. Had a few ballhandling adventures again as peole are really testing him there. Thought he was left in there too long in the 4th with Reke chomping at the bit on the sidelines, but maybe Westphal was just trying to help the kid's confidence, and did not pull him until he finally got a couple of postive plays when Hayes and Thronton poked balls away, and Fredette lef the resulting breaks.

Outlaw ( C ) -- came in and immediately came up wtih a big blocked shot . Not strong enough to handle Landry in the post in his second stint and still not hitting his shots, but he looked more competent out there this time, and was able to be some factor defensively with his length.

Garcia ( B- ) -- nice block on the perimeter after finally getting in for the first time this season. Could see his wilingness to move the ball as soon as he entered,. But was way off on his early threes, and was making some dumb fous. Came back to hit back to back threes in the early 4th as we tried to buy time with Reke out. Not perfect, or brilliant, but a good roleplayer outing and some of what we have been missing in the ealry going. Veteran roleplayers = good if you've got the stars elsewhere.

Greene ( INC ) -- in of the last possession of the first half for defense

Thomas ( INC ) -- not much this time as we thankfully mostly stayed away from the twerpball stuff
 
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Great palette cleanser after the last game.

For those of you who thought our losses were bad, both the Grizzlies and Bobcats got blow out by 40 points tonight. 40 points.
 
I attended yesterday's loss to the Knicks and today's win over New Orleans. What a wonderful difference. Both were whole team efforts or lack of efforts. No one in particular stood out in either. Great team effort tonight. Also I watched the greatest free throw shooting team in the NBA tonight. If I winced tonight it was only once instead of constant pain the night before.
 
Now I'm totally confused as to which Kings team we have or will show up next game. Cousin not there is good? bad? unknown? arrgh! When he is good, he is very good. When he is immature he is bad. Does his good more than compensate for his bad?

My view vs. Hornets: Tyreke/Marcus "B+", Hayes and Hickson a "C", Salmons "B", JT "B", Jimmer "C", Outlaw "B-". Need Brick to lend some of his reality.....
 
Through games 2, 3, 4, and the first half of game 5. We looked like a bunch of zombies. The second half the boys woke up. Lets hope it lasts.
 
Unleash the guards!

Much needed reminder of just how good our starting guards can be if they are just allowed to be that good.


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Uh, sorry Brick but the only difference was they hit 50 % of their shots and made their free throws. Yes they had better looks, but they still turned the ball over more than they assisted. That's not a formula for consistancy.

Jerry seemed to be blaming the offense on Cousins during the broadcast with the bigs being out of the paint comments. So why not trade Cuz for Brad Miller. We can undo the trade from a few years ago.
 
Uh, sorry Brick but the only difference was they hit 50 % of their shots and made their free throws. Yes they had better looks, but they still turned the ball over more than they assisted. That's not a formula for consistancy.

Jerry seemed to be blaming the offense on Cousins during the broadcast with the bigs being out of the paint comments. So why not trade Cuz for Brad Miller. We can undo the trade from a few years ago.
That is why Jerry has never won a thing in this league! His basketall ideas are certainly not shared by those who have been there and done that!
 
Uh, sorry Brick but the only difference was they hit 50 % of their shots and made their free throws. Yes they had better looks, but they still turned the ball over more than they assisted. That's not a formula for consistancy.

Jerry seemed to be blaming the offense on Cousins during the broadcast with the bigs being out of the paint comments. So why not trade Cuz for Brad Miller. We can undo the trade from a few years ago.

The only blame Cousins gets on offense is the fact that he's shooting 32% at a position where 50% is the norm.
 
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happy we got a win to start off the new year. too bad some of the excitement got dampened by the cousins incident :(
 
Without Cousins we go 0-4 in 3 games. No doubt about it.

I can't imagine having these rebounding issues against Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol. That will be a disaster.
 
Knee contusion. MRI, but they are saying he should count his lucky stars it wasn't worse. Probably out for the Sac game though.

Conley out too. Memphis game is winable in this case even without Cousins (who I do think winds up playing)
 
Conley out too. Memphis game is winable in this case even without Cousins (who I do think winds up playing)

Of course Cousins will play. Westphal is notorious for throwing players under the bus in public if they dare even comment on his coaching. He did the same thing to Payton in Seattle and he played the next game. Cousins will play because he will "apologise" or so we will be told publicly.

Remember also Hawes got suspended indefinitely only to return the next game. Westphal has a history of going off half cocked when he loses the players which he has clearly done. Today we won because we had more talent. Tomorrow with Zebo and Conley out, we should win but all these wins are doing at the moment is masking a much bigger problem with the coach.
 
Memphis without Conley is basically as dysfunctional as the Kings. The Kings could win and the game could also end up being crazy ugly.
 
Of course Cousins will play. Westphal is notorious for throwing players under the bus in public if they dare even comment on his coaching. He did the same thing to Payton in Seattle and he played the next game. Cousins will play because he will "apologise" or so we will be told publicly.

Remember also Hawes got suspended indefinitely only to return the next game. Westphal has a history of going off half cocked when he loses the players which he has clearly done. Today we won because we had more talent. Tomorrow with Zebo and Conley out, we should win but all these wins are doing at the moment is masking a much bigger problem with the coach.

Unless their name is Tyreke?
 
Look what happened to NY at home against Toronto, lost 90-85. Josh Harrelson, the rookie who killed us and couldn't miss from 3 pt land, has 2 pts and 0-4 3-pointers. Did we just happen to catch NY at the wrong time?
 
Look what happened to NY at home against Toronto, lost 90-85. Josh Harrelson, the rookie who killed us and couldn't miss from 3 pt land, has 2 pts and 0-4 3-pointers. Did we just happen to catch NY at the wrong time?

No, we just played like *** against the Knicks.
 
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